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Tombstone RJ 10-07-2013 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 10060711)
Never go full knowmo

never do, thanks.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-07-2013 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 10060715)
never do, thanks.

It's too late man. Little Richard after TD's has ****ed everyone up. It's like Halloween 3 Season of the Witch out in Pile High.

mr. tegu 10-07-2013 04:47 PM

Teams pass against Denver because there is no resistance.

20+ yard pass plays against:

Denver - 32 (last in the league)
KC - 13 (tied for 8th)

Rausch 10-07-2013 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 10060685)
where did I say the Broncos defense is better? I said the Broncos secondary, especially the CBs are better as a unit than kc's.

No...

Walrus 10-07-2013 04:51 PM

Nothing like a donk homer bragging about their secondary the day after a QB threw for 500+ yards and 5 TD's against them.

Tombstone RJ 10-07-2013 04:53 PM

You guys are right, kc is unbeatable. There's no way, none, that the Broncos can beat kc. NONE.

Walrus 10-07-2013 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 10060748)
You guys are right, kc is unbeatable. There's no way, none, that the Broncos can beat kc. NONE.

There it is. You lost.

Tombstone RJ 10-07-2013 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Walrus (Post 10060759)
There it is. You lost.

yep, kc will go undefeated, sweeping the Broncos on their way to winning the SB. Congrats!

MeatRock 10-07-2013 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 10060720)
Teams pass against Denver because there is no resistance.

20+ yard pass plays against:

Denver - 32 (last in the league)
KC - 13 (tied for 8th)


OUCH!!! ROFL

Easy 6 10-07-2013 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Walrus (Post 10060743)
Nothing like a donk homer bragging about their secondary the day after a QB threw for 500+ yards and 5 TD's against them.

For real...

Walrus 10-07-2013 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 10060766)
yep, kc will go undefeated, sweeping the Broncos on their way to winning the SB. Congrats!

No one said that. You're here bragging about your shit secondary, saying how much better it is than the Chiefs secondary. You get called a reerun by multiple posters and you resort to something no one said. You lost.

MeatRock 10-07-2013 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Walrus (Post 10060783)
No one said that. You're here bragging about your shit secondary, saying how much better it is than the Chiefs secondary. You get called a reerun by multiple posters and you resort to something no one said. You lost.

It's Peyton Manning syndrome. The Broncos are 5-0 and all of a sudden every Broncos player is better than the Chiefs.

notorious 10-07-2013 05:01 PM

500 yards.

Shut the **** up. ROFL

Tombstone RJ 10-07-2013 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Walrus (Post 10060783)
No one said that. You're here bragging about your shit secondary, saying how much better it is than the Chiefs secondary. You get called a reerun by multiple posters and you resort to something no one said. You lost.

no trust me, kc is unbeatable! drink the red koolaid!

Tombstone RJ 10-07-2013 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MeatRock (Post 10060791)
It's Peyton Manning syndrome. The Broncos are 5-0 and all of a sudden every Broncos player is better than the Chiefs.

never said that.

but I do remember when a moron, much like yourself, hell, it could have been you, said that kc's TEs were better than the Broncos TEs.

RunKC 10-07-2013 05:04 PM

Tombstone is the classic Bronco dumbass.

Your secondary just gave up 500 freaking yards passing. You're LAST in the NFL in pass defense jackass.

You have no say.

But again, this clown thinks that Bill Williamson is credible.

Tombstone RJ 10-07-2013 05:04 PM

everyone drink red koolaid!!!

Rausch 10-07-2013 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 10060797)
no trust me, kc is unbeatable! drink the red koolaid!

We're not unbeatable we just have a better defense than you at all levels.

You flip to offense and I'd say Denver is better than KC at every position other than HB (probably a push on the O line.)

MeatRock 10-07-2013 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 10060802)
never said that.

but I do remember when a moron, much like yourself, hell, it could have been you, said that kc's TEs were better than the Broncos TEs.

It could have been, in your mind, but alas, it wasn't me. Sorry to disappoint you.

Tombstone RJ 10-07-2013 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10060807)
Tombstone is the classic Bronco dumbass.

Your secondary just gave up 500 freaking yards passing. You're LAST in the NFL in pass defense jackass.

You have no say.

But again, this clown thinks that Bill Williamson is credible.

again, when you force the other team to pass, that's gonna happen. When the Broncos won the SB's with Elway then were like 23rd in passing defense because teams passed on them all the time.

RunKC 10-07-2013 05:06 PM

It's funny watching Tombstone get owned like this. Now he's making absolute statements that nobody has said.

You guys completely depantsed him.

Tombstone RJ 10-07-2013 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MeatRock (Post 10060815)
It could have been, in your mind, but alas, it wasn't me. Sorry to disappoint you.

not disappointed at all! I'm sure you've fully drunk the red koolaid and know that the Broncos have zero chance against the mighty chiefs!

ROYC75 10-07-2013 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 10060714)
wow, you are that stupid.

LOL, I'm not the one that just saw my team get torched for 500 yards + passing and have the balls to say that my coverage unit was basically , elite !

Seriously, If you can claim your secondary is better than KC's after getting torched for 500+ yards, you are either stupid or everybody else in America is stupid!

Pasta Little Brioni 10-07-2013 05:09 PM

No, all we are saying is that Denver isn't some unbeatable juggernaut and KC's style of play makes them oh so ripe for an L.

Tombstone RJ 10-07-2013 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10060820)
It's funny watching Tombstone get owned like this. Now he's making absolute statements that nobody has said.

You guys completely depantsed him.

look who's talking lol! I said one thing, that the Broncos secondary is better than kc's, especially at the CB position and everyone hear is saying that I'm claiming the Broncos defense is better than kc's and I never said that at all! I've also pointed out that when other teams pass and pass and pass the ball it's going to skew the numbers.

MeatRock 10-07-2013 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 10060818)
again, when you force the other team to pass, that's gonna happen. When the Broncos won the SB's with Elway then were like 23rd in passing defense because teams passed on them all the time.

That doesn't make your secondary better than KC's, it makes them worse. I don't care how many times they pass on the Broncos, because if it's working then why stop, right?

Tombstone RJ 10-07-2013 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 10060828)
No, all we are saying is that Denver isn't some unbeatable juggernaut and KC's style of play makes them oh so ripe for an L.

well the Broncos are undefeated so far, it's just that the Broncos are winning more with offense and kc is winning more with defense.

RunKC 10-07-2013 05:11 PM

KC secondary had a good game against the same Cowboys WR's that lit up the Broncos from the opening snap.

But the Broncos are better! /tombstone

Pasta Little Brioni 10-07-2013 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 10060829)
look who's talking lol! I said one thing, that the Broncos secondary is better than kc's, especially at the CB position and everyone hear is saying that I'm claiming the Broncos defense is better than kc's and I never said that at all! I've also pointed out that when other teams pass and pass and pass the ball it's going to skew the numbers.

You are wrong and have nothing to back it up. Don't be surprised when we call you out over it. I don't even see how it' close....Iateanacho is soooo much better than Berry in your mind ROFL

notorious 10-07-2013 05:14 PM

RJ is fishing with dynamite.

Tombstone RJ 10-07-2013 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MeatRock (Post 10060830)
That doesn't make your secondary better than KC's, it makes them worse. I don't care how many times they pass on the Broncos, because if it's working then why stop, right?

hopefully that will change when Miller gets back and the Broncos can apply more pressure to the opposing QB.

MeatRock 10-07-2013 05:14 PM

LMAO @ Dungvers secondary being better than the Chiefs secondary. :eek:

Rausch 10-07-2013 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 10060818)
again, when you force the other team to pass, that's gonna happen.

No, it happens because your secondary is total $#it.

You get no pressure, you blow coverages, and you take risks that don't pay off.

EVERYONE in the NFL is better at stopping the Pass than you.

You aren't the only team to score a lot of points.

You are the only team to be completely unable to stop the passing game...

Rausch 10-07-2013 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 10060843)
hopefully that will change when Miller gets back and the Broncos can apply more pressure to the opposing QB.

You might only be 4th or 5th worst after that...

Tombstone RJ 10-07-2013 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 10060837)
You are wrong and have nothing to back it up. Don't be surprised when we call you out over it. I don't even see how it' close....Iateanacho is soooo much better than Berry in your mind ROFL

fair enough! Like I said I guess we will see who's better when these two teams play each other.

RNR 10-07-2013 05:15 PM

LMAO when this site was imploding over trading for Alex Smith and not drafting Geno I posted they would win 10 games and make the playoffs and was dismissed. Now the same site is pissed because they are not getting the same respect as the Broncos who to are clearly the better team. That said the donks are one injury away from very beatable. Whatever it is humorous watching the fickle planet over the years~

Rausch 10-07-2013 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RNR (Post 10060851)
LMAO when this site was imploding over trading for Alex Smith and not drafting Geno I posted they would win 10 games and make the playoffs and was dismissed. Now the same site is pissed because they are not getting the same respect as the Broncos who to are clearly the better team. That said the donks are one injury away from very beatable. Whatever it is humorous watching the fickle planet over the years~

Be sure to come back a week from now!

Pasta Little Brioni 10-07-2013 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 10060842)
RJ is fishing with dynamite.

Don't give him that kind of credit...He's no vail or PGM :)

Deberg_1990 10-07-2013 05:18 PM

I love what Smith is doing, but I have a hard time seeing him beating Manning in a BIG game.....but who knows? Manning has been beaten by alot of QBs lesser than him. Team sport, winning includes alot of variables.
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Pasta Little Brioni 10-07-2013 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RNR (Post 10060851)
LMAO when this site was imploding over trading for Alex Smith and not drafting Geno I posted they would win 10 games and make the playoffs and was dismissed. Now the same site is pissed because they are not getting the same respect as the Broncos who to are clearly the better team. That said the donks are one injury away from very beatable. Whatever it is humorous watching the fickle planet over the years~

Huh. I called 11 wins after the addition of Smith and hiring of Reid and nailed the reason why. I may have under shot the total though :eek:

Rausch 10-07-2013 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 10060867)
Huh. I called 11 wins after the addition of Smith and hiring of Reid and nailed the reason why. I may have under shot the total though :eek:

Possible. If we win this week 11 wins is very likely...

Walrus 10-07-2013 05:21 PM

It's not like Romo threw the ball 60 times, he threw it 36 times and still had 500 yards. Your defense is shit.

RNR 10-07-2013 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10060853)
Be sure to come back a week from now!

I will be glad to. I have been here for years. I was here earlier this year being blown off for predicting the Chiefs would be good this year. Rather or not you wish to admit this place is fickle or not matters little to me. The team I root for has been struggling for over a decade so this is not smack, it is a matter of fact observation~

RNR 10-07-2013 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 10060867)
Huh. I called 11 wins after the addition of Smith and hiring of Reid and nailed the reason why. I may have under shot the total though :eek:

I do not recall calling out you specifically~

Chiefaholic 10-07-2013 05:27 PM

While on the subject of good calls vs. no calls... Can one of you explain to this undereducated idiot exactly WHAT is a false start? When Peyton goes under center, then stands up and taps his linemen on the back and pointing out who the blitzers are, is THAT not a false start? If not that, then is it not a false start for his linemen to stand up from a three point stance and point at the guy who they feel is going to blitz? For the life of me, this crap pisses me off every time I've watched Manning play. I watch out guys get flagged for nothing more than a head bob, then watch these idiots damn near do jumping jacks with all the arm movement and it's never called. I don't claim to be an expert on the rules, so an explanation would be appreciated.

And I understand the NFL is a business and TV ratings are what determines how large their next contract is. Franchise QB's increase ratings, and casual / bandwagon fans aren't going to watch a game when their favorite player (not team) gets hurt. However, if the refs are going to call it one way, the same call should apply to every single team in the NFL.

Rausch 10-07-2013 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefaholic (Post 10060908)
While on the subject of good calls vs. no calls... Can one of you explain to this undereducated idiot exactly WHAT is a false start? When Peyton goes under center, then stands up and taps his linemen on the back and pointing out who the blitzers are, is THAT not a false start? If not that, then is it not a false start for his linemen to stand up from a three point stance and point at the guy who they feel is going to blitz? For the life of me, this crap pisses me off every time I've watched Manning play. I watch out guys get flagged for nothing more than a head bob, then watch these idiots damn near do jumping jacks with all the arm movement and it's never called. I don't claim to be an expert on the rules, so an explanation would be appreciated.

And I understand the NFL is a business and TV ratings are what determines how large their next contract is. Franchise QB's increase ratings, and casual / bandwagon fans aren't going to watch a game when their favorite player (not team) gets hurt. However, if the refs are going to call it one way, the same call should apply to every single team in the NFL.

Payed-a-ton has done this forever to draw encroachment penalties...

Easy 6 10-07-2013 05:33 PM

Anyone else wanna smack tombstone around, or has pretty much everyone already had their turn?

LMAO

Contrarian 10-07-2013 05:35 PM

If you could hold him down for me I would love to kick him a few more times.

Tombstone RJ 10-07-2013 05:39 PM

lol, like I said, we shall see soon enough which team is better...

Rausch 10-07-2013 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 10060951)
lol, like I said, we shall see soon enough which team is better...

I'd be shocked if you didn't allow Smith to pass for 300+...

Tombstone RJ 10-07-2013 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10060957)
I'd be shocked if you didn't allow Smith to pass for 300+...

I don't think Smith passed for 300+ against the jags...

ROYC75 10-07-2013 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 10060951)
lol, like I said, we shall see soon enough which team is better...

Now you are back tracking here, your comment was the secondary. Now it's team ?

I think you will find here that everybody here agrees that we are not in Denver's league offensively. You on the other end is chirping about your defense is so good, no ?

I expect we will split with you. Nobody hear expected us to be at Denver's level this year,not even now.

But as others have said here already, Denver's offense is your team, it can be slowed down now and definitely stopped in the playoffs ( winter ).

I'm going to ask you now why I have the chance, will Denver win at Indy ? Luck can pass the ball too and Indy has a better D than Dallas does !

ROYC75 10-07-2013 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 10060964)
I don't think Smith passed for 300+ against the jags...

Didn't have too, our game plan didn't call for it when we were up and getting points in other ways.

Tombstone RJ 10-07-2013 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 10061011)
Now you are back tracking here, your comment was the secondary. Now it's team ?

I think you will find here that everybody here agrees that we are not in Denver's league offensively. You on the other end is chirping about your defense is so good, no ?

I expect we will split with you. Nobody hear expected us to be at Denver's level this year,not even now.

But as others have said here already, Denver's offense is your team, it can be slowed down now and definitely stopped in the playoffs ( winter ).

I'm going to ask you now why I have the chance, will Denver win at Indy ? Luck can pass the ball too and Indy has a better D than Dallas does !

No. I never once said that. Go back and read what I said. I do think the Broncos secondary, man-for-man and especially at the CB position is every bit as good if not better than kc's secondary. However, I do think kc's defense as a whole is better than the Broncos defense as a whole.

Tombstone RJ 10-07-2013 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 10061013)
Didn't have too, our game plan didn't call for it when we were up and getting points in other ways.

Smith has yet to pass for 300 yards and at some point and time in this season, maybe even against the faiders, he just might have to.

ROYC75 10-07-2013 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 10061021)
No. I never once said that. Go back and read what I said. I do think the Broncos secondary, man-for-man and especially at the CB position is every bit as good if not better than kc's secondary. However, I do think kc's defense as a whole is better than the Broncos defense as a whole.

Now it is , as good as KC's ?

Come on, you are flopping around like a fish out of water !

How about the question I asked, does Denver and Peyton go to Indy and win ?

Randallflagg 10-07-2013 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefaholic (Post 10060908)
While on the subject of good calls vs. no calls... Can one of you explain to this undereducated idiot exactly WHAT is a false start? When Peyton goes under center, then stands up and taps his linemen on the back and pointing out who the blitzers are, is THAT not a false start? If not that, then is it not a false start for his linemen to stand up from a three point stance and point at the guy who they feel is going to blitz? For the life of me, this crap pisses me off every time I've watched Manning play. I watch out guys get flagged for nothing more than a head bob, then watch these idiots damn near do jumping jacks with all the arm movement and it's never called. I don't claim to be an expert on the rules, so an explanation would be appreciated.

And I understand the NFL is a business and TV ratings are what determines how large their next contract is. Franchise QB's increase ratings, and casual / bandwagon fans aren't going to watch a game when their favorite player (not team) gets hurt. However, if the refs are going to call it one way, the same call should apply to every single team in the NFL.


Funny, but I have been wondering the same thing....I realize that I played College ball in the early 70s..but once in your three or four point stance you could not move.

Just wondering if there was a rule change that I missed?

Tombstone RJ 10-07-2013 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 10061043)
Now it is , as good as KC's ?

Come on, you are flopping around like a fish out of water !

How about the question I asked, does Denver and Peyton go to Indy and win ?

no, I'm remarkably consistent in what I'm saying, you just can't read. As for the Broncos winning at Indy sure, I think the Broncos can win every game. Now, will the Broncos win every game... I dunno about that. But I do know that kc will go undefeated so why even worry about the Broncos amirite?

ROYC75 10-07-2013 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 10061030)
Smith has yet to pass for 300 yards and at some point and time in this season, maybe even against the faiders, he just might have to.

Might have to ? I would say the 1st time we get way behind and have to revert to passing more in attempt to catch up.

As long as we can dictate the pace of the game, we don't have to have him attempt it.

Just because you can pass for many a yards is not always a winning formula.

Rausch 10-07-2013 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 10061055)
no, I'm remarkably consistent in what I'm saying, you just can't read. As for the Broncos winning at Indy sure, I think the Broncos can win every game. Now, will the Broncos win every game... I dunno about that. But I do know that kc will go undefeated so why even worry about the Broncos amirite?

If you think this place is full of homers with rosy views of the Chiefs you either can't read or you're a total moron...

King_Chief_Fan 10-07-2013 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 10060928)
Anyone else wanna smack tombstone around, or has pretty much everyone already had their turn?

LMAO

no fun........he is too easy a target. I just stand by and watch you guys

Pasta Little Brioni 10-07-2013 06:03 PM

Von is the only donco defender that would start for KC...Chump can't even get on the field and the rest got lit up like a Christmas tree.

ROYC75 10-07-2013 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 10061055)
no, I'm remarkably consistent in what I'm saying, you just can't read. As for the Broncos winning at Indy sure, I think the Broncos can win every game. Now, will the Broncos win every game... I dunno about that. But I do know that kc will go undefeated so why even worry about the Broncos amirite?

Really, what am I miss reading here ?



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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 10060829)
look who's talking lol! I said one thing, that the Broncos secondary is better than kc's, especially at the CB position and everyone hear is saying that I'm claiming the Broncos defense is better than kc's and I never said that at all! I've also pointed out that when other teams pass and pass and pass the ball it's going to skew the numbers.


Please explain!

mr. tegu 10-07-2013 06:17 PM

Peyton sour grapes
 
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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 10061021)
No. I never once said that. Go back and read what I said. I do think the Broncos secondary, man-for-man and especially at the CB position is every bit as good if not better than kc's secondary. However, I do think kc's defense as a whole is better than the Broncos defense as a whole.

No matter how many times you say this it isn't true. And you keep saying the opponents pass so much more against Denver. Teams have thrown 191 times against KC and 209 against Denver. That's a whole four extra pass attempts per game!

26% of the completions (15% of attempts) against Denver go for 20+ yards. But they are better in the secondary! LOL

ROYC75 10-07-2013 11:08 PM

Yo Tombstone .......no answer ?

aturnis 10-07-2013 11:31 PM

How about Moreno taking a knee with his hand on a Dallas players leg and the ruling stands after review? ****ing really?

aturnis 10-07-2013 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 10061064)
Von is the only donco defender that would start for KC...Chump can't even get on the field and the rest got lit up like a Christmas tree.

Well, one of their safeties has to be better than Kendrick Lewis. That's more a man at Lewis that a not to Donkeys.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-07-2013 11:35 PM

Ban knowmo

cdcox 10-07-2013 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 10059507)
I don't think the refs intentionally are biased toward one QB or another, but I do think that the elite QBs are able to get in the refs' heads a bit more when it comes to non-calls on roughing the passer plays. I can think of one time in particular when Tom Brady straight-up convinced the ref to throw the flag.

Aside from that though...it all evens out. Every team thinks that holding is always called against their OL and is never called against the other team.

I agree with this.

Fans are particularly unqualified to determine when there is a bias against their team. For example, there were several people griping in the game thread that the announcers were biased against the Chiefs. The play-by-play guy was Kevin Harlan, who was the voice of the Chiefs from 1985-1993.

Discuss Thrower 10-08-2013 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 10062711)
I agree with this.

Fans are particularly unqualified to determine when there is a bias against their team. For example, there were several people griping in the game thread that the announcers were biased against the Chiefs. The play-by-play guy was Kevin Harlan, who was the voice of the Chiefs from 1985-1993.

Yeah and most of the time he and Wilcots sounded like the Titans radio call. Mainly Wilcots.

Backwards Masking 10-08-2013 06:24 AM

when in the pocket, Pey Pey's allowed to throw the ball to no one in the middle of the field without an intentional grounding penalty to avoid a sack

the other 31 QB's are not

that rule is #1 reason the broncos "won" the game and are 5-0. has nothing to do with the fact that actually deserve to be 5-0


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