He better have zero ints.


If he has 1 there is a flaw.

Let me rephrase. There are no elite prospects in this draft.

You are basing this off of?

Talking heads on TV or your own professional analysis?

I'm not talking about his stats in the NFL.

Cam Newton was not considered "elite" coming out college. He had warts the size of oranges.

Possibly trading him? You can't evaluate based on the myriad rumors circulating. Franchising Albert was a good move.

Was cutting Winston was a bad move? It's hard to tell. I'm guessing they had a reason to do it -- it was definitely a personal choice by the coach. Again, I defer to the man with coaching experience.

Andy Reid is being a cock tease

Geno #1 overall to the Chiefs, count on it.

I admit to never having watched him play, but he's 6'1 220... not exactly midget material.

He also tossed for 72% and 4300 his senior year, so i'm inclined to say theres atleast some potential there, its seems he went undrafted because of his height and coming from a spread offense

Hyperbole much? He's played a whopping one year in the NFL, during which he threw 18 picks (the same number Sanchez threw), threw for less touchdowns than Russell Wilson, with a lower completion percentage and QB rating than both Wilson and RG3. Oh, and PFF graded Wilson higher than RG3 and Luck.

I wouldn't mind sitting Geno for a couple years , build up his strength, work on his craft and get accustomed to the NFL game, and just have Alex Smith play out his contract and Geno steps in, in a couple years. That's ONLY if we can't trade back and Albert is signed long term.

Don't you bring your voodoo on Geno!

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

It's very hard that we pick a QB a #1 and sit him for 2 seasons. Has this ever been done?

Close the thread now. It's ****ing over.

Peyton Manning, also threw a crap ton of picks his first year, also threw for a ton of yards, and went 3-13 his first year. Why? Because that is how Bruce Arians trains his qbs. Trial by fire. Seattle didnt let Russell Wilson loose till about week 10. Rg3, was never fully released. Hence why he threw so few passes, and most of his passes were off of zone reads, and play action boot legs. Those two were put on a govenor, where as andrew luck was handed a full blown ferrari, and told to have at it.

Andrew Luck, is the most complete qb since peyton manning to enter this league. Oh, and Andrew Luck, of the three, had by far the WORST team.

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Not in recent memory. THe last number one over all qb to sit period, i think was eli manning, even that only lasted about 9 weeks? If they draft Geno number one, he would be almost a guarantee to start. The we want geno smith chants would start before the first play of preseason i would have to imagine. There is no way that andy would want that.

Oh....and a QB like Andrew Luck comes around every 10 ****ing years. I guess we should wait until the next "elite" QB comes around.

Someone let me know when that is.....

If the Chiefs draft Geno Smith....I guarantee you that Reid would come out and state that Alex Smith would be his starting QB for 2013. If the chants for Geno start during the regular season....it's because Alex Smith is doing what everyone thought he would do.....****ing suck.

More like every 15. Consensus top QB prospects:
1983 - John Elway
2012 - Andrew Luck

not sure where you got that from. That wasnt what i was saying at ALL, not anywhere near it actually. I was just defending how good andrew luck is. Not talking about the chiefs in any way shape or form.....

Can't wait till Bridgewater is the one compared to Akili, Campbell, Culpepper, and Jafatass.

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Andy Reid said he's worked out Oregon LB/DE Dion Jordan and BYU defensive end Ziggy Ansah. Said he's considering all options for No.1 pick.

"Step aside Alex, I'm going to take over the QB position this season." Andy Reid.

I keep ****ing doing that for some reason. LMAO

Andy Reid has got to be the biggest football coach troll ever.

Andy Reid is at the owners meeting. WTF do you expect him to say? That they don't want Geno anymore?

He's trying to trade down. Of course he's going to say we have an interest in Geno.

It ruins everything by saying they don't want him.

Que punt, pass, and kick video with young Giant Andy

That couldn't name 1 ****ing play his team ran in college.

I do this shit all the time too.

I dont think the majority of chiefs fans, or anyone around the nfl expects alex smith to suck. I dont even think that is the majority of everyone on this board. Perhaps of the people posting. I think most people think that even if hes just a slight upgrade, he is an upgrade none the less of cassel.

I dont care what anyone says. If he just doesnt turn the ball over, hes a far bigger upgrade than people want to give credit for. For that reason alone, hes worth having. Maybe too expensive, i was on record over there stating that the 49ers would be lucky to get a 4th rounder for him, so i was as shocked as anyone, but, this is andy reid we are talking about.

WHY DOES IT MATTER SO MUCH WHAT WE THINK?

As he should. If he gets an offer that blows him away, he should take it, if not, take geno smith. Shrugs. He has all the leverage. and that leverage is only going to increase, as we get closer to draft day. By having alex smith, that actually creates more leverage, because now he can put it out that taking a qb isnt a need for him, and that moving has to benefit him.....

Guess what? Alex Smith, Chase Daniel and Geno Smith can all co-exist on this roster.

Alex Smith will win you games in 2013.
Chase Daniel is the experienced (slighty) backup QB who can step in if/when Smith gets hurt.
Geno Smith gets a year to learn under Reid and Pederson.

In 2014 you can keep either Alex Smith or Chase Daniel as your competition with Geno Smith. The other one is traded or cut.

lol, really, i agree. but, what else would we do to kill time. 6 EFFING MONTHS TILL FOOTBALL SEASON.......:cuss:

LMAO

JFC.

Cam Newton won the JUCO national championship as well as the BCS championship.

All of the most successful QB's in the NFL are cocky assholes. Do you think that for one minute, Joe Montana, Dan Marino and John Elway weren't cocky assholes? Hell, Marino still IS a cocky asshole.

Good thing Carolina didn't listen to all to all the "experts".

Dude.....Cam Newton was NOT elite coming out of college.

If Geno's going 1.1, we're not drafting him.

Interesting.

Then how did he throw for 4,051 yards and 21 TD's his rookie season of 2011?

So six weeks of training camp with Mike Shula as his QB coach made him elite? Hire Mike Shula, asap!

No, don't hire Mike Shula. He sucks ass.

actually, they are crediting his work with chris weinke, just like they talked up geno smith, for his work with chris weinke. Apparently, now chris weinke is the qb whisperer. Took, Mike Mayock from stating that geno smith should go in the late first at earliest, to stating he will be a top 10 pick, from the combine, to the pro day.

Ummmm....considering I'm talking about him as a college QB. He was never viewed as an "elite" QB coming out of college.

Cam Newton had awesome athletic ability. But he also is dumb as **** when it comes to a playbook and he's got a 10 cent head when it comes to off the field stuff.

Cam Newton had eleventy billion questions as a passer coming out.

Far more than Geno.

Cam did things in college that Geno couldn't dream of doing.

Well kiss geno goodbye, a few teams have already expressed their interest in trading for the # 1 overall pick with the chiefs according to Andy Reid.

Cam was asked to do things that Geno wasn't.

Then why was he taken #1 overall and why was he able to set the rookie passing record?

Clearly, anyone that said he wasn't "Elite" was a dumb****. It's exactly what happened to Marino, where people "claimed" he had issues and slipped to #27 overall.

Fortunately for Newton, Carolina ignored all the bullshit and took him #1 overall, anyway.

Link?

How awesome would it be if Dane was Danny Elfman, and that unbeknownst to all of us Elfman was not only an excellent composer and talented musician, but an irascible, passionate Chiefs fan?

Cam has far more physically ability and size than Geno Smith will ever have.

The ability to run a straight-line 4.59 does not give someone vision to see the field, run for 22 TD's or allude would-be tacklers. Newton is also 6'6, 250 pounds.

Smith will never be 6'6.

Geno never did anything as impressive as this. Ever.

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Geno wasn't asked to do those things because he isn't capable of doing those things. Nobody but Cam Newton was capable of doing what Cam did that year.

Cam is a better runner than Geno, no question.

Geno is a better passer than Cam, no question.

It's a push.

It would sure be awesome for Dane, I'll tell you that!

o:-)

Unfortunately, that's untrue. Well, the passionate Chiefs fan, anyway.

We will see about that.

It would also mean you were in Oingo Boingo, which is a level of ownage unto itself.

Like stealing a laptop?

The closest comparison in the NFL to Newton is Kaepernick. But he's only started 10 games vs. Newton's 32, so IMO, it's slightly premature to state that he's a Newton clone.

But Kaep certainly has the same skillset and will likely become a beast of a QB.

LMAO

No push if those are both true statements about each player. Passing QB > Running QB.

Danny Elfman is one of my favorite composers. Men In Black, Mars Attacks! Batman/Batman Returns, Dick Tracy and Beetlejuice are awesome scores.

If Dane was Danny Elfman I would have a a real crisis of conscience.

HEZ JUZT TRYING TO DRUM UPZ THE TRADE VALUUEESSSZZZZZZZ...../mouth breather.

Here he comes haters, the time for you to suck some sweet choco-penii draweth nigh.
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I'm not so keep on hatin'!

:D

I forgot how horrible Mark Barron was in coverage.

ROFL

+ Plagiarism

+ Cam Cam Juice

i'd cry if Dane was Danny Elfman, Oingo Boingo is one of my favorite punk bands ever

+ Inability to read.

+ Inability to work through progressions consistently.

moot point.

We might as well talk about the things Cordell Patterson can do in relation to Justin Blackmon.

They both (Geno & Cordell) have about the same chance on being a Chief next year.

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doesnt matter when you can do this

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Thanks you sir.

Seriously can we trust a thing the Chiefs are saying right now?

Of course not.

Geno isn't out of the picture. We've been contacted by other teams for that pick. Blah, blah, blah.

All smokescreens trying to garner interest.

And Steve still wants more. Bad mother****er, he is.

This is blowing my mind.

Seriously.

Has anyone listened to Aaron Rogers? The guy is an arrogant prick.

I have like 15-20 WVU games saved in case we pick Geno.

I was ready to delete them all until this stupid thread.

SO THEY'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO SIT AROUND ON MY HARD DISK SOME MORE

Savah the flavah.
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Might as well send them to me.

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