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ShortRoundChief 03-05-2013 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9468496)
It will piss people off but i bet we see Alex Smith get a new deal. 9.7m this year for Smith is high.

It will only piss me off if they do it like they did Cassels. There was no earthly reason to give that guy a long term deal like they did when he was playing under the franchise tag.

hometeam 03-05-2013 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9468496)
It will piss people off but i bet we see Alex Smith get a new deal. 9.7m this year for Smith is high.

Agreed. There is no way Smith plays on his current deal, they will extend him and lower his cap number for this year accordingly.

Bad news for Geno :/

Still think we should have cut Jackson. Though, I can see this being an OK move if FA DE's where both unimpressive to the FO, and expensive.

ShortRoundChief 03-05-2013 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 9468170)
The new GM is having to clean up a lot of Fat Scott's mess. Fixing the Carr/Routt mess may be costly, but we have to do something. Jalil Brown ain't gonna cut it. I'm also worried about Kendrick Lewis. He's injury prone and misses a lot of tackles. We really need a new corner and safety. Hartman may be OK, but I think we can do better.

I doubt we will do to much more with safety.

Ace Gunner 03-05-2013 07:21 PM

they'll bring in CB's & safeties too I imagine. As it's been said many times on this board the DB's for this team are short. Berry is the only one left with any ranginess since Carr was cut. Daniels, but he's old now. Lewis is mediocre as far as close range goes.

BossChief 03-05-2013 07:48 PM

I wonder if they have interest in Charles Woodson on a 1 year deal.

They need leaders.

notorious 03-05-2013 08:22 PM

Even Hicks is saying "WTF?!"

RealSNR 03-05-2013 08:46 PM

The cap hit we would take from cutting him is essentially what we're paying to keep him here.

In the bizzaro world of the NFL salary cap, it's like we're getting him to play one more year for free.

Dorsey was a pimp on this one. Keep'em coming man!

RunKC 03-05-2013 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9468760)
I wonder if they have interest in Charles Woodson on a 1 year deal.

They need leaders.

I think that's why they brought Al Harris in.

Idk if Woodson can even play anymore? Seems like he would be a liability at his age.

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-05-2013 08:52 PM

KANSAS CITY CHIEFS

Prominent free agents: LT Branden Albert (franchise tag), WR Steve Breaston (released), DL Glenn Dorsey, S Abram Elam, RB Peyton Hillis, OL Russ Hochstein, DE Ropati Pitoitua, QB Brady Quinn, ILB Brandon Siler, DT Shaun Smith.

Issues: After tying for the league's worst record in 2012 (2-14), Kansas City has had quite an eventful offseason. The hiring of head coach Andy Reid in January was followed by last month's news that quarterback Alex Smith will be acquired from the San Francisco 49ers. Then came Monday's flurry of moves — wideout Dwayne Bowe and Pro Bowl punter Dustin Colquitt signed five-year deals while Albert was tagged. If Smith manages to stabilize the passing game, a team that boasted six Pro Bowlers in 2012 could easily be among the contenders again in 2013.

Our advice: As far as free agency goes, Reid and new GM John Dorsey have put most of the hay in the barn already. The expected release of quarterback Matt Cassel might allow for more options, though. A veteran inside runner to pair with Pro Bowler Jamaal Charles would be something to ponder, and Cedric Benson could be the ideal guy to reprise the role formerly filled by Thomas Jones and Hillis (who didn't do it nearly as well in 2012). New defensive coordinator Bob Sutton might also want to lobby some of his former charges with the New York Jets, namely run-stopping end Mike DeVito and linebacker Bart Scott, who could give the unit a little extra attitude. Either player should be available for the right price. Otherwise, it's time to figure out whom to spend the No. 1 draft pick on ... or where to send it in a trade.

Mecca 03-05-2013 08:56 PM

Reid has never had the big back idea. He always has backups similar to the starters.

O.city 03-05-2013 11:22 PM

So with this restructuring, whats thw word on Casselitis?

BossChief 03-06-2013 12:01 AM

Alex Cassel will NEVER leave this team. They just act like his name changes every few years.

penbrook 03-06-2013 12:34 AM

But Cassell is a nice guy.

bowener 03-06-2013 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 9469012)
Reid has never had the big back idea. He always has backups similar to the starters.

Reggie Bush if he comes cheap enough?

mcaj22 03-06-2013 01:10 AM

isnt cedric benson ****ing terrible? why would we want him

okcchief 03-06-2013 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9468496)
It will piss people off but i bet we see Alex Smith get a new deal. 9.7m this year for Smith is high.

It would piss people off because it would be stupid. Let him earn it. If he wants a new contract without earning it we were stupid to make the trade.

okcchief 03-06-2013 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9468138)
If Smith wants that kind of money, why didn't we just pay Brandon Carr again?

Because our former GM was a ****ing idiot.

Chiefs=Champions 03-06-2013 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 9469012)
Reid has never had the big back idea. He always has backups similar to the starters.

Wasnt Deuce a 'big back'?

Bump 03-06-2013 01:29 AM

he was making such strides. I called his name at least 4 times in the last 5 games.

ArmyChief 03-06-2013 01:31 AM

Good resign. He started to come along as Poe was coming along at the end of the year. With the new gap scheme hey may work out just yet and not be considered a bust.

saphojunkie 03-06-2013 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9468998)
KANSAS CITY CHIEFS

Prominent free agents: LT Branden Albert (franchise tag), WR Steve Breaston (released), DL Glenn Dorsey, S Abram Elam, RB Peyton Hillis, OL Russ Hochstein, DE Ropati Pitoitua, QB Brady Quinn, ILB Brandon Siler, DT Shaun Smith.

Issues: After tying for the league's worst record in 2012 (2-14), Kansas City has had quite an eventful offseason. The hiring of head coach Andy Reid in January was followed by last month's news that quarterback Alex Smith will be acquired from the San Francisco 49ers. Then came Monday's flurry of moves — wideout Dwayne Bowe and Pro Bowl punter Dustin Colquitt signed five-year deals while Albert was tagged. If Smith manages to stabilize the passing game, a team that boasted six Pro Bowlers in 2012 could easily be among the contenders again in 2013.

Our advice: As far as free agency goes, Reid and new GM John Dorsey have put most of the hay in the barn already. The expected release of quarterback Matt Cassel might allow for more options, though. A veteran inside runner to pair with Pro Bowler Jamaal Charles would be something to ponder, and Cedric Benson could be the ideal guy to reprise the role formerly filled by Thomas Jones and Hillis (who didn't do it nearly as well in 2012). New defensive coordinator Bob Sutton might also want to lobby some of his former charges with the New York Jets, namely run-stopping end Mike DeVito and linebacker Bart Scott, who could give the unit a little extra attitude. Either player should be available for the right price. Otherwise, it's time to figure out whom to spend the No. 1 draft pick on ... or where to send it in a trade.

You get no credit for whom when you end your sentence with a preposition.

HIChief 03-06-2013 02:02 AM

This is just plain funny
 
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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 9467895)
We can say this much, so far:

Just about every credible rumor that's surfaced since Reid/Dorsey took over has turned out to be true.

Hmmm, "credible rumor"? Now there's an oximoron. How would one know whether a rumor is credible until it actually came to pass?ROFL

mcaj22 03-06-2013 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 9469012)
Reid has never had the big back idea. He always has backups similar to the starters.

hes always tried to do Small Fast Guy with good catching hands/Big Back combo

Micjones 03-06-2013 02:24 AM

Great work on the part of John Dorsey.
Time to clear some more room by cutting Cassel.

mikey23545 03-06-2013 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9469728)
You get no credit for whom when you end your sentence with a preposition.

From Oxforddictionaries.com:

To sum up, the deferring of prepositions sounds perfectly natural and is part of standard English. Once you start moving the prepositions to their supposed ‘correct’ positions you find yourself with very stilted or even impossible sentences. Well-established and famous writers over the years, such as George Orwell, Anthony Burgess, and Julian Barnes, have been blithely stranding their prepositions to no ill effect: please feel free to go and do likewise!


Finally, a prepositional joke, courtesy of reddit.com:

A snobbish English teacher was sitting in an Atlanta airport coffee shop waiting for her flight back to Connecticut, when a friendly Southern belle sat down next to her.

‘Where y’all goin’ to?’ asked the Southern belle.

Turning her nose in the air, the snob replied ‘I don’t answer people who end their sentences with prepositions’.

The Southern belle thought a moment, and tried again. ‘Where y’all goin’ to, bitch?’

Ace Gunner 03-06-2013 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9468760)
I wonder if they have interest in Charles Woodson on a 1 year deal.

They need leaders.

if he can still play, that would be worthwhile idea imo.

Rausch 03-06-2013 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls (Post 9469813)
if he can still play, that would be worthwhile idea imo.

He'd be a huge upgrade at Nickel or FS...

boogblaster 03-06-2013 09:24 AM

he needs to step-up his game .. last year he was a little better .....

milkman 03-06-2013 11:16 AM

Other than the Smith trade, Dorsey has done a good job so far with these decisions.
It's a damn shame his biggest move is the one bad one.

As for free agency, I have no interest in Benson, and even less in Bart Scott.

DTLB58 03-06-2013 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life (Post 9467918)
Still waiting for Cassel's RELEASE!

No shit!

I'm still thinking, they are gonna talk him into being Smith's back-up. :grr:

Old Dog 03-06-2013 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 9469719)
he was making such strides. I called his name at least 4 times in the last 5 games.

I don't believe yelling, "DAMN IT JACKSON" should count as "calling his name"

Canofbier 03-06-2013 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9469728)
You get no credit for whom when you end your sentence with a preposition.

A preposition is a fine thing to end a sentence with.

Hootie 03-06-2013 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DTLB58 (Post 9470385)
No shit!

I'm still thinking, they are gonna talk him into being Smith's back-up. :grr:

No...they are trying to see if there is any trade interest before cutting him

Mr. Laz 03-06-2013 01:42 PM

no reason to release Cassel until they have to


no really difficult to understand

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-06-2013 02:01 PM

Good. No draft pick for his roster spot.
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Sweet Daddy Hate 03-06-2013 02:03 PM

"serviceable"!!! That's what I DEMAND from my number one pick!/Chief Fan lmaolmaolmaolalala....
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Hammock Parties 03-08-2013 10:59 PM

This is awesome. Tyson Jackson + Glenn Dorsey = $1.7 million!

This is awesome. LMAO

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...terior-d-line/

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1. Tyson Jackson, Kansas City Chiefs

2012 Cap Hit: $9.5m
2012 Performance Based Value: $880k
Value Differential: -$8.6m


The Chiefs had one of the worst defensive lines in football last season, but it wasn’t because of former GM Scott Pioli’s lack of trying. Pioli inherited Top 5-pick Glenn Dorsey, drafted Tyson Jackson third overall in his first draft with the Chiefs, and then drafted Dontari Poe 11th last season. Those three combined for a grade of -15.2 on the season. Jackson in particular struggled to a -9.6 – the second worst grade of his career — and was just flat out unable to get any pass rush. His 2.2 Pass Rushing Productivity rating was the worst in the league and it’s safe to say he hasn’t lived up to his draft slot. Jackson was scheduled to have an outrageous cap hit of $17m next season, but it was recently restructured. The new deal is reportedly worth up to $5.2m and even that is way too high based on his 2012 performance.

2. Glenn Dorsey, Kansas City Chiefs

2012 Cap Hit: $8.8m
2012 Performance Based Value: $750k
Value Differential: -$8.0m


Did I mention the Chiefs defensive line struggled last year? This one isn’t quite fair to Glenn Dorsey though because he played only 115 total snaps before he was lost for the season with a calf injury. Many people will look at Dorsey’s four career sacks along with his fifth overall draft selection and label him a bust. The truth is he is as solid as they come in run defense and he had a positive grade in run defense every game this season. It’s just that his pass rushing ability has never developed, finishing this year with only one pressure on 53 pass rushing attempts. Dorsey is a free agent this off season and will assuredly get a large pay decrease.

Masterchief 03-08-2013 11:10 PM

kool because I still hold him to what he said to nick wright a few years ago...dont run the ball to my side of the field and we can expect a superbowl while he is on this team, hmmmm

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-08-2013 11:49 PM

jesus how pathetic...
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whoman69 03-09-2013 08:09 AM

He's twice as effective as Dorsey in pass coverage...





twice nothing is still nothing.


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