The WCO is a complex system and the redzone is about the last thing that normal clicks. Despite was idiots around here say, it's about more than just the QB.

The offense has shown improvement corresponding with the improvement of our Oline. The redzone depends even more on the TE and ours are weak. Our offense is pretty dam good when our WRs catch the ball and our Oline doesn't commit penalties. Both are not on the QB.

People used to say Alex Smith couldn't throw it deep as well and now he is doing it just fine.

For some reason I was thinking you had joined just a couple of years ago. My bad.

I didn't start posting a lot until I started working from home a few years ago.

Before that, I worked in an extremely IT-controlled environment that locked sites such as this one away. (Such is life at huge corporate entities, though).

I the both of you are right.

Alex Smith has proven time and again he is team first.

Actually, he throws a very tight intermediate to deep ball. The WCO relies a lot on the TE in the red zone. That has been an area with injuries for us this season. Plus our WR's must be in shock that balls are actually on target and they are expected to catch them.

Kudo's to DJ, duncan, BossChief, and the others that made this a great thread!

I'm going to have to side with BossChief and DJ on this topic. Alex's history has shown that he will improve in season two. Moreso if we can get him more weapons on offense such as a WR that gets separation and can keep a solid TE on the field.

Alex should be extended this offseason. Someone else already said it, Alex just wants to feel wanted somewhere and I believe a new contract will increase his dedication (not that he needs to) to work towards elite QB play. He will not break the bank. He is extremely intelligent from what I have read about him and just needs the right pieces in place so that he can get them the ball to make plays.

Year two should be exciting! This offseason will be about getting a playmaker or two on offense and depth at all positions. I look for us to grab a FS through FA if one is available unless Commings steps up.

against shitty pass defenses to boot

Maybe but the seasons not over. His play in the next four games could make a difference in weather or not we should sign him long term. I'm pulling for him though.

That's not why you're extending him.

You're extending him because over his last 61 NFL games he's thrown over 1100 passes and with those passes he managed a line of:

80 TDs/38 INTs
QB Rating of 87.5
Completion% of 61.5
Y/A of 6.8

And if you look at what he's done this season, he's pretty damn close to that across the board. His TD/INT is a little higher, YPG is a little higher, completion% and Y/A a little lower and QB rating is almost exactly the same. None of those figures are amazing, but they're figures a bunch of teams in this league would love to get from their QB. They're absolutely figures you can win a championship with, especially if he comes cheap enough to extend and surround him with elite supplemental talent we already have.

In other words, Alex Smith is exactly who he appears to be. The guy we have this year is his baseline. Smith's shown a history of improving the longer he's in a system, so there's reason to believe he'll be even a little bit better next season.

But that's not even your gamble. Your gamble is that he'll be no worse as he plays through his prime QB years than he has been over his last 60+ NFL games and 1000+ NFL attempts. If he's no worse than that, he's absolutely worth a reasonable contract extension. Waiting another year is presumably done out of caution; the worry that he'll suddenly crater. I don't see the argument - he's established his baseline.

The risk/reward favors extending him before his walk year, IMO. There's a far greater likelihood of him improving on this year's performance than there is a likelihood of him falling below the baseline he's set over the past 5 seasons as an NFL starting quarterback.

So much Alex love in this thread-lol

STFU.

you bitched about every one that didn't love the smith move for months, then flipped after one game.

that game was ONE WEEK after you made a thread here proclaiming the raiders game "THE BEST CHIEFS GAME EVER!!!!!!OMG!!!!!"


no one wants to hear anything from your dumbass about this

It's not Alex love. It's Alex honesty. The fact is that having a veteran QB who will not lose the game is a valuable commodity. So much so that veteran backup QBs who might never see the field for a single snap are paid up to $4-$5 million a year.

If that QB could then go out as a starter for a full season and win you a playoff game, he is easily worth a couple more million on top of that. There just aren't that many guys who can be a successful, starting NFL qb.

It also comes down to finding that sweet spot of a contract that neither hamstrings your salary cap nor prevents the team from actively seeking to improve at the QB position.

If they give him a 5 year, $50 million contract (which they probably will), then I'll be pissed.

If it's four years for $25 million, I'll be elated.

The funny thing is that Alex Smith haters should PRAY he gets his contract extended this year. A) It starts the countdown on him getting replaced sooner, and B) Think how big of a contract he'll get NEXT offseason if we go to the playoffs and win in back to back years. HUGE contract then.

If you'll be pissed about 5/$50, you're not going to happy about much.

An NFL starting QB for $10 million is a steal. You think he'd take a pay cut on a long term deal?

Look at the market and look at what Smith can do. If we can get him at 5/$50, you're talking realistically about something like 4/38 - you'd be crazy to pass on that.

Hell, everyone but Alex would be elated at that. Dude ain't taking a massive pay cut.

He's getting $10-12 a year, no doubt about it.

Hopefully, it's for 2 years and not 5.

Or if it is for 5, they can get out of it cheaply after 2.

My concern is that we're going to be stuck for 4-5 years, since Andy has a giant boner for Alex.

this.

One positive about Andy he does plan for the future at QB.

The draft will be loaded with QB's but the same people that kept the Alex sucks thread going for 8 months now want to give him a big extension-lol

If he has a bad game in the playoffs- that Alex sucks thread will be back.

Yep I agree.

He still has two years left on his deal. I wouldn't touch it until next year unless we need cap relief.

If it were anyone but these guys, I'd probably agree...but Andy and John have been part of teams that have found a way to move on from quarterbacks that aren't effective pretty fast.

John was part of a GB brain trust that not only drafted Rodgers, but jettisoned Brett Favre at the right time as well.

Andy loved McNabb, until he traded him.
Andy loved Kolb, until he traded him.
Andy loved Vick, until he benched him for a third round pick rookie a little over a year after giving Vick a 100 million dollar contract.

I'm not worried too much about these guys being so in love with Alex that they keep starting him Cassel style to the point he is applauded when he goes down to injury.

The only way Alex keeps his job long term, is to earn it.

And rightfully so.

are you talking about yourself here?

because that's exactly what you have done but the other way

Yes, he does.

21 tds so far.

Absolutely.

Chiefs have the least amount of Turnovers I the league.

Shut the **** up, you're not even a Chiefs fan. Idiot.

this

:clap:

Mav IMAX not be a chief fan but he's a good dude

probably, but he's going to catch it for the ones he brought with him. like the obnoxious ****er in the game thread

I don't have to be a Chiefs fan, to have an appreciation for the PLAYER, and hope that he gets long term security, and the chance to be a franchise qb, in a place he is playing well, with a coach that REALLY LIKES AND RESPECTS HIM, now do I?

How do his balls taste? Can you let us know?

Whoa Whoa. I was OUTCASTED. I brought NO one here.

surely he can

yeah, bullshit. they followed you. you told them where you were at. attention whore

LOLz.

I still like you Jason, no matter how much you dislike me, you make me laugh.

I don't dislike you dude.

Look at all the thugs in the stands

Yes

The hell I did. How could I have?

Kaepernick told them where I was.

you had multiple accounts there dude, you posted there after posting here.


you brought the ****ers.


no convincing me otherwise

At least the bullshit Patriots fans didn't try to claim they were Chiefs fans.

while I did have another account there, they didn't know who I was.

And, Kaepernick, made the thread with the link here. Not me, but I will take the blame. No big deal.

yep, we didn't have to hear about this being "their" team...

This.

its forever on you

Not sure your point. Im an Alex Smith GUY.

My screen name, was ALEX SMITH FAN.

I like the Chiefs, fun team, I watch them, I support them. But, im an Alex Smith guy.

Im a browns fan, who just happens to really like Alex Smith.

I watch the Browns, and Chiefs, and keep a distant eye on the 49ers. Didn't even watch their game today. I don't care. I do care how the Chiefs do.

Ill take it.

Along with the other things that I said would happen for the Chiefs by adding Alex Smith. Ill take all of that too.

That's not a thing, you know.

yeah al those things aren't from smith, even though hes played better of late

Hmmmm.

I only said he would do two things.

Not lose games, and not turn the ball over.

Im as shocked as anyone at his play the last 4 weeks.

I start my own things....

Its kind of a independent organization lol

Um.

How about NOW?

That's 5!

Today is a great day for Alex for sure but I still want to see a playoff game before I say yes to this

I like this guy a little better every single game, dude is steady eddie.

He's had those with San Fran. So I guess he's still no good until he does it in a Chiefs uni?

Hes even impressing me.

His 23-6 td to int ratio, is RIDICULOUS.

Alex is getting better every game. He's improved 100 fold since game 1. He is calm and makes good decisions. He should absolutely be re-signed IMO.

**** Alex Smith. He should be fired right now.

And then he does that still having a good day overall though

OH YES GIVE THAT GUY AN EXTENSION HE DOESN'T TURN THE BALL OVER

He wouldn't be playing with the guys he played with in San Fran so I don't really look at that. I just want to see what he does with this team. He has been looking real good as of late

No, wait and see.

That isn't supposed to be literal it is relative. He has rarely given it up.

Ignore him. Hes so stupid that on a day that Alex Smith throws for 5 touchdowns, he would have the gall to pipe up because Alex fumbled.

Wow, that's a whopping 7 times he has turned the ball over in 14 games.

Eli threw 5 INTS today.

The raiders have 7 turnovers which is as many as Alex Smith has all season.

Gotta really watch who you respond to. He was mule kicked repeatedly.

They have to find something to bitch about

Still hasn't had a 300 yard game. 3 screen pass touchdowns, he gets the stats but come on I wouldn't be crowing about those too much.

The wheel route was a nice ballsy touchdown throw and throwing to Duck Dynasty was great play though.

Playmakers in space. Its what Im sure that Andy envisioned when coming here.

Same things he did with Westbrook, and Shady McCoy.

Guy throws for 5 tds and we are already discounting some of them.

They only count if they are into triple coverage at the end of the game.

They have to otherwise they would just have to admit they are dumbasses

The fact that he has a career high in TDS, on this offense is impressive.

He went all of October, without a td pass.

He is itching back up towards 90+ on the rating, will set a career high in yards, while keeping his ints down.

I have no idea why anyone would say anything other than Alex Smith has been a really good qb at worst this year.

And he is still 20th QB in the league.

Your opinion, and people of your ilks opinion alone.

Alex Smith is a top 15 at worst qb in the league.

Hes better than Kaepernick, hes better than Flacco, hes better than Dalton, any other afc east qb other than brady.

There aren't 5 qbs in the Afc that I would take over Alex Smith.

Andrew, Phillip, Peyton and Tom would be about the only ones at this point you could HONESTLY say you would.

I could argue against every other single one.

Who besides in the NFC other than Drew, Cam, Foles, Romo, Russell, Rodgers, would you honestly say THIS YEAR, that you would take over Alex Smith?

Seriously....are you that much against Smith that unless he is the next coming of Montana you will find a reason to bash him?

Andy Reid is going to give him one. After losing with a turnover machine like Vick and winning with a guy like Smith, no way Reid let's Smith get away.

He boxed himself into that corner back when Alex was traded for.

He cant turn now. I respect his resolve.

He has several games above 280 with a ton of drops and he had 287 in 3 quarters today. Why is 300 such a magical number especially on a team with a top 3 running back and that has blown out their opponents so bad the last 2 weeks that Smith was pulled early in the 4th quarter? Some of you people are ridiculous.

Why should he. Again, objectively, if you use a little logic, and say, with another year with Andy Reid, getting more weapons, more continuity on the team, the fact that for the 4th year in a row, ALEX SMITH has continued to get better, and better, I agree completely.

Dude. Literally a quarter of his TD's came in one game. How many games did he throw 0? One game does not make a season. Also 3 of his TD's being on screens with HUGE YAC does matter. Hell, Charles had to one hand one of them b/c Alex completely missed it.

Says the bundle of sticks who is a Cleveland Brown fan. I mean 49er fan. Oh wait I'm a Alex Smith fan - Go Chiefs.