Meh, we swapped bad players so, no harm, no foul

Best case is AJ is a slow learner and a late bloomer. That is still possible.

Well, if Reid envisions Jenkins being that deep threat he had in Philly then he picked the wrong ****ing QB to get the ball there.

couldn't turn Aj Jenkins into anything. All gonna depend on Baldwin. Does he want to be a worthless piece of shit, or does he want to step up and be a professional.

Baldwin is a beast. We should have gave more time with this new regime. He finally got decent coaches around him and Bowe held out last offseason. He didn't get much help.

Delete that Stanzi pic and you'll be on to something.

Now we know why Smith was forcing the ball to him vs San Fran. My guess is this has been a discussion and San Fran wanted to see what he had. We might have gotten more if he played half decent.

After the other night I was ready to cut him. Don't know much about Jenkins, but it cant be any worse. Baldwin can't seperate and has shit hands.

That's fine.

Maybe a change of scenery will do both of these guys well.

Probably not. Baldwin wasn't ever going to do shit here. He just didn't care.

Hopefully this works out like the Guthrie garbage swap did for the Royals.

Seriously. Just shut the **** up dude.

You've been here since the beginning of CP. Far longer than DJ's Left Nut. And I've never seen you post anything 1/10th as original or intelligent as him.

All you ever do is comment on mob mentality and accuse people of being crybabies, when you're obviously the biggest one on this ****ing forum.

Go the **** away.

Forcing it to him? What did he get? 3 targets with 1 of them being wide open and him dropping the ball?

Not sure if you can even count the pass Smith threw almost to the first row as a "target."

I need to pick up Baldwin in FF now.

This trade means one thing. We are slow at wr. AJ makes us a little faster and SF wants a bigger body to block outside for Kap.

I don't know about that.

It might be more frustrating to watch a 6'5" guy play like a 5'10" dude and get bumped around by corners 40 lbs. lighter.

You'll get your chance to see it.

@spotrac: #Chiefs send WR Jon Baldwin (2 yrs/$2.2M remaining) to #49ers for WR AJ Jenkins (3 yrs/$3.06M remaining) http://t.co/g3FFiEWY4p

If you get points for dropped passes then yes. By all means.

This. Its like people assume the only way to use fast WRs is to send them on flies every play.
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Good choice of words. His hands were made of cement.

I like the trade. You can never have enough speed and if it works out all the better. Keeping Baldwin we have less speed with no hands that doesn't fit Andy's system. Can't hurt at this point.:hmmm:

God knows we'll need speed guys when the pocket is collapsing in 2 seconds.

Reid wont let Pioli's shit players control his destiny. Glad he's gone

Just when you thought the bar couldn't get any lower....

I say this

the more Pioli picks that Reid/Dorsey get rid of, the better this team will be

CUT ERIC BERRY NOW

Which bums can we trade Berry and Houston for?

that's a good point. Will be interesting to see how he does.

It was three straight targets. There were plenty of people that said it appeared that it was being forced to him. Just a guess on my part. :shrug:

LMAO does it hurt always having that stick up your bum?

What a one who sucks the penis that guy was. TJax and Baldwin. **** man.

I'm glad you brought up the only 2 good Pioli draft picks out of like 30 picks

Pioli nailed like 6% of his picks. Congrats on wasting 4 years of the players on the team with actual talent

Different players for different systems and a change of scenery could help who knows. But as far as us being slow at WR yes, I agree but I thought we were to help that with the Avery signing? So far he has been invisible. Very disappointing.

Prediction:

Baldwin won't see the field all year. Then in the NFCC game at some critical juncture, Harbaugh will put in Baldwin as if to block on an obvious rushing down, but he will catch the pivotal TD for the win.

Some kind of sneak play crap like that. 6'-4" secret weapon "In case of emergency break glass".

The rare trade that might work out for everybody involved.

So assuming we keep him, what does that do to our WRs?

Reid seems to like Wylie a lot. One of the undrafted/scrub guys who had a chance at making this team is going to get raped, I think.

It could be Hemingway, which is sad to hear. Jenkins better turn shit around with us. At least marginally.

He's your very own Kris Wilson.

Congrats.

I hope it isn't Hemingway. I want that guy to succeed.

Be sure to throw it high.

Does he?

Wylie used to return kicks/punts and now he doesn't do anything for the first team.

Boomshakalaka....here comes the ChiefRocka.

Sure why not...he wasn't going to make this team anyway.

hahaha.....he'll drop it, man.

Cue Laz with the crybaby .jpeg.

play in a 42 team league do ya?

He was another waste of a pick, unfortunately. I just don't see how Wylie has a place on this team.

the irony now is the guy that Pioli drafted over Kaepernick, the player the Chiefs scouts lobbied for, now play together lol

so basically our 2011 draft, was shit, like the 2009 one.

Gonna cry about a 4th round bust/"waste of a pick"?

I laughed my ass of when they showed people wearing Baldwin jerseys at the game on Friday. Why would you ever get that Jersey?
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Hey guys...Niner fan here...

Just tryin to find out a bit about Balwin. Sounds like you guys are just as frustrated with Baldwin as were were with AJ.

Things to know on AJ...

1) He is fast, but it never really shows on the field.
2) Small. a bit frail. His size/weight would lead you to believe that he's more stout than he is. Was getting OWNED at the line this past weekend. Couldn't create separation to save his life.
3) Came into camp last year totally out of shape. Was puking at the first minicamp.
4) Motivation really appears to be an issue. Won't fight for the ball
5) On the positive side, has HUGE hands and was good for spectaular catches in camp...but they were few and far between.

Attaching a draft vid with AJ as the first pick.

EDIT: NM...it won't let me post the link. Its an HD vid of the ESPN and NFL Network footage of AJ being drafted. Lookup Marvin49 on youtube to find it.

Not crying. Just stating that I never understood the pick to begin with.

Very interesting and cool. This could work for both or neither sides. I'd rather have A.J. Jenkins than Baldwin, honestly.. but this trading of underwhelming WRs for fresh starts is fine by me. KC could use more speed, and would be screwed if Avery gets injured. SF could use a big dude that Kaep can lob it up to for jump balls. Will be fun to see how this plays out.

Special teams and slot WR depth.
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aww ... look sticking up for his buddy


little cum still on your chin

I don't want Baldwin and expect nothing from him. I wanted Coby Fleener in 2012. If the 49ers took Fleener, they could have taken Keenan Allen this year instead of TE Vance MacDonald.

Our GM is great but he completely whiffed by reaching for Jenkins. sh IT Happens.

Honestly though, it just feels good to have Baldwin off of the roster.

His source is pioli. Imagine that

All I meant is, I expect Baldwin to be useless, and about the only use he will have is as a decoy or some stupid trick play. I'll be shocked if he plays 4 downs as a 49er or has any success.

Bust for bust. I hadn't given up on Jenkins yet. I expect NOTHING from Baldwin.

Gotta get that half a point baby! PBJ

ROFLROFLROFL I had last pick too.

I wonder if they asked Alex Smith about Jenkins before they did this? Maybe Allen and Asamoah can encourage him and pick him up...

Also, I like that Dorsey doesn't **** around. That's the best thing about this.

I completely believe it. You know your players. I expect nothing from Baldwin. Bust for bust. I wish the 49ers had kept Jenkins. He is probably a bust, but at least he only has 1 bad year, so I had a bit of hope. Baldwin is going to be worthless unless he can block or play special teams.

baldwin:

lots of size and physical ability but never really showed it on the field

should be strong but was easily knocked off his routes

longstrider so getting bumped around keeps him from getting up to speed

seems to lacks heart and passion

body of superman, head of gumby


potential is huge

Justin Houston alone makes it 10,000 times better than 2009.

When you factor in Hudson, it's arguably the best draft of the Pioli era.

Hell, Powe is solid depth at NT for us. It WAS the best draft of the Pioli era.

Not as great as it could have been at all, but not a total loss. We got a stud, a starter, and a really fat guy who's pretty fun to crack jokes about. Not bad.

Too bad 5'10" corners beat his ass on a regular basis.

And chiefs fans wonder why theres so many 9er fans registered at this site. Face it, you guys are the 9ers sister team.

Exhibit A of your dumbshittery.

If you never posted here again, nobody would ****ing care or notice. That's how much you matter. You don't.

LMAO 1 target his whole career.

It would explain a lot if Alex was given direction to try and get Baldwin the ball. Some of the throws he made were not his game style...it seemed forced.

I'm not sure that either team made out on this trade..both players have been pretty much useless 1st rounders.

Reid had Wylie doing far more active things earlier in the preseason game. Wylie was out there in the 2nd quarter. Hemingway didn't show up until halfway through the 3rd.

For right now, at least, Wylie is apparently ahead of Hemingway in the pecking order.

Jenkins NFL Pre-draft analysis:


Baldwin's Pre-Draft NFL Analysis:


Jenkins vs. Baldwin (NFL Combine measurements):


Summary of trade:

Jenkins doesn't provide much in the way of blocking in the open field against NFL defenders which is needed when Kaepernick freelances with his legs. Baldwin can't run routes, which is needed above all other things in the Edwards West Coast system. Both have underperformed after being first round draft choices and both teams are hoping that a change of system will allow the players to reach their first round potential.

A good trade for both teams.

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I'm a little choked up over here....

It's truly not worth the argument with this guy. The great thing about CP is that there is absolutely no escaping your record. I've misfired, sure (Baldwin being among them), but Laz is truly miserable. So in the end, when it turns into a completely unsubstantiated pissing match, I'll just stand on my record.

The NFL is better when talented players play well. Baldwin's a talented player. I hope he figures it out in SF because it seems apparent that he just has not grown up like he needs to.

He's spent his career talking the talk, but I wonder if he really walks the walk. All the tweets and videos of midnight running in the world doesn't mean much at this level. I watched Hard Knocks on Saturday and they had a camera on AJ Green watching the Atlanta from his apartment with another injured teammate. His teammate turns and asks him something like "Hey, do you have TiVo?" And Green honestly had no idea. It was kinda funny; he just said something about how he doesn't watch much TV.

Now there's a talent gap between Baldwin and Green, for sure. But it's not as big as the production gap between the two has been. Had Baldwin gone out there and busted his ass like Green does, he'd be a player. He has every skill in the world and talent to spare. He just hasn't grown up.

Maybe this is the moment for him we're hoping for from Bray. Maybe getting his ass dumped will convince him that he's been coasting and show him how to truly excel. I hope he does.

matter enough for you and your little butt buddy to go out of your way to post about.

Hell DJsuckmynuts might even reach stalker status for me since i matter so little

i matter so little that your remember virtually every post i make

LMAO

**** Ya!

I don't care what anyone thinks of me, but I will say that you are a good poster here. :D


^ shit. That was for D.J.

don't like small hands for Jenkins :hmmm:

Regarding the bold - did they have him out wide? Or was he lined up in the slot?

I only ask because I was hoping Baldwin could use the 'Victor Cruz' model of gaining separation via scheme. Cruz, when he was played out wide last year, really really struggled to break the press. That's why losing Manningham and Nicks hurt him so badly. When he had Nicks and Manningham, Cruz could play the slot and the NCB couldn't really get a press on him. Baldwin was just too slow out of his cuts to make that work.

Jenkins, OTOH, is not. If he was playing out wide, I can see how he'd have been eaten up by the press. Some guys just never learn to use their hands well (Cruz). Perhaps moving him to the slot will allow him to utilize that speed and first step better.

Few things are worse than a gifted physical specimen with a 10-cent head.

Jenkins has only had one HC. Baldwin had three and couldn't fit in with any of them. Maybe that's a good sign for us?

KC's roster is going to resemble an abandoned house occupied by meth addicts. No more Copper. :D

The punch from Jones caused Baldfail to become a slow, shitty route running idiot?