I like manuel alot.

Dude that sounds all great . But do you really wanna take a chance on dieing or close to death before the chiefs when a sb?

ROFL

And to think I thought Petro had an epiphany.

Now he's talking about it being "likely" that MATT CASSEL is the starter next year.

And he'd be FINE with it.

Uhhh....that sometimes depends on the day and the topic. :)

I'm not in either camp honestly....not against the choice if that is what we do. I will say that it probably hurts more when your 1st rd draft pick busts and he is a QB.

I will say it has been a bit fun being in the center of all the traffic here in Indy....seen quite a few familiar faces. And contrary to popular belief people in the NFL don't just stand around and chat about players just anywhere in general.

I saw a couple of guys, who by their credentials i could tell were from the teams who were walking back to the hotel after some meetings....what they were chatting about was hilarious. Something you wouldn't think about football people talking about.

No, if the chiefs take a QB everyone will slobber all over it because of the need and cause Reid can coach them up. But for the time being its not the in thing to do because the masses don't see it that way.

That seals it. Soren Petro's the biggest troll in KC.

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Dimitroff: You can take a QB in this draft, place him in the right situation and have success. Some good prospects in this draft.

Another thought on death. As we all know reid is not a young man. So one as to think he did not take the chiefs job to screw around. He is surely wants to get back to a sb and win it in the very near future. That is most likely why he did not take the arizona job.

The only problem with having a QB become a bust is that you are truly building around the centerpiece of your team.

If your 1st pick is a lineman and he falters, people don't seem to get as wired as if your 1st round RB or QB falter.

Thanks for the advice, dumbshit. How many games did your team win without a QB? What was it, two? And what are you doing as a result of that now?

The fanbase would revolt if that happens.

Smart man.

You go back to the well and take another QB, because you aren't winning without one.

That's the risk that comes with the possibility of REWARD.

so missing on a draft pick is okay at QB but at any other position the GM should be fired?

or is it that fans give themselves a pass but break out the pitchforks for the GM?


:)

In situation A) the GM is at least giving the team a chance to win. In situation B) the team has no chance to win.

Don't really see why this is so difficult to understand.

I bet after reviewing Cassel tape that Andy would suit himself up at QB rather than make Matty the starter again.

No. ROFL

If you draft an IMPACTFUL player high, you inherently have higher risk and higher reward.

Fans like tackles because if they bust (and they do, at a higher rate than QBs actually) it doesn't hurt.

Of course, they completely ignore the fact that when those guys play at a high level, it often ALSO goes unnoticed because it has almost no impact on wins and losses.

Ideally, the Chiefs fall in love with a QB and take him #1 overall. If they don't, the second best option IMO is to take him at #34.

What would really be disheartening to me, in this particular draft, is for the Chiefs to pass on a QB #1 overall, then trade up into the first round to draft a QB. At that point, you're wasting precious resources that can be used for other areas of need (S, ILB, CB, WR, etc.).

If a guy is good enough at #20, take him at #1. Don't waste a #2 and #4 to get him at 20. That's just plain dumb.

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petro tries so hard to be the devil's advocate that he just ends up stupid...

he's the pioli of the radio

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I couldn't really find the right thread to put this in....but it made me chuckle...for more than a few reasons..... thought I'd share....

'MERKA!

Scott ***** and Mike Tannenbaum are solid people and football men and I know they'll both be back working in the league soon enough. But I do find it curious that both recently fired general managers, who had their high-profile personnel swings and misses in recent years, are immediately put on television and asked to assess and predict the personnel moves that each and every NFL team needs to make this offseason.

And nobody even bats an eye, because that's how the system works. Lose your football job because of shoddy personnel decision making, and immediately become a football expert who picks apart the personnel decision making of employed general managers. Is this a great country, or what?

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl...3_a6&eref=sihp

I brought this exact same point up a few days ago. Its ridiculous for me to even take Piioli seriously.

Dane's on board now.

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See, this is where I'm at. I totally agree with this.


Especially when our needs (CB, WR, ILB, S) are pretty stacked in this draft.

yeah....says Cleveland

Pioli shows why he was shit canned. **** that douche.

The Chiefs ex-GM just flat out said that Geno Smith isn't worth the 1st pick and he would have to wait and see who else is available other than Smith during selection between 11-20.

The way Pioli is talking, I'm not sure his plan wasn't to role with Cassel again.

Of course it was.

Why do you think he repeatedly told Reid to not get locked in on the QB. He did everything except mention Cassel by name...

I can't believe the NFLN has this guy on. It's actually pretty embarrassing.

Pretty much a "don't get locked in, you already have one" kinda thing.

Translation: He wouldnt pick him at all.

Pioli doesnt' think Geno is worth the first overall pick, but he thinks Matt Cassel is a starting Qb in the NFL.


Something is off a little there.

Its pretty sad how scott hugs matts nuts.

He even said something like "with Reid there, the quarterbacks are gonna be better, regardless if the current guys are still there, or not.

Pioli was gonna let Bowe AND Albert walk, draft Joeckel and start Cassel again...maybe taking a qb in round 3 or 4.

It's clear as day that that is why Reid decided to have Clark fire him and bring in Dorsey.

I am at the point that I'm thinking about making a prop bet that we take Geno.

he was pretty definitive about it.

He basically implied that Smith was a project type guy who could eventually become a decent NFL player ie nothing great.

at least that's the way i heard his comments

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Part of me wonders if Cassel and Jackson sent Pioli a commission/finders fee check

I'm CERTAIN it is NOT.

it's mind bending, isn't it


he was sent from the future to destroy the Chiefs forever and was a year away from doing it....

You're the douche**** in elementary school, who after listening to the teacher say "Treat others as you want to be treated" you ask "What if we like being punched in the face?"

They don't think Ryan Nassib or EJ Manuel is the best QB. **** you.

I swear it seems like all these A-holes have been hanging out practicing this spiel together. I guess that way when Geno Smith goes 1st overall they can make a big presentation about it. 'What a draft day shocker!'

No, if it were any other team picking 1st, then a qb would be on the list.

Wow, SNR is cranky today...

I'm sick of RunKC Blackbobbing shit up around here. His "what if a team knows for sure that the QB will be available" garbage has got to stop.

Speaking of cranky, anyone seen Rauch today?

He hasn't gone to the hospital with malnutrition has he?

Hes making more money now lol

Oh very mature idiot ripping someone for a view that is not yours. Your so ****in stupid! I say yes E.J. is better than geno anyday . So put that in your pipe and smoke it asshole.

And snr . How the **** do you know what they are thinking? STFU

Reid and Dorsey haven't had careers in the NFL as long as they have by picking out Manuels and Nassibs as the best in their class.

I don't know what they're thinking, but I can infer they're not completely inept at their jobs based on what they've done.

By the same token, I can point to the fact that they are still alive as evidence that they aren't dumb enough to lick broken glass on the sidewalk or stick their dicks in light sockets.

1. You're just saying that because you're a mindless fool, angry at all the normal people who point and laugh at you every day.

2. If I'm wrong and you DO actually believe that, how does it taste to lick broken glass on the sidewalk? I've never tried it myself.

Depends on what the cost is to move up at the end of the first to grab that qb

ROFL

And he's totally right. Tons and tons of QB's around the same talent level. Only a fool would draft a QB with a #1 pick when you can get one just as good, maybe better in the second round. You play the hand you are given, and in this case, this draft sucks donkey balls for QBs. It's just the Chiefs luck, deal with it or whine about it & convince yourself that Geno Smith is the next Peyton Manning. I'd prefer to just deal with it logically and make the best choices on value that you can.

It's going to cost at least one draft pick too much.

That's an opinion.

And this is a myth.

When the smoke clears, 1 or 2 QBs will be consensus top 10 picks and this whole ridiculous conversation will be over.

The smartest people in the world think the guy that takes the 3rd, 4th or 5th option will end up with the best.

The #1 pick in the NFL draft is used to take the best QB available. Unless your coach and GM don't want to keep their jobs, like Miami and Houston.

The #2 pick is where one goes after the best player available.

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Exactly. I've been beating this drum for the last month, at least.

No trades back into the first. If they do this, Reid and Dorsey show that they are truly dumb as ****, and we're going to need to fall ass backwards into success. In other words, we'll need to hope for The Patriot Way.

I'm not going to lie. I'd blow a nut in that horse

Polian just said Landry Jones was his guy. ROFL.

HOW DO U NO HES NOT TEH BEST QB WERES UR TEAM HUH GET OUT MOMS BASSMENT AND GET A JOB

You know those dumps you take that feel like a lead brick and have that KER-PLUNK noise when it hits the water? That's really just Polian's crediblility going to way of the Do-Do bird.

Former GB and KC scout provides an interesting tidbit on scouting and coaches/GMs:

Marc Lillibridge: When I look at it as a scout, it started with a medical and that's what you're really hoping to find out. When you're writing your report and you say you love a player, if you're a good scout, you know what range he's in. If you know he's a 4.5 guy and he does better than that, it should solidify it. If a guy is a 4.6, you can tell it on film. As a scout, you're there to reconfirm, but also it helps when you're in meetings with coaches. The coaches haven't seen those players because they're worried about keeping their job or getting a new job. Then the GM's, up until December, haven't watched a lot of film – unless you're Ted Thompson.

It's more to confirm the grade you have. Then there are teams like the Atlanta Falcons, for example, that have their board set before the Combine. They may make some tweaks here or there, but they believe in their scouts. The teams that draft well trust their scouts and believe in their judgment. The Combine is just there to solidify or kill a guy if you don't think he's good. For us, when I was scouting, it didn't change much. It confirmed things and gave us hard numbers. If it makes or breaks your draft as a scout, you're probably not going to be in the business for very long or with that team.

Right now, isn't Dorsey working with a lot of the scouts that were here under Pioli?

Landry Jones will make a great coach/combine prep guy. As long as there is no pass rush he looks great. Add a rush and Jones makes Matt Cassel look like Tarkenton/Rothlesberger.

Yeah, they kept the scouts from the Pioli regime.

So the "rules", so to speak, only loosely apply to the Chiefs. At least for this first draft...

Yeah, but it shouldn't be an excuse.

Why is everyone so concerned about what the Chiefs are going to do? Seriously. Like worry about your own damn team.

There is not one single other QB in this draft that has Geno's combo of arm strength, accuracy and mobility. Not to mention intangibles.

Barkley? Arm sucks, stone feet.
Glennon? Accuracy highly questionable, even less mobile than Barkley.
Wilson? Seems to have the best combo other than Geno. Still not at his level.

Manuel? Bray? Nassib? Dysert? Jones? Not even in the picture. One of these guys probably falls to the 4th.

That's not what I'm saying.

Look at all that stuff Lillibridge said. It basically doesn't apply to the Chiefs, because Dorsey and Reid have never worked with these scouts before.

Bray has the best arm strength but lacks in accuracy and mobility. At least give him some due credit.

So why the **** do you want a QB that has accuracy problems ? So you can continue suck ???

Is it probable that A.R. trades down and drafts two QB's in rds1 & 2?

It isn't probable that they trade down at all. Nobody wants our pick.

Far too many people are against the Chiefs taking a QB #1.
It's so worrisome.

Hopefully the Chiefs adopt an "us against the world" mentality then.

Not only do they get the QB but they come out of it with a chip on their shoulder and something to prove.