How can you not have meats or dairy?

No milk, no cheese, no hamburger no steak?

What do you eat for protein?

When you say you haven't had a drink "yet".

Yet means "you're eligible too"

You can always fall off that wagon.

It's called a vegan diet. A lot of people do it.

The human body requires approximately .36 grams of protein per pound that an individual weights; e.g., a 180 lbs. man would require approximately 73.8 grams of protein daily. One bagel has 10 grams of protein. 2 Tbl. of almonds is 7 grams. One cup of broccoli has 4 grams of protein. It adds up rather quickly.

Quinoa, mushrooms, legumes, nuts are all quite high in proteins. It's really pretty easy to go way over your required protein numbers even on a strict vegan diet.

The whole "you need to eat a shit ton of meat and drink milk" to survive is a little overblown. (Probably propagated by the cattle/dairy industry.) And dairy is really kind of disgusting. I mean, that shit is meant for a baby cow, not humans. And all mammals wean off of their mothers milk early in life. It's a very rich and nutrient dense food source meant to spur rapid growth in infants/adolescents. Once a body gets to a certain stage, that level of nutrients aren't required. However, we humans have decided to take baby cow juice and keep on sucking it down.

It's really no different than drinking milk from a lactating dog. Just animal milk, and a cow is pretty docile and weighs a lot/puts out a lot of milk, which is why we decided on cow milk versus dog milk.

I'd recommend watching the documentary "Forks Over Knives." Pretty interesting commentary on the consumption of dairy products in particular. My favorite comment in the movie came from the Health Director of the city of Chicago, who advocates a whole food, vegetarian diet: "If it's got eyes, arms, legs, a mom and a dad, don't eat it." (Mollusk such as clams, oysters, mussels and the like would be okay I guess as they don't have brains and reproduce by mass fertilization.)

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And remember:

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Ha! Me neither, until now. But I'm an old **** and it finally started catching up with me. You have many years of self inflicted abuse before you catch up with me. ;)

To be honest, my softball skills are no better sober than they were drunk. I'm just good enough to not make a fool out of myself. I do love playing the game though.

Thanks.

It definitely had an effect on my body. Since I quit, my poops are getting solid again! Very satisfying.

Yea, I'm not using the word "yet" for exactly that reason. I'm probably delusional, but I choose to attack this as if I've got it figured out. For me, the battle isn't with alcohol, it's with me.

That makes a helluva lot of sense. I've come to acknowledge that my family has a hereditary issue with addiction. Be it alcohol or whatever, doesn't matter. My younger sister just within the last few days has admitted to her painkiller addiction. Which I've been pleading with her about for years. Turns out she's been popping 15-20 Oxy pills a day. And this is after doing almost 2 years behind bars in the past for it. Looking at detox options now.

Keep with it. I know how addiction can ruin lives. Even entire families. Sounds like you're already seeing the benefits of rising above it, and that's gotta be huge motivation.

I can relate to inherited addictions. I got mine from my Moms side of the family. As a kid, we used to have huge family reunions. Usually they were local, at a lake or camp ground, sometimes we would travel. I remember it was a drunken fest for the adults. My grandparents, my Great Uncles and Aunts, my immediate Uncle, my Mom, my older grown up cousins... it seemed like everyone was drunk. Now, my memories of these reunions are nothing but GREAT!! They were a blast, everyone let loose and partied till the sun came up and then we would go fishing and the drunken fun continued. IT WAS GREAT!!! Now that I'm the old Uncle (at time the obnoxious drunken Uncle), I see the pattern continuing with my brother, my cousins, my nieces and nephews and of course my Mom. I only hope my child didn't get the gene. I've let her know that she was born with an addictive personality and she needs to be aware of it. She sees it in her Nana (my Mom), Nana usually starts slurring around 3PM or 4PM. In a way, Nana's slurring may help my daughter get a handle on this MOTHER ****ING ADDICTION! She's certainly helped make my daughter aware.

Good luck to your little sis! Positive thoughts going out to her from one addict to another.

To most everyone, this is just another thread. To me, it's a very helpful outlet. I have had many victories in my lifetime (many failures too). Quitting drinking is by far my greatest victory. I am saving my life (literally). I need to keep reminding myself of that.
A friend of mine joined AA several years ago. I reached out to him and told him I had quit drinking. He told me how proud he was of me and that he'd fallen off the wagon a year ago, but he quit drinking again on July 2nd. After I heard his story I said to myself, hey, I can fall off the wagon and climb back on also. I had to convince myself that I can't do that. Gotta stay on this wagon forever. Nobody knows about that little battle that I won. Now you know. That is all.

Keep on, bro. I've behaved myself all week. Had zero beverages Sunday, two postgame beverages Tuesday, and zero last night. Was planning to have 2 or 3 tonight but now our games have been cancelled. I wouldn't be doing this without this thread.

You keep on as well, sir. Find what works for you and stick with it. It feels good to feel good about myself. I don't feel comfortable bragging about myself at home. So I do it here. I'm glad this thread has had a positive effect on you. We've earned the right to brag a little. :clap:

Keep it up!! Hopefully it gets just a little bit easier every day.

In the beginning, the wife was thrilled that I quit smoking and drinking. Now, it's probably just another day. That's not the case for the one that quit. Not a day has gone by that I haven't talked myself out of having a drink. I shouldn't expect anyone to pat me on the back, it's no ones problem except mine. I know I'm supposed to be doing this for myself, not others. Were I not trying to save my marriage, I would go home tonight and fix myself a nice cold Martini, sit in my back yard light up a cigarette and I would be in heaven. 3 months, 2 weeks, 5 days without smoking. Day 18 without booze. I'm very happy.

or am I? :)

I think you're happy. What's not to be happy about? We live in a world with Dr. Pepper and kittens and 24 hours a day of Big Bang Theory reruns. We live in a world where pornography is easily available and you can buy a double cheeseburger for a dollar. I mean, what's not to like?

When you put it that way, how can I not be happy. Thanks Rain Man.

Here. Have a cheeseburger and enjoy this kitten picture.

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I should clarify that the kitten is not about to be crushed by a giant falling cheeseburger. Everything is good.

Where have you been hiding this important information?

So, no kittens were hurt during the making of that post?

I thought you knew.

No. We're very careful about that. Otherwise, it wouldn't be a happy thread.

Well, considering you posted a single patty cheeseburger above, I'm going to presume that you are full of poo.

That's just a conceptual cheeseburger. You have to imagine the other patty.

Imagination isn't my strong suit. Perhaps reviewing some readily-available porn will get the juices flowing.

I know that usually works for me.

Gosh, it's hard to find cheeseburger porn, but I think this might be an orgy.

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And incidentally, if you google "cheeseburger porn", the first picture that shows up on my computer (woman on a kitchen counter) really does meet both criteria.

My GOD look at how tightly those buns are clamped around that beef. Juices dripping and everything. :drool:

Keep up the good fight sir. It will be worth it.

What are you doing with the extra money from not buying booze/tobacco? Maybe you can buy yourself something as a reward to keep yourself going.

As a matter of fact. Last week-end I bought myself a new air compressor and this week-end I'm getting a new palm sander. Tonight, I'm going to buy myself a double cheeseburger.

Treat yourself! Good to see you doing well.

Thank you sir!!

Hello friends. In case you're keeping track with me...

137 days no smoking
46 days no drinking

Sure feels like it's been longer than that.

Nice. keep it up

everyday struggle dawg

Nice :thumb:

It sure is