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He really needs to amp up his game in my opinion to where he is throwing 30 td's a year for us to really become a championship threat. |
My guess is that we'll see a 5 year extention for the average of top 15 to top 10 QBs.
Right now he's earning something like 9 Mil APY and he's middle of the pack. So 10-15 with a 5 year contract wouldn't surprise me. He could probably get more, but I think Alex isn't after the $ but the respect and wants to be shown a long term commitment. |
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Isn't Thomas (TE, Denver) a free agent? I thought I heard that, and that he may not be back with them as they think they have 2 young (& cheap) guys behind him that they can do fine with. I'm sure they'll want to devote as much as they can to improve their defense. |
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Elite quarterbacks don't grow on trees.
There are maybe 5 of them in the entire NFL. Smith played out of his mind on Saturday. 65% completion rate, 378 passing yards, 57 rushing yards, 4 TD's, and a passer rating of 119+. That's basically an unimpeachable playoff performance. Extend him, yesterday. |
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As much as I hate breaking up an orgy. It was one game and a game where he only mustered 6 points while the other team scored 35 for a duration. He could ot even extend drives to chew up clock although I know the weapons at hand were lack luster at the time. While he did flash some Rich Gannon like creativity and play making ability at times I'm still concerned about his down field accuracy. The one bomb was Avery beating a gimped up CB by more then 5 yards and he had to be taken out of the game because of injury.
Let's also not forget it was 1 game. Elvis Grbac once threw for 500 yards in 1 game. Kelly Holcomb once threw for 430 and 3 TD's in the playoffs against the Steelers defense. I'm still on the fence with him right now. I'd like to have seen a little bit more of that 1st half in the other 16 games this year. I guess all you can do is try to get better weapons and see what happens next year, but in no way to you lock yourself in to a long term deal here. Keep looking for that next superstar in the draft and if Alex takes the next step to top 10 type QB then you have a nice problem to have if you have 2 guys on the roster you can roll with. In an ideal world you'd like to have him play it out next year with a better supporting cast and see how it goes before giving him another contract, but I just don't think that's going to be an option. |
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Although, I've got no idea what the hell I'm talking about. |
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I'm going to put you in a championship fight, but before you start, I'm gonna blind fold you and tie your right hand behind your back.. What kind of result did you expect from the team when those guys all went down. Alex was pretty much the reason that there was a game to watch. |
While watching the game I heard one of the the announcers talking about him being a game manager and then he had to take his foot out mouth after Alex flicked a shovel pass to Sherman. He sounded like a bunch of morons on here. He continues to prove everyone wrong but talking heads in the media sway so many people that it's not even funny. I heard some dumb Niner fans say that Kap won the game with his feet and arm yesterday and that Alex could not do that. I guess they didn't watch his game against the Colts.
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Smith played outstanding really. Definitely good enough to win most games. He nearly had 5 TDs if Bowe could have gotten in on the long catch and run.
I don't even think the intentional grounding hurts his status much because the only other option was to take a sack and be 3rd and 15 instead of 17. He's a keeper. Posted via Mobile Device |
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Yes Alex Missed Gray nothing we can do. Asking him to play perfect for the whole game is crazy it never happens. All QB mess up doing the game. This is 100% on the D 4 TD drives under 2 mins each.
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I don't understand the play calling, still. I mean WTF you are almost in FG range why run any play with a chance of taking a sack. ****, still pissed. |
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Smith played a stretch where his team was out scored 35-6, yet luck played a stretch where his team was out scored 38-10.
Would it have made some of you feel better if the halves had been switched? Jesus Christ. The guy put up 400 yards of offense and carried an offense to 44 points. Something I was told he absolutely couldn't do. If you wanna extend the guy, do it now. If you wait, and he plays a full year next year like he did the last half of this year, you're gonna have to overpay |
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Alex Smith should keep his options open. For the 2nd winningest QB behind Manning in the last 3-4 years, he sure takes a lot of shit from his fanbase (see this website as an example).
KC Chiefs started winning and a portion of their fans acted like they were all of a sudden too good for him to be their QB (while WINNING, mind you). Now look at you, half his weapons get injured and he puts on nearly record-breaking wildcard numbers. Alex should do what he wants, but this forum/team is laughable with how quickly they became snotnosed. I say, Alex should keep his options open and get the fattest check he can, he deserves it. You guys don't deserve jack shit. |
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Extend Smith and lock up our playoff chances for the next few years as soon as possible |
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You go more conservative in the second half when there is a huge lead. Nature of the NFL and coaching. Put that on Andy. |
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Something seriously wrong with the Browns...it's a black hole of a team. Sorry Mav. |
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Warner didnt play for the Browns but he was on the Packers with Andy Reid, who was part of the evaluators that let him go, lol
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I may be mis-remembering though. |
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Smith made mistakes no doubt about it. Luck made more. In this "offensive league" 2 games the entire season had the losing team over 40 points. That's less the 1% of the games. There are 256 NFL games in the season. 2/256 is 0.008% and I rounded up. That's how often teams lose putting up 40 points. Alex Smith is the first QB in the history of the NFL to lose a playoff game throwing 4tds with no picks. Again less then 1% of the time. Alex Smith proved he is the right QB for this team going forward. Build around him. But the time is now to extend him. |
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Man he had Anthony Fasano wide open in the middle of field. You go to him not the 3rd RB.
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I think everyone understands that if it is Charles, or Davis, that is a TD. Shrugs. |
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Actually Grey admitted that he slowed down mid route but whatever. We didn't lose because of that play. We lost because the defense couldn't force a single punt with a 4 TD lead..
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Paying Alex Smith after this last playoff game against a Colts secondary on its last legs would certainly be an example of buying high. I would offer him a fair contract based on how he performed this previous season, but I don't see what the harm is in waiting another season. There is no bad scenario in waiting. If he plays like a superstar the Chiefs will win a lot of games and he will have earned whatever money we have to pay to keep him happy. |
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We were up 28 with just under 20 minutes to go. The defense was at fault (and by defense, I mean Dunta Robinson and Kendrick Lewis) for the loss, but playcallng and time management played a big role, too. |
Hell, once it became clear the defense was a sieve, they should've had McCluster run around behind the LOS or run a hook and lateral type move just to burn as much clock as possible.
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As I watched Smith under Harbaugh, I saw a mediocre, albeit efficient game manager, whose conservative approach could best described as playing scared. He showed a flash of what he was capable of in that Saints playoff game, which I said at time might be the spark to him playing to his franchise potential. But that was his only flash in those 2 years. Through the first half of this season, I saw the same guy. However, over the latter stages of this season, he flashed more. There were 4 or 5 games after the bye where I, and others who shared my same opinion of Smith, said that this Smith is a QB we can win. What we saw on Saturday, I believe, the evolution process of Smith from the scared, risk averse game manager to the confident passer with playmaking ability that Reid envisioned when they traded for him. I just don't believe that Reid allows him to regress. |
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He finished the season with his best game not only of the season but of his CAREER. He's not going to sign for peanuts, he's going to garner a pretty sizable contract. That's my concern. |
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You can argue about the validity of if Gray did or did not slow it down a bit, but if he gets a free release, he probably is in perfect position to catch it. Also notice how early he starts looking back for the ball. Having his head and shoulders partially turned would also slow him down a bit. Lastly, he's not a full time receiver- and probably not experienced with laying out for a catch like that. It's not certain he'd come up with it and be able to secure the ball going to the ground, but as a RB, that instinct isn't ingrained in him. |
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For a play that depends completely on timing, it's not a surprise it didn't connect. |
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Do you extend now, of wait another year? If what we've seen over the latter half of the season, and in the playoff game is the preview, then waiting is going to cost is hell of a lot more. I think an extension now is worth the risk. Probably shorter, less expensive, and easier to get out of. |
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Of course a large contingent would be irate at locking him in for like 4-5 years, but it would be a windfall down the road when we have him in a very cap friendly number and a lot more room to work with in cap space. The NFL revenue is simply jumping hand over fist, and 1 thing that is certain is there's no way QB contracts aren't going to take a leap over the next 3-5 years! |
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Agreed- sign him now it will cost more next year--like it or not this is our QB going foreward and I think he's not only a smart choice but a good one. |
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I'm guessing you've never seen the numbers on how many Super Bowls are won by QBs on their 2nd or 3rd contracts? |
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Just gonna put this here. 3rd and goal play. With Charles it's a TD With Davis it's a FG. |
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I'm not confident in anybody, or anything, associated with the Kansas City Chiefs. |
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