No thanks.

I think it's going to come down to 3 options.

1. Trade down.
2. QB (Geno Smith, Matt Barkley)
3. Sharrif Floyd

I don't get the Floyd hype. He isn't as athletic as Richardson. He isn't as strong. He doesn't have as good a motor as Richardson, and he wasn't as impactful playing against the same teams. Why is Floyd being considered as a #1 pick?

I agree.

Those are the 3 most realistic options.

How many LT's are available in FA and in the draft? ROFL

If they sign someone like Canty and get Jackson to rework his deal.....it basically comes down to trade down or QB.

I live here, there's only like half a dozen Jaguar fans around here. There is a Jags message board but it is probably like the Chiefs version of WPI. It's basically a ghost town and only their "true fans" post there.

You don't think certain promises were made to Alex Smith?

You don't think he wouldn't accept a trade if this is gonna be another Kaepernick like situation?

You don't think having this situation creates a powder keg in the locker room, and a split at the first two or three game losung streak?

No you don't think these. That's because you don't think. THAT's because,... oh that's right....you're Detoxing....

Dee Miliner

Has it been confirmed from a legit source that Andy Reid likes Geno?

I get the feeling he isn't too fond of any qb in the draft which is why they traded for smith to fill in for this year and possibly next. I am guessing they let Jackson and Dorsey go and draft Floyd.

Alex didnt even know who he was traded to until the deal was completed.

Not sure why some completely disregard CB. It's a GLARING need, it's a valuable position, and there's a guy at the position who's a top 5 player in the class. It might not be sexy, but this whole draft is butt ugly.

I think they trade a few picks down and take Richardson or Millner.

Nick Foles will wear a Chiefs uniform. So I guess they trade down to #4 and take the CB and Foles and some change.

If Alex Smith cant beat Geno or Barkley at a QB competition he has no right to be mad. Gladhanding Cassel the starting job was a terrible mistake that should never be repeated.

The only trouble with corner is no corner has ever went #1 overall. I agree Milner makes the most sense outside of the two quarterbacks.

I'll bet you....but right or wrong, I'm not gonna say that...

I just think you are incorrect.

We'll probably pick up a CB in FA.

This is honestly what I'm thinking. This is why I came around to Alex. I just waited with baited breath until today to see how Bowe/Albert would play out. It played out how I hoped. Geno Smith is going to be a Chief.

Sean Smith? Meh.

Ziggy was just learning to play football and progressed every year. It really isn't like Gholston at all. Ziggy could be brought in as a situation pass rusher behind Hali while he learned and then replace Hali in a couple of years (Hali is no spring chicken).

We need a .GIF-laden thread breaking down Floyd. Is he all he's cracked up to be or what? Late riser is a concern. He was a good player in college, but call him a first overall draft pick in November and you get laughed off the board.

Based on need and BPA it has to be Miliner. Has a DB ever gone no.1 though?

I was hoping for Grimes but I think Atlanta re-signs him now since they released Dunta Robinson.

This is the other scenario I could see playing out. Personally, I won't cry about it. Foles is young and 1 year into the league. If Andy really thinks something is there, so be it. However, did Andy really draft that kid? I know he was losing his power in those final years. Time will tell.

Never a corner. A safety went first overall in 1956 (IIRC).

No he's not.

Neither is Star.

in order

1. trade down.
2. If not able to trade down, Geno


BTW, it's not what I'd do; I'd take Geno. It's what I think they'll do/attempt to do.

Doesnt Reid consider CB as one of the most important positions? QB, OT, Passrusher and CB

I'm sure Dorsey and Reid agree with you. But their own choice is different in their expertise. Human nature. Hopefully theirs is a more astute one than Piolli's.

Never said he was.

I think it all depends on the health of Jason Peters. If Philly doesn't feel comfortable with him, I could see them wanting whichever left tackle Chip Kelly wants.

I don't think he'll take the risk of waiting until four, so the Chiefs to move down to four (which is even trade out of if they want even more picks) and Foles, who could be the backup for the foreseeable future.

But who knows? Maybe they sign Matt Moore next week to back up Smith. Everything is pure speculation at this point.

Outside of the QBs, Millner would be.

There are reports that the Browns want Moore.

ROFL

Says the guy with the reputation of the worst football takes on the forum.....

You honestly think Alex Smith has a say in the matter? No, sorry, i don't think any "promises" were made to Alex Smith. That is reeruned.

You honestly think players have input on who the team drafts? ROFL

Powder keg....ROFL good one.

Im sure adding Geno Smith, an unproven rookie, would ignite instant controversy in the locker room with a new QB and new HC :rolleyes:

I won't be surprised even a little if Joekel is still the pick at #1. By tagging Albert, the chiefs have upped the value of the number one pick simply because we don't "need" it anymore, same goes for Alex Smith. So, it also wouldn't shock me if they trade down, even if they get a little less to do so, and take a guy like Miliner or the receiver from Ten.

I think they will restructure Tyson Jacksons contract and with Poe, Powe, T Jackson, Pituitary boy, as the d line, they would be fine with that going into the draft, where they can then pick up depth later. Particularly if they are able to trade down for more picks.

Sorry. Guess I misunderstood this earlier in the thread.

Interesting.

Dorsey has already stated publicly that the #1 overall pick is up for grabs. "Come and get it" were his exact words.

I think the Chiefs will have plenty of options come draft day to move around.

Lets face it CB is our weakest spot. And yes that includes QB. Miliner is a sure thing as a prospect as well.

"My friend Detoxing and I think you are a moron, Frankie."

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Noooooooo!!!

The question was who will the Chiefs take. I said Star Lotuleilei and never implied that he was the best player available. If you assume I believe Dorsey will absolutely take the "BPA", I see how you could arrive at that assumption. I don't think he will though.

has to be Joeckel, Millner or a trade. Nothing else makes logical sense.

How exactly does Joeckel make sense?

How does Joeckel make any more sense than a QB, LB or DL?

And a few days ago

If the reason that we don't take Miliner is because we are picking #1 that's absurd. The reason positions like CB (or OG, C, & Safeties) haven't historically been drafted in the top 5 is $$$$$. When we picked Berry we had to immediately make him a top 5 paid Safety before he ever played a snap.

With the new CBA this has now changed. Lower rookie contracts open up teams to really take BPA regardless of position because you dont have to pay a rookie guard or CB top 5 money @ his position before he steps on the field.

If the KC scouts view Miliner as one of the top 5 players in this draft, we should SERIOUSLY consider him @ #1 simply due to the glaring hole we have at CB.

a QB does.

Wut? Joeckel makes the least logical sense...

Agree. I just don't think Floyd fits as well in the 3-4 so I would say.

1. Tradedown
2. Geno
3. Star

Neither does Star.

IDIOT, the media is full of report about how the 49ers want to do right by AS by allowing him to approve where he wants to go in a trade. This was built up as a reward and respect for how he handled himself in the Kaepernick thing. I know your wet dreams about Geno have compromised your judgement, but there are other alternatives to your one track thinking.

Star absolutely can play 3-4 DE. Look at all the postion rankings and he is #1 on all of them....or at least was. Some may have moved him down with the heart situation. I'm assuming it gets cleared soon.

you want to pick up a 3-4 end that high?

One track thinking?

I've entertained all options in this thread, stating repeatedly that all options are on the table. God damn you are dumb.

You're the idiot who thinks that a PLAYER has any say at all on who the team will draft. And it's been reported that Alex didn't even know he was being traded until the story broke.....so much for that idea, eh?

top 3 picks should only be one of the following:

QB
WR
Pass Rusher
LT

Star could play anywhere up front. Very versatile.

I'm sorry but I don't see how this reasoning works. If they don't need it anymore and the other teams know it, doesn't that devalue the pick?

When have players ever dictated where they go in a trade without themselves being in a position of leverage. I bet if AS were to favor Arizona they would tell him to **** off even if they cod get a great deal for him.

Hey Detox! I get to be Lloyd Christmas.

Especially one with no pass rush. Tyson Jackson all over again.

Uhm, no?

It means that the Chiefs are now available to pick any player they want, including whichever player that is most coveted. We are no longer locked into LT, which if anything, minimized the value of the pick.

Cleared? Perhaps. But free of worry? No. Even if it just happened because of the heightened stress and pressure of the combine and he has no real history or identifiable condition, that is still certainly something to be weary of and is more than enough to prevent him from going #1 overall.

Not really...but I think it is the most likely thing to happen.

We just jumped on the Alex Smith bankwagon. We better get a stud D built very, very quickly.

Star, Poe, Jackson
Houston, Johnson, ???, Tamba
Flowers, FA CB, Berry FA S

Has the making of a very, very good D.

How so?

:facepalm:

You didn't read my post and replied. Par for the course.

ROFL

but, defense no longer wins Championships.

it just prolongs the inevitable.

I'm just calling it like I see it. If I were running the show we would not be trading a 2nd round pick for Alex Smith.

I don't agree with this either.

San Fran and Baltimore have pretty damn good defenses.

oh, I know. no big deal i know it's your opinion etc.
I understand that etc.

I just think the top 3 is a place where you spend wisely for players than can effect the outcome of a game on a single play etc.

I'm still hoping for Geno, but it is a dream IMO.

Jesus, people have gone from rationalizing the idiotic alex smith move to rationalizing starfish lollypop with the #1.

Wait, am I on the right board?

Why dont we trade back in the 1st and pick up picks, trade back again in the 1st pick up picks and then pick up barkley OR trade back again and pick up more picks and the pick up barkley? Only problem is i doubt barkley falls out of the top 10 ):

Dee Milliner or trade down.

Barkley will be available in the top 10 of the 2nd round.

S.F. and Baltimore aren't exactly offensive juggernauts. They were built on Defense.

Then we need to trade back and back and pick up barkley. why waiste a pick on geno when we could get a crap more picks and get barkley?

Because Barkely SUCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Give me Tebow over Barkely.