I think the bold is true of all college players, regardless of position.

My guess is that Vick goes to the team that hires Kelly.

I still think the idea of a veteran placeholder is sound. If the rook can win the job coming out of camp then great. It's sort of like the Seattle situation this season with Russell Wilson and Matt Flynn.

If the rook doesn't win, you have a QB that can run your system. Vick is a candidate but his recent injury history makes me doubt him. Alex Smith was playing well in SF, and can run a WCO, so he is a candidate too.

Of course, the veteran might not like it if we draft a rook #1 overall, which could impact the quality of veteran QB we'll attract.

Seeing how Reid sat McNabb for until he was ready to start. I don't see him starting any QB we draft, hopefully Geno. And no to Vick. He is broken. And a NO to any QB on this team right now.

If the price is right. Not Cassel contract and no draft picks.

Doubt it

NFL is a different beast now than it was in 1999. As my sig says, 6 of the 12 QBs in the playoffs are 1st or 2nd year players. Reid also said in a video posted tonight that he wasn't putting McNabb behind that offensive line. Assuming we sign Albert, we have a pretty solid Oline that is only going to get better as it grows up.

I don't want him here because his play has declined to a point he's not worth having around. He paid his debt to society and if he still played at a high level I'd have no problem with him here. I want to see winning football. I don't care if a guy is blowing lines off hookers asses and killing them afterwards as long as he performs at a high level and can contribute to winning games.

I will probably have my teeth kicked in for this, but I would rather have Alex Smith as our vet than Vick. Smith is suited for the WCO and is younger. That being said, I still want Geno drafted and Smith as his backup.

Smith will find someone to take him. As for him vs. Vick, I don't know. I don't want either of them and fully expect us to go after a QBOTF.

I can see us offering Smith the chance to compete for the starting position (on a side note: it really grated my skin to type those words, "Compete for the QB starting position." It was followed by a rush of relief that if that does happen, there are no favorites anymore). Maybe someone will offer him a starting gig, if that's the case; fine, adios.

If it all boils down to Vick is the only vet QB available, I would take him. The man has had a tough road and could probably share a thing or two about being humble and appreciating every day you're in the league to a rookie qb.

I just want them to start the guy they draft. The NFL is changing. Again, I defer to my signature. I don't really think Vick is worth all the trouble that would come with him from the media and fans. And that's taking out of the equation my opinion of him and what he did.

City's Animal Control Warden?

JFC, there is a search function around here and multiple threads where all these guys give their thoughts.
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I was asking a ? ... No need to be a smart ass. I'm very clear on the definition of a message board but thank you for your clarification! Ha!

He's a douche

If you bring in Alex Smith or Vick, you're lessening your window. We've talked over and over about building thru the draft, but I guess that means players other than the QB?



The best QB's in the league, were drafted by the teams they play for. Save for Manning, but come on.


You draft and develop your QB same as you do every other player.

The only way i'll be alright with bringing Vick in is if we get to drown him or electrocute him when he is done. **** him.

Brees says **** you!

All the self righteous Vick haters make me laugh

you down with torturing animals? **** you too.

Why do you need to be self righteous to hate Vick?

Vick has been dog shit lately... pun intended.

Where did I say anything about torturing animals?

lol

you are obviously ok with it, if you are ok with that piece of trash coming anywhere near your team. its like saying you don't have a problem with adam lanza, and then wondering why people think you are ok with shooting little kids.

Leonard Little killed a PERSON and didnt serve a prison sentence, Vick has paid for his crime, yes his crime disgusts me, but its paid for and he's bent over backwards to make up for it once he got out.

Climb down off your righteous highhorse.

And no, i dont want him here.

I said nothing about animals in my post. I don't know where the Adam Lanza blast came from but damn, why are you so angry?

He paid for his crimes, get over it.

You said you wanted Vick here, right?...

where did i say i was ok with little? i don't want that trash either. as far as vick goes, he may have paid his debt to society, but i'm not ready to forgive him. just like when a pedefile gets out of prison, you don't want him moving near your kids. it takes a sick individual to do the things vick did to another living creature.

Comparing the guy to a murderer and pedophile is reeruned. You are reeruned.

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i see shit like this, and i have a difficult time getting over it. he paid his debt to society, but that doesn't mean i have to forgive him.

I think it would be a distraction possibly. Instead of finally being able to focus on football and winning games we would have a new issue to deal with which is Vicks spotty past. He has made some stupid choices in life from dog fighting to trying to board a plane with weed in his water bottle. The list goes on and on. If someone can pay their debt to society and learn from their mistakes perhaps they can provide guidance on how to avoid going down that same path. Vick has a lot of experience as an NFL QB but he is not very durable. He is hit and miss and as of late he is more dog shit than hit. I fear bringing in Vick would not be a good idea but looking at the roster I fear it might happen. If Reid brings in Vick some fans will revolt starting the rift in the fan base direction. I hope it does not happen for that reason.

Nobody cares if you forgive him.

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and if you are ok with this cause the guy spent a couple years in prison, you are a heartless bastard.

I must be okay with murderers and pedophiles too, herp de derp.

i'm sorry, wasn't the thread about whether or not we wanted vick here? go **** yourself.

no, it just makes you a ****ing hypocrite.

It was about that, and then it became about a ****ing reerun who compares vick to adam lanza.

No, it doesn't.

No, there is nothing hypocritical about not giving a shit about what he did to some dogs.

no, i was pointing out that by supporting vick, he appeared to be ok with what he did. i'll give you it was a stretch.

I just flew back from kansas city missouri and spent quite a lot of time driving through and around the greater indepenence area. Doesn't surprise me people on this board want a mildly reeruned prison convict that sucks to be their next quarterback.

What's wrong with decorating your pitbull with pink puff paint?

Who?

seriously, the only argument taking place is why we don't want him.

I hope not. I want all the QB's gone from our current roster and all new ones not associated with Reid from his past. I want all new blood developed here and only here for this position.

How bout bring in Donovan McNabb to tutor Geno for a year

:facepalm:

Please no.

As usual, RoyIII delivers

Independence is an amazing town that has a negative view on Vick. We love dogs and refuse to forgive because we are short sighted and poorly educated.

If you loved dogs so much, you wouldn't ban an entire breed. As you pointed out though, you are poorly educated.

what other option would there be other than throwing geno out there in the 1st year, mcnabb is the one quarterback that had the most success under reid/

Wherever Vick goes he will be a backup competing for a starting position. Not a bad thing.

Keep trolling you dipshit. You are being much too obvious.

Lew, RoyIII isn't trolling.

Say hello to RoyIII, Lew.

****, you can't be serious.

I hope for his sake this is a mult account who just ****s with people.

No, not joking. Completely serious.

If you're still skeptical, do a search for RoyIII's posts.

too expensive. will want a long term deal. doesn't have the skills anymore.

Still nobody cares

He fucking sux, is old, been out of football a full year and is a head case. Besides he already said the only way he will play again is for a contender. What an arrogant shitty has been .

When Ray Lewis is inducted into the HOF, Vick will still be remembered as a guy who killed dogs.

You have to love how.. flexible, the morals of society are.

And don't take it the wrong way. I love dogs. They can both die in a fire.

Really? Huh I think I have taken up for you quite a bit on this site bud
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It's only a question that has been asked multiple times before. But by all means ask again. JFC
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Atlanta wasn't able to build an offense around Vick. Andy Reid couldn't build an offense around Vick either. Neither were abe to because Vick can't read defenses and lacks discipline.

One of the biggest flaws that I see, is that the moment Vick feels pressured he takes off running and destroys the play because when he starts running his recievers abandon their routes never giving the play that was called a chance to develop.

Vick's #7. Isn't that going to create a problem with our BACKUP quarterback?

this is why you shouldn't leave the forums. Love the attitude you bring. LMAO

Almost be worth keeping Casshole to force him to change his number

You shut your whore mouth.

#7 is going to be retired on the wall of shame.

Then ignore it and move on...

It's the new 13

No kc qb should ever have worn it anyway
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Unless they end up with Barkley in the second round...

STFU

**** that, let's make McNabb our OC.

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If Andy ****ing Dalton can step on the field with an Arena League OC in the AFCN and go to the playoffs as a rookie, then yes, Geno, Wilson, Barkley, Glennon, and Nassib could and probably will be starting.

It's incredible. After the last two drafts people suddenly went back to 1980's thinking. :shake::):shake: