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TambaBerry 05-15-2014 08:26 PM
Ya I'm excited to come out there, more then likely going to move, this is basically like a scouting trip.

Randallflagg 05-15-2014 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 10632059)
Labeling an entire city as something is just not possible in Phoenix. There are way too many bad/nice pockets in every city, including Scottsdale (south Scottsdale). We live just north of Avondale and while I would say the majority (>50%) of Avondale is not desirable (most south of the 1-10), there are great communities that make up north Avondale and the area we are in which is Litchfield Park, located just north/east of Avondale.

Finding a house should be decided by your commute most likely. Before we moved to Phoenix everyone suggested Chandler/Gilbert but we both had jobs in the West Valley. Unless you like spending hours in the car and hundreds of extra dollars in gas, looking for something that fits your budget that isn't a far commute can be done in every part of the valley. I would never suggest to anyone who hasn't been to Phoenix to completely cross off an entire city in Phoenix from the list. Just explore the good areas for what you want/can afford that is relatively close to work. My wife and I each commute 30 minutes each way because we wanted to live in Litchfield Park.

Budget has a lot to do with it too. Our friends bought a house in south Scottsdale in 2012 while we just bought 4 months ago here in 2014. They paid 20k more, for 500 less sq/ft, for a house that is 50 years older and doesn't have a pool. They've had major problems with the house but wanted to be in Scottsdale but couldn't afford anything more than something in South Scottsdale. They valued central location, while we valued house/space, schools and less crime.

Message to the OP. Explore every area you can. Phoenix is unique in that you can find great/bad things in all parts of the valley and in every city. Everyone wants to bash on the West Valley because in large part, the bad pockets of Phoenix are on the west side. But until you see how gigantic the valley area is, there really is no need to worry once you know the location of these areas. They make up a much smaller portion of the city than people realize.
That was my point. I lived in GoodYear and Avondale back in the early 60s - they were damn fine cities back then. But, like anything else, the times change. Funny thing - My Sister had a good friend that lived in Scottsdale (back then) that was Dean Martin's hair dresser. That was back in the day when the folks from Hollyweird kept houses there....

eDave 05-15-2014 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by dingleberry (Post 10632410)
Ya I'm excited to come out there, more then likely going to move, this is basically like a scouting trip.
Do yourself a favor and eat at Pinnacle Peak Patio. Mammoth steaks, cooked over an open fire (outside). Old west vibe. Iconic Phoenix restaurant. Overlooking the city lights. On a summer night it is fantastic. If you are bringing the kid, there is a shoot out ala Tombstone, can dress up as old west and have a 'vintage' photo taken and some shit to look at.

If you wear a tie, they will cut if off and hang it from the ceiling. There are thousands of ties hanging in there, everywhere.

They just sold out to a real estate developer as it sits on PRIME real estate so it will be closing, but not before July.

Do not let this opportunity pass you by. It's in N. Scottsdale.

Chiefs Pantalones 05-15-2014 09:27 PM
Where should we live if we decide Overland Park? We'll likely rent first then look for a house but anything we should look out for or go for?

Why Not? 05-15-2014 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BiStateNo (Post 10632407)
I haven't been out there (Scottsdale) to see my Brother in probably 10 years or so but I recall it being fairly nice. He and his Wife make in the 6 figures each year - so I don't get the $30,000 millionaire thing, but I'm sure that there are a lot of poseurs there.

Hell, look at OP and Olathe - I would say that there might be the same vibe in both OP and Olathe ( funny, I live in Olathe......)
Just Google Scottsdale sucks.com. It will explain way better than I could

TambaBerry 05-16-2014 03:13 PM
Maricopa good or bad area?

eDave 05-16-2014 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by dingleberry (Post 10633602)
Maricopa good or bad area?
No. Just no. I cannot, in good conscious, recommend Maricopa. Way south. Not part of Phoenix. Cheap though and semi small town.

But by all means, check it out. It might be right for you. ****ed commute for all parties though.

lewdog 05-16-2014 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by dingleberry (Post 10633602)
Maricopa good or bad area?
Yea you don't want that IMO.

lewdog 05-16-2014 03:31 PM
Hey Dingle, do you know where either of you will be working or are you just looking at areas right now to get a feel for them?

Why Not? 05-16-2014 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by dingleberry (Post 10633602)
Maricopa good or bad area?
Um, pass on that.

Chiefs Pantalones 05-16-2014 04:18 PM
So pretty much live wherever you want as long as the commute isn't a pain? If we choose Phoenix what are good places in north Phoenix you guys would recommend? And so Scottsdale is a safe place just not the south side?

TambaBerry 05-16-2014 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 10633636)
Hey Dingle, do you know where either of you will be working or are you just looking at areas right now to get a feel for them?
Well, my wife will be staying at home. I have an interview at PayPal at 101 and 202 connect. One at a place in Mesa, I've had a phone interview. So mainly in that southwest part of Phoenix.

eDave 05-16-2014 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 10633702)
So pretty much live wherever you want as long as the commute isn't a pain? If we choose Phoenix what are good places in north Phoenix you guys would recommend? And so Scottsdale is a safe place just not the south side?
Scottsdale is cool from Old Town on up. The principalities around Scottsdale are all great. Mid north is "OK". Going west it gets a bit rougher, and cheaper, but closer to Cards games (whatever).

Come on out man. As big as this city is, I meet KC transplants all the time. Just did last weekend at a house party. We were neighbors FFS. Just look at how many of us are here. I always felt it was big city Overland Park.

And when you do move and you have that pool; Aeration my friend. Night time aeration. You are welcome.

eDave 05-16-2014 04:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dingleberry (Post 10633728)
Well, my wife will be staying at home. I have an interview at PayPal at 101 and 202 connect. One at a place in Mesa, I've had a phone interview. So mainly in that southwest part of Phoenix.
I'm telling you, Ahwatukee is the shit. At least check it out. Mesa is just a highway shot and not part of the standard rush hour traffic patterns. Honestly, I've never bitched about traffic here when I was commuting. I work from home now. As someone said, get that kind of gig. Phoenix is pretty techno. A lot of organizations support WAH.

Off I-10 (south) exit right on Chandler Blvd and follow that until you hit a 3 way stop. Take a left which will keep you on Chandler. If you go straight you will be on Ray Rd.

Anyway, follow Chandler till the end and take it all in. Greatest just before dusk as the sun is setting behind S. Mountain.

SAUTO 05-16-2014 04:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eDave (Post 10633731)
Scottsdale is cool from Old Town on up. The principalities around Scottsdale are all great. Mid north is "OK". Going west it gets a bit rougher but closer to Cards games (whatever).

Come on out man. As big as this city is, I meet KC transplants all the time. Just did last weekend at a house party. We were neighbors FFS. Just look at how many of us are here. I always felt it was big city Overland Park.

And when you do move and you have that pool; Aeration my friend. Night time aeration. You are welcome.
Farting in the pool? Gross.
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TambaBerry 05-16-2014 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 10633738)
I'm telling you, Ahwatukee is the shit. At least check it out.

Off I-10 (south) exit right on Chandler Blvd and follow that until you hit a 3 way stop. Take a left which will keep you on Chandler. If you go straight you will be on Ray Rd.

Anyway, follow Chandler till the end and take it all in. Greatest just before dusk as the sun is setting behind S. Mountain.
Ya I'll for sure check that out. I love that the mountain or foothill whatever is right there.

eDave 05-16-2014 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 10633743)
Farting in the pool? Gross.
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Stick to cars man. ;)

BWillie 05-16-2014 04:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dingleberry (Post 10633602)
Maricopa good or bad area?
What's so bad about it? Wikipedia says Maricopa has higher household income of like 66k compared to 70k in Scottsdale.

eDave 05-16-2014 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 10633751)
What's so bad about it? Wikipedia says Maricopa has higher household income of like 66k compared to 70k in Scottsdale.
Well, the $70K in Scottsdale is representative of the $30K millionaires referenced earlier. But as someone else said, there's a lot of money here too. Tons. But the multi-million dollar homes are usually bought through trusts and such, which isn't reported in those averages.

$66K for Maricopa may be true, but it doesn't show. And unless you are working there, it's an hour + commute to anywhere.

The rush hour traffic from Maricopa into Phoenix is just stupid. But, ironically, not bad going home.

Chiefs Pantalones 05-16-2014 04:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eDave (Post 10633731)
Scottsdale is cool from Old Town on up. The principalities around Scottsdale are all great. Mid north is "OK". Going west it gets a bit rougher, and cheaper, but closer to Cards games (whatever).

Come on out man. As big as this city is, I meet KC transplants all the time. Just did last weekend at a house party. We were neighbors FFS. Just look at how many of us are here. I always felt it was big city Overland Park.

And when you do move and you have that pool; Aeration my friend. Night time aeration. You are welcome.
Lol I feel like I'm being recruited. I'd work in north Phoenix. If you had to choose between Anthem or north Scottsdale which would you choose? Or some place else you'd recommend for safety first folks lol.

eDave 05-16-2014 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 10633769)
Lol I feel like I'm being recruited. I'd work in north Phoenix. If you had to choose between Anthem or north Scottsdale which would you choose? Or some place else you'd recommend for safety first folks lol.
North Scottsdale without hesitation. Though Anthem will be cheaper and you will have a drive through the desert every day. Break bad dude.

TambaBerry 05-16-2014 04:59 PM
Ok having trouble deciding on a hotel, looking at holiday inn phoenix-mesa, Courtyard by Marriot Phoenix west/avondale, and scottsdale links resort.

Chiefs Pantalones 05-16-2014 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 10633772)
North Scottsdale without hesitation. Though Anthem will be cheaper and you will have a drive through the desert every day. Break bad dude.
I'm all about cheap lol. This is a tight race. KC or Phoenix. Maybe I should do the hats when we decide.

TambaBerry 05-16-2014 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 10633790)
I'm all about cheap lol. This is a tight race. KC or Phoenix. Maybe I should do the hats when we decide.
dude just move out west

eDave 05-16-2014 05:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 10633790)
I'm all about cheap lol. This is a tight race. KC or Phoenix. Maybe I should do the hats when we decide.
It's not a big difference. Anthem is a longer commute. Math will resolve that crisis. Gas is expensive all over.

EDIT: I misread your comment. When I moved out here in 2001, I really didn't notice a cost of living increase. If you are from KC, you really should lean towards Phoenix. New and exciting and opens new world (Vegas, LA, PS, Mexico), new attitude and a new way of life.

Chiefs Pantalones 05-16-2014 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by dingleberry (Post 10633795)
dude just move out west
Lol it's too close right now. We'd be happy with either but KC kinda comes back in front because of my teams lol.

eDave 05-16-2014 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 10633805)
Lol it's too close right now. We'd be happy with either but KC kinda comes back in front because of my teams lol.
Curious, does she feel the same way?

Katipan 05-16-2014 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 10633805)
Lol it's too close right now. We'd be happy with either but KC kinda comes back in front because of my teams lol.
5 hours to see them in SD, 10 in Oakland, 12 in Denver. And the Royals have a pretty spring training park.

dude just move out west

eDave 05-16-2014 05:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Katipan (Post 10633810)
5 hours to see them in SD, 10 in Oakland, 12 in Denver. And the Royals have a pretty spring training park.

dude just move out west
Chiefs visit AZ this year too.

A fraternity brother of mine had a Chiefs bar at the Sheraton in Mesa with a breakfast buffet. Always a good time. Don't know if he still has it though. There's a Huskers bar 1/2 mile from me (whatever)

PS: We have In-N-Out. There's the KC deal breaker.

Chiefs Pantalones 05-16-2014 05:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eDave (Post 10633809)
Curious, does she feel the same way?
Lol yes. She's not from KC but she loves it there. She thinks it's pretty, cheap, likes the people, etc. Not because of teams like me lol.

Chiefs Pantalones 05-16-2014 05:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Katipan (Post 10633810)
5 hours to see them in SD, 10 in Oakland, 12 in Denver. And the Royals have a pretty spring training park.

dude just move out west
Lol it's an option.

TambaBerry 05-16-2014 08:33 PM
Well just booked our trip

ping2000 05-16-2014 09:01 PM
I just watched the Royals tonight. Move to Phoenix. You won't miss the Royals.

TambaBerry 05-16-2014 09:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ping2000 (Post 10634252)
I just watched the Royals tonight. Move to Phoenix. You won't miss the Royals.
:LOL:

eDave 05-17-2014 01:51 PM
Today:

Temp - 103
Humidity - 13%
UV Index - 10 - Very high

Why Not? 05-17-2014 01:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eDave (Post 10635017)
Today:

Temp - 103
Humidity - 13%
UV Index - 10 - Very high
Feels good. Can't wait to hit the pool this afternoon !

lewdog 05-17-2014 02:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eDave (Post 10635017)
Today:

Temp - 103
Humidity - 13%
UV Index - 10 - Very high
Margs by the pool time.

lewdog 05-17-2014 05:46 PM
edave, I thought you said you were leaving Phoenix soon as you were tired of it?

TambaBerry 05-17-2014 05:56 PM
Trip is booked for July

eDave 05-17-2014 06:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 10635347)
edave, I thought you said you were leaving Phoenix soon as you were tired of it?
Indeed. Bit of a delay though.

Time to live by the ocean for a while. Then onto Seattle I think.

MahiMike 05-17-2014 09:01 PM
I applaud anyone that uproots and sees other parts of this country. Life is short. Live it.

TambaBerry 05-17-2014 10:57 PM
So, I want to turn this into a what do I have to see/do in Phoenix when we visit?

Why Not? 05-18-2014 01:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dingleberry (Post 10636013)
So, I want to turn this into a what do I have to see/do in Phoenix when we visit?
Your hotel pool. It's July.

TambaBerry 05-18-2014 04:30 PM
Is North Phoenix a bad place to work?

Why Not? 05-18-2014 05:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dingleberry (Post 10637136)
Is North Phoenix a bad place to work?
North Phoenix is pretty good from my limited experiences there.

lewdog 05-18-2014 05:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dingleberry (Post 10637136)
Is North Phoenix a bad place to work?
Yea it's fine. You're working there, not living there anyway.

SAUTO 05-18-2014 05:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 10637319)
Yea it's fine. Your working there, not living there anyway.
GODDAMMIT LEW IT'S YOU'RE, GIT IT RIGHT.
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LoneWolf 05-18-2014 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 10637319)
Yea it's fine. You're working their, not living they're anyway.
FYP so Sauto will get off you're ass. :D

lewdog 05-18-2014 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 10637334)
GODDAMMIT LEW IT'S YOU'RE, GIT IT RIGHT.
Posted via Mobile Device
Wow, I usually don't miss those. I hate when people use the wrong your/you're and then/than.

Thanks for keeping me honest.

TambaBerry 05-18-2014 06:43 PM
What is the cable tv options like their?

Chiefs Pantalones 05-18-2014 06:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dingleberry (Post 10637454)
What is the cable tv options like their?
DirecTV. Get NFLST to see the Chiefs you dingleberry ;)

lewdog 05-18-2014 07:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dingleberry (Post 10637454)
What is the cable tv options like their?
I have DTV.

Other options are Century Link and Cox. I've heard horror stories from both.

Why Not? 05-18-2014 09:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 10637461)
DirecTV. Get NFLST to see the Chiefs you dingleberry ;)
This x 50 millions

ragedogg69 05-19-2014 05:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dingleberry (Post 10637136)
Is North Phoenix a bad place to work?
I live in North Phoenix. It's nice. One weird thing in Phoenix is you can have it go from high end expensive neighborhoods to nearly ghetto from one street light to the next.

TambaBerry 05-25-2014 01:36 PM
Question, I just received a job offer in Casa Grande, about 30 miles south of phoenix how is that area? Would it be a terrible drive down there from gilbert/chandler area? Would Casa Grande be a good place to live?

Rain Man 05-25-2014 01:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dingleberry (Post 10650048)
Question, I just received a job offer in Casa Grande, about 30 miles south of phoenix how is that area? Would it be a terrible drive down there from gilbert/chandler area? Would Casa Grande be a good place to live?
Casa Grande? Does that translate to 'big house'? Are you going to tell people that you're headed to the big house?

TambaBerry 07-14-2014 05:07 PM
I'll be there next week

eDave 07-14-2014 05:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dingleberry (Post 10746583)
I'll be there next week
Right on. 108 is the highest forecasted next week (Thursday).

Too early to tell yet, but we are in full blown monsoon season. Had flair ups over the last couple of days. Humidity at 48% tonight so we are locked and loaded again.

Make sure you check out the Ahwatukee area. Closer to Casa Grande, if you are still considering that. Chander, Gilbert, Mesa are just mundane.

TambaBerry 07-14-2014 06:13 PM
I can deal with 108

lewdog 07-14-2014 06:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dingleberry (Post 10746583)
I'll be there next week
It feels like shit here and not the usual feeling of 105, which when dry, feels plenty ok. But Monsoon season only lasts a few months.

Are you actually moving or just visiting when you come?

eDave 07-14-2014 06:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 10746684)
It feels like shit here and not the usual feeling of 105, which when dry, feels plenty ok. But Monsoon season only lasts a few months.

Are you actually moving or just visiting when you come?
No offense to you Lewdog regarding Mesa. Just too flat for my tastes.

thecoffeeguy 07-14-2014 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by dingleberry (Post 10746583)
I'll be there next week
I am there now, for the week....not to bad.

lewdog 07-14-2014 06:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eDave (Post 10746692)
No offense to you Lewdog regarding Mesa. Just too flat for my tastes.
I don't live in Mesa???

eDave 07-14-2014 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 10746716)
I don't live in Mesa???
Oh. Thought you did for some reason.

lewdog 07-14-2014 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 10746722)
Oh. Thought you did for some reason.
No, Litchfield Park.

eDave 07-14-2014 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 10746727)
No, Litchfield Park.
Well, I was WAY off. :)

lewdog 07-14-2014 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 10746733)
Well, I was WAY off. :)
Just a bit!

ROFL

I've got my bullet proof vest on out here on the west side. :D

TambaBerry 07-14-2014 06:49 PM
Visiting, still thinking about moving.

Why Not? 07-14-2014 07:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dingleberry (Post 10650048)
Question, I just received a job offer in Casa Grande, about 30 miles south of phoenix how is that area? Would it be a terrible drive down there from gilbert/chandler area? Would Casa Grande be a good place to live?
Had a buddy who lived in Gilbert and worked in Cass Grande. He always said the drive was no big deal

TambaBerry 07-23-2014 08:42 AM
Had a great time down there. The heat wasn't even bad. I think it was 111 yesterday. Serious about moving down there now. Probably going to happen by the end of the year.

Why Not? 07-23-2014 08:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dingleberry (Post 10761912)
Had a great time down there. The heat wasn't even bad. I think it was 111 yesterday. Serious about moving down there now. Probably going to happen by the end of the year.
Cool. Yeah we're actually having a mild summer, heat wise.

Chiefs Pantalones 07-23-2014 09:01 AM
I was on the fence about it but my family and I have decided to move back to KC. Better schools, living environment. The schools are awful in Phoenix. We enjoy the heat but not everything else. Plus, during my five years here, IMO the state of Arizona might as well be renamed to North Mexico. No difference.

TambaBerry 07-23-2014 09:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 10761949)
I was on the fence about it but my family and I have decided to move back to KC. Better schools, living environment. The schools are awful in Phoenix. We enjoy the heat but not everything else. Plus, during my five years here, IMO the state of Arizona might as well be renamed to North Mexico. No difference.
From my research I've done there are a few really good schools down there. Although a lot of bad ones from the research I've done.

Why Not? 07-23-2014 09:35 AM
There's no denying the school system sucks but there are a few gems, you just have to look around.

Marty Mac Ver 2.0 07-23-2014 11:12 PM
If you live in Gilbert, that drive to CG every day will eat you up. While it's all interstate, it's still an hour. Even if you take some back roads you might make it in 45-50 minutes. Casa Grande schools are not that great. Gilbert really, or South Chandler, are the two best parts. Ahwatukee is nice as well.

lewdog 07-26-2014 04:07 PM
Just saw this. Glad you like it. There are pros and cons everywhere you live. We found many more pros.

Where are you looking at living and working?

TambaBerry 07-26-2014 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 10768777)
Just saw this. Glad you like it. There are pros and cons everywhere you live. We found many more pros.

Where are you looking at living and working?
Looking at living in Gilbert, that's where we were and really liked it.

lewdog 07-26-2014 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by dingleberry (Post 10768835)
Looking at living in Gilbert, that's where we were and really liked it.
We have friends there and they like it as well.

I forget, do you have a job lined up for sure?

TambaBerry 07-26-2014 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 10768839)
We have friends there and they like it as well.

I forget, do you have a job lined up for sure?
I have one in Chandler and my wife has been looking in Gilbert.

vailpass 07-26-2014 07:38 PM
Come on in, the waters fine. Move in September, it'll start to cool off soon after and you'll ease into Valley living with the finest weather around...


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