Derrick Brooks 28

Does OJ even enter the conversation?

Agree on Jones

I got bored and built a list...some did fall before 1970, but only a year or two.

1 OJ Simpson, Terry Bradshaw, Lee Roy Selmon, Earl Campbell, John Elway, Bruce Smith, Troy Aikman, Orlando Pace, Peyton Manning

2 Lawrence Taylor, Eric Dickerson, Marshall Faulk

3 Anthony Munoz, Barry Sanders, Cortez Kennedy, Larry Fitzgerald

4 Bob Griese, Joe Greene, John Hannah, Walter Payton, Dan Hampton, Derrick Thomas, Jonathan Ogden

5 Deion Sanders, Junior Seau, LaDanian Tomlinson

6 Floyd Little, John Riggins, James Loften, Walter Jones

7 Champ Bailey, Adrian Peterson

8 Larry Csonka, Ronnie Lott, Willie Roaf

9 Brian Urlacher (wins by default)

10 Marcus Allen, Rod Woodson, Jerome Bettis

11 Michael Irvin, Ben Roethlisberger

12 Warren Sapp, Haloti Ngata

13 Fred Dryer, Kellen Winslow, Tony Gonzalez

14 Jim Kelly

15 Alan Page

16 Jerry Rice, Troy Polamalu

17 Gene Upshaw, Emmitt Smith

18 Art Monk

19 Roger Wehrli

20 Jack Youngblood

21 Lynn Swann, Randy Moss

22 Andre Rison (at least his gf burned down his house)

23 Ozzie Newsome

24 Ed Reed

25 Ted Washington, Tim ****ing Tebow (it was close, but I had to go with the guy who actually played)

26 Joe DeLamielleure, Ray Lewis

27 Dan Marino

28 Darrell Green, Derrick Brooks

29 Hakeem Nicks (who else?)

30 Reggie Wayne (who else?)

31 Nnamdi Asamugha (who else?)

32 Logan Mankins


The morel of the story is, take a DT at #12, a WR at #21 and kiss your ass goodbye if you are picking 22 and 25.

Overall your list isn't bad, but Riggins isn't even a top 10 RB all-time. Cant' see taking him over a top 2-3 tackle.


ROFL Oh my God no. Like I said, overall not bad, but this one is crazy.

True, I can't argue that fact...I'm just rolling with the fact Riggins was local to my hometown, and alot of people I know played HS against him. Jones gets the real nod, but Riggins is my slanted pick.


I just don't like Randy Moss. For as good as he is/was, I still consider him a waste of talent. If he had applied himself even remotely like Jerry Rice did, I can't imagine what he could have achieved.

I don't know, I'd probably draft Riggins because he's freaking Riggins!

I don't know what else I can do to educate people about the myth of Elway's 'greatness'. Manning is a Bronco and I now hate him, but he is a great quarterback. He's not a mediocre quarterback who built up stats by playing a long time and having the luxury of picking a playoff-caliber team for his whole career.

Any mod who wants to edit the OP with more additions is free to do so.

didn't read the whole post, but assuming somebody mentioned marcus allen at 10. Also, **** Peyton Manning.

Marshall Faulk revolutionized the modern day offense and the modern day running back... probably.

Also, did I mention **** Peyton Manning?

Marcus Allen.

Love randy moss. Mostly because he's honest.

Also, he's been on like half the top 10 offenses in the history of the league. Considering how many different QBs and systems he's done it with, it's not hard to say he was the reason why.

He was also one helluva catch from david tyree from being a superbowl champion.

Mostly he didn't take shit from anybody and didn't give a damn about what people thought of him. Personally, that gets my respect.

Also, this:

http://gifsoup.com/imager.php?id=2217882&t=o GIFSoup

Other possibilities: Lance Alworth (1962) and Willie Roaf (1993)

Lynn Swann performed in an Era where he was literally raped the whole way down the field. Definitely deserves the nod.

Ah yes, the famous "molestation-balls" era.

# 8 Willie Roaf 1993
#10 Marcus Allen 1982
#11 Wilbur Marshall 1984
#18 Art Monk 1980
#19 Otis Wilson 1980 or Joey Browner 1983
#20 Tamba Hali 2006

He was a Pro Bowler THREE times. THREE. He was All Pro ONCE. He played EIGHT years.


Let's compare him to a few other great WRs of their era, and then let's cut Moss's statistics IN HALF:

Career years:
Swann: 1974-82.
Pearson: 1974-84
Warfield: 1964-77
Carmichael: 1971-84
Moss: 1998-current

Receptions:
Swann: 336
Pearson: 489
Warfield: 427
Carmichael: 590
Moss (halved): 491

Yards:
Swann: 5,462
Pearson: 7,822
Warfield: 8,565
Carmichael: 8,985
Moss (halved): 7,646

TDs:
Swann: 51
Pearson: 48
Warfield: 85
Carmichael: 79
Moss (halved): 78

Pro Bowls:
Swann: 3
Pearson: 3
Warfield: 8
Carmichael: 1
Moss: 7

All Pro (first team):
Swann: 1
Pearson: 3
Warfield: 6
Carmichael: 4
Moss: 5


Swann wasn't even the best WR of his generation, and his stats don't even match up to Moss if you cut Moss's stats in half to account for the change in the game over the years. Moss has been part of the two highest scoring offenses in NFL history (1998 Vikes, 2007 Pats), and was part of the 15-1 1998 Vikes and 16-0 Patriots.

Yeah, Swann over Moss. Not so much.

I think he mailed it in in Oakland, and is a juvenile. But nobody puts up his stats by being either lazy or stupid. I think that stuff gets over-sold a bit. Yes, he can give up on games/plays, and that is a strike against him, but on balance and overall, he was a very, very intelligent football player who played great football for a very, very long time.

You're comparing his effort to Jerry Rice, which is a bit crazy. Rice's work ethic was maniacal -- like a Larry Bird or a Michael Jordan. Not everyone is built that way. Maybe it annoys you didn't work like a complete dog, but he didn't NEED TO to be unbelievably successful on the field.

:shrug: I don't love him, but neither do I hate him. He is (was, really) incredibly great as a WR though. It's inarguable.

I'm a diehard Chief, but #4 has to be either Walter Payton or Gale Sayers. #5 I'd give to Junior Seau. #6 is tough if you can't count Jim Brown. And one of the weakest spots is #12. I know it was before the merge, but one name I haven't seen on here is Joe Namath. 1965

#28 Darrell Green

Michael Irvin, Pick #11
Marcus Allen Pick #10
Darrell Green #28
Ozzie Newsome #23
Rod Woodson Pick #10
Ronnie Lott Pick #8
Jim Brown Pick #6

Actually #4 should be Reggie White. All do respect to DT. My favorite player of all time.

If Moss had Jerry Rice's work ethic he'd be so far beyond any WR that's ever played it wouldn't be funny.

All do respect DT, and give him all due respect, too.

Yeah, gotta be Reggie White. His production was insane.

Jon Ogden #4.... come on

Charles Woodson also at #4...