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ChiefGator 03-15-2013 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9503362)
Eli Manning, Peyton Manning, Troy Aikman, Terry Bradshaw, John Elway.

12 Super Bowls alone. All picked 1.1.

I'd love to play poker with some of you, because your understanding of implied odds is absolutely pathetic.

Who are Terry Bradshaw, Troy Aikman, and John Elway.. when did they last win?

Were they before the era of free agency?

EDIT: I looked up Terry Bradshaw.. he wishes he has the stats of Matt Cassel.

KC_Lee 03-15-2013 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefGator (Post 9503588)
Who are Terry Bradshaw, Troy Aikman, and John Elway.. when did they last win?

Were they before the era of free agency?

EDIT: I looked up Terry Bradshaw.. he wishes he has the stats of Matt Cassel.

:spock:

ChiefGator 03-15-2013 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 9503652)
:spock:

Point is, the business of football has changed a lot since them. Citing them as an example is completely foolish.

And if you look at their stats, Cassel is far better than Bradshaw.

Baby Lee 03-15-2013 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Kerberos (Post 9502025)
They signed him too?

He's dead.

AussieChiefsFan 03-15-2013 08:24 PM

Hell yes!

RunKC 03-15-2013 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9503282)
we will see. I'm not ready to crown any of the Youngs. Too small of a sample size
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Let's be real. Kaep and Wilson are probably gonna win a ring each and boost that %.

RunKC 03-15-2013 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9503469)
Shoot youself.

I'm not the biggest proponent of OT at 1. I'd rather have a pass rusher of some kind, but it seems like it's going to be OT.

This is going to be like the DV regime. Build the OL to help the QB succeed.

ChiefGator 03-15-2013 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9503684)
Let's be real. Kaep and Wilson are probably gonna win a ring each and boost that %.

I do believe in Kaep.. he is a phenomenal talent athletically. He has and will continue to rewrite history books with this speed and athleticism. I like Wilson, but I see a sophomore slump next year.

SAUTO 03-15-2013 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9503684)
Let's be real. Kaep and Wilson are probably gonna win a ring each and boost that %.

Lets really be real and realize that they both haven't proven shit. One season, **** half a season for kapernick, doesn't make a career. WE will see how they do when teams get some tape on them
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ChiefGator 03-15-2013 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9503711)
Lets really be real and realize that they both haven't proven shit. One season, **** half a season for kapernick, doesn't make a career. WE will see how they do when teams get some tape on them
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Exactly.. a different QB got the niners into such a good position, and Kaep just came in at the end when that niners QB got injured and couldn't finish his good run. There's only about 9 games (including playoffs) of take on him.

SAUTO 03-15-2013 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefGator (Post 9503731)
Exactly.. a different QB got the niners into such a good position, and Kaep just came in at the end .

Don't know what you are saying exactly about. I don't agree with what's posted here at all
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Easy 6 03-15-2013 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefGator (Post 9503696)
I like Wilson, but I see a sophomore slump next year.

I dont, theres a lot of evidence that says theres a real walk behind the talk with him, like he doesnt just give the smart answer because he's smart enough to know what the questioner wants to hear... but because thats what he genuinely does and thinks.

He isnt nearly the physical specimen kaepernick is, but i bet he has the brain to offset that enough to approximate or eventually surpass him.

Seattle is going to be a reeeal BITCH for the next several years imo, wilson works too hard and seattle is just too deep and talented for a sophomore slump.

Setsuna 03-15-2013 08:51 PM

Yall won't get Geno and will have Alex Smith, yet yall are celebrating. CP turning into True Fans.

penbrook 03-15-2013 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandusksuna (Post 9503837)
Yall won't get Geno and will have Alex Smith, yet yall are celebrating. CP turning into True Fans.

Dorsey said BPA and after Genos pro day how can he not be the BPA. I believe what Dorsey says and so far he has followed through. Geno would just be icing on top of the cake.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-15-2013 08:53 PM

If you believe what Dorsey says you should listen to what he said at Smith's PC. He's the guy in their mind. Give it up.

penbrook 03-15-2013 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9503850)
If you believe what Dorsey says you should listen to what he said at Smith's PC. He's the guy in their mind. Give it up.

Yes but that doesnt mean Geno cant be the #2. If Reid feels like Geno is better than Alex than Geno will start.

This isnt like Piolis butt buddy cassell where everyone knew he sucked but pioli was tied to him.

Reid and Dorsey want to win.

ChiefsCountry 03-15-2013 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9503469)
We have passed on damn near every quarterback that has won the last few superbowls and yet, still, there are DROVES of fans that are totally ok with putting their dicks back into the blender.

You would think people would learn when only Len Dawson and Joe Montana have playoff wins with this franchise. Sorry Steve DeBerg has one, but that proves the point. Only one win in the franchise was without a stud quarterback leading it, should tell people what this team needs.

RunKC 03-15-2013 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9503906)
You would think people would learn when only Len Dawson and Joe Montana have playoff wins with this franchise. Sorry Steve DeBerg has one, but that proves the point. Only one win in the franchise was without a stud quarterback leading it, should tell people what this team needs.

There are none of those QB's in this draft. It sucks, but it's the reality of it.

Gotta try next time unless Alex Smith is winning playoff games.

penbrook 03-15-2013 09:22 PM

Good God people on the Kcchiefs official fb page are stupid as hell. They ask the fans what do you want to do with the #1 pick.

I heard answers like ogletree, wilson, joeckel, millner, lacy, and teo.

I only heard one person say Geno. Another said take Geno and trade Alex.

Mother****erJones 03-15-2013 09:24 PM

There are all kinds of smokescreens right now. You can't believe everything. But I do know theyre not taking Geno. Theyre gona trade back for picks

penbrook 03-15-2013 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life (Post 9504050)
There are all kinds of smokescreens right now. You can't believe everything. But I do know theyre not taking Geno. Theyre gona trade back for picks

Thats what Im hoping for too. Hopefullt the Bills trade with us. We will get a lot of picks this and next year.

milkman 03-15-2013 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefGator (Post 9503588)
Who are Terry Bradshaw, Troy Aikman, and John Elway.. when did they last win?

Were they before the era of free agency?

EDIT: I looked up Terry Bradshaw.. he wishes he has the stats of Matt Cassel.

Entirely different era, and nearly an entirely differnt game then.

Terry Bradshaw was an outstanding QB, and probably the most underrated great QB ever.

Hammock Parties 03-15-2013 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9503850)
If you believe what Dorsey says you should listen to what he said at Smith's PC. He's the guy in their mind. Give it up.

Well, we were told actually that Reid is basically a pathological liar in press conferences...so Dorsey may be too.

Just trying to find one sliver of hope for G-dawg.

penbrook 03-15-2013 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9504101)
Well, we were told actually that Reid is basically a pathological liar in press conferences...so Dorsey may be too.

Just trying to find one sliver of hope for G-dawg.

Reid and Dorsey are here to win.

If they feel like they draft Geno and can beat out Alex than Geno will start.

FloridaMan88 03-15-2013 10:46 PM

I hate the Alex Smith trade, but I'll Reid/Dorsey credit... the Chiefs are actually an active participant in free agency for once.

Welcome to the modern, free agency-era NFL, KC... it only took 20 years.

Hammock Parties 03-15-2013 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 9504638)
Welcome to the modern, free agency-era NFL, KC... it only took 20 years.

BS.

No welcoming them to the present until 7+ YPA and at least 3600 yards.

That's asking for slightly above average.

Mother****erJones 03-15-2013 11:07 PM

The only stat I care for is wins

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-15-2013 11:09 PM

Luxury Pick forthcoming...
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boogblaster 03-15-2013 11:27 PM

good .....

BossChief 03-15-2013 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9504101)
Well, we were told actually that Reid is basically a pathological liar in press conferences...so Dorsey may be too.

Just trying to find one sliver of hope for G-dawg.

Im not sure id call him a liar, misinformation is part of his job...but he has no problem making "business decisions" that effect his perception...here are a few examples...

In 2010, he named Donovan McNabb the starter for the year....then, weeks later, he traded him to a division foe...named Kolb the starter for the season...a few weeks later he benched him in favor of Vick...Vick was the unquestioned starter with a 100 million dollar contract in 2011 and went into 2012 the unquestioned starter, until Reid benched his 100 million dollar QB at the halfway point in favor of a third round rookie.

If you go back and watch the press conferences prior to any of those moves, he acts like no change is gonna happen.

PA Chiefs 03-16-2013 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9504743)
Im not sure id call him a liar, misinformation is part of his job...but he has no problem making "business decisions" that effect his perception...here are a few examples...

In 2010, he named Donovan McNabb the starter for the year....then, weeks later, he traded him to a division foe...named Kolb the starter for the season...a few weeks later he benched him in favor of Vick...Vick was the unquestioned starter with a 100 million dollar contract in 2011 and went into 2012 the unquestioned starter, until Reid benched his 100 million dollar QB at the halfway point in favor of a third round rookie.

If you go back and watch the press conferences prior to any of those moves, he acts like no change is gonna happen.

They are not finished with the QB position A.Smith as of right now is the starter but if Chase or a rookie we draft light it up in camp and the preseason we will have a high priced backup Reid is no ***** he will not go down with this QB he wants to win:thumb:

penbrook 03-16-2013 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by PA Chiefs (Post 9504938)
They are not finished with the QB position A.Smith as of right now is the starter but if Chase or a rookie we draft light it up in camp and the preseason we will have a high priced backup Reid is no ***** he will not go down with this QB he wants to win:thumb:

Chase Daniel I feel can beat out Alex.

buddha 03-16-2013 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9504977)
Chase Daniel I feel can beat out Alex.

He can...however, he will likely see playing time first due to injury.

Chiefshrink 03-16-2013 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 9502835)
Excellent signing! DEFINITELY not a depth signing. He will start along this offensive line.

Agreed :thumb: Dorsey watched this guy firsthand in GB as Peterson's run production was better under Schwartz than it was under Fusco. Can you imagine IF Reid was a run first guy? Jamaal could actually challenge the single season rushing record.

Chiefshrink 03-16-2013 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9504094)
Entirely different era, and nearly an entirely differnt game then.

Terry Bradshaw was an outstanding QB, and probably the most underrated great QB ever.

:thumb:

Bradshaw was just a flat out "GAMER in BIG GAMES"

buddha 03-16-2013 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 9505163)
:thumb:

Bradshaw was just a flat out "GAMER in BIG GAMES"

Bradshaw was primarily a game manager who had a bazooka for a throwing arm. Pittsburgh was a great running team, so Terry never put up gaudy numbers.

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-16-2013 09:15 AM

Bradshaw and Mean Joe were my faves as a kid.
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milkman 03-16-2013 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by buddha (Post 9505202)
Bradshaw was primarily a game manager who had a bazooka for a throwing arm. Pittsburgh was a great running team, so Terry never put up gaudy numbers.

Bradshaw's game evolved as time passed and age took it's toll on Franco Harris.

It was still a running league, but those Steelers won SBs on the arm of Bradshaw when they needed plays to win.

Chiefshrink 03-16-2013 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by buddha (Post 9505202)
Bradshaw was primarily a game manager who had a bazooka for a throwing arm. Pittsburgh was a great running team, so Terry never put up gaudy numbers.

But his Bazooka Arm was a "Gamer Arm" when needed:thumb: And you can't say that about a lot of NFL system QBs. Let alone having a bazooka arm. Just sayin.


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