This give me a lot of confidence in this season knowing Bob Sutton is leading the defense....

Wow, that was pretty ****ing worthless.

The 5th point wasn't even a point. LMAO What the hell.

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I really hope Allen gets his ass benched. I noticed virtually zero improvement from last year to this year in that preseason game

We're trading Chase DanielS. :thumb:

This. On the Smith fumble...Allen was getting his shit pushed in.

I hope the entire interior of our Oline gets switched up.

looks like we have several guys with the natural power to block without needing help all the time

I rewatched over the weekend, and actually Fisher did a pretty good job. It was so strange on the sack... he held his ground really well on the initial rush, and then somehow just got THROWN to the ground. As if he was more than powerful enough front to back but side to side was a rag doll.

He did come back and have really solid blocking on the next series, though. I'd like to see the guy not give up a single sack for the rest of the preseason, and I'll call this one a fluke. But the clock is absolutely ticking on him.

Fisher tripped over Jeff Allen

Chiefs Training Camp Report, 8/11/2014
Aug 11, 2014 -- 12:52pm



By @TJCarpenterWHB


NOTES:



- Sean Smith had high highs and low lows today in practice. He got a couple INTs and then was flat out dominated off the ball a couple times by Donnie Avery



- Ron Parker and Sean Smith were put in with the first team defense on a number of 11 on 11 drills today



- Chase Daniel continues to struggle at camp throwing interceptions, but that is not unlike his performance from TC last year.



- Frank Zombo may be the odd man out in LB corps, Dezman Moses injury may change that, but as it stands right now, Outside Linebacker group consists of Hali, Houson - Ford, Martin - and then if Zombo were to make the team, he would be the 5th OLB on the 53.



- Albert Wilson continues to play well, I still believe Frankie Hammond will make the team over Wilson, but camp is long and right now Wilson looks like the more productive of the two. Kyle Williams also continues with strong performances at camp.



- Albert Wilson also may prove to be a better WR option next season than DeAnthony Thomas, who has smaller hands and less weight on his frame.



- DAT is clearly the fastest football player in pads they have at camp. I asked Adam Teicher about how Thomas compares to Dante Hall, who has the same height and about 10-pounds heavier. Teicher said Hall was a stockier player than Thomas, but wasn't nearly as fast as DAT is. Whether he plays on offense much remains to be seen, but I think he'll be a gamer on special teams.



- DAT also worked on kickoff drills today as the catch man on several "Music City Miracle" drills. They did a shorter version of the play as well that involved Knile Davis as the catch man.

Is that it? I suppose that's somewhat more encouraging.

Bailey says this years offensive line better than last years.

It is listed in today's MMQB

We can only hope..

He is a guy who should know.

Yea, i watched it a couple of times and it appears that Allen got pushed back into Fishers legs as he was blocking undercutting him enough that he went down.

Fisher still should have been stronger but it wasn't as bad at it looked.


Allen still seems to have issues. As i said in another thread, i hope our entire Oline interior gets reworked. Some of our backups looked good. Maybe Allen would be better at OT. Dunno.

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ST. JOSEPH, Mo. -- A daily review of the hot topics coming out of Kansas City Chiefs training camp at Missouri Western State University:
•The Chiefs continued to get a long look at young defensive lineman Jaye Howard, who has been starting in place of the injured Mike DeVito, who has a broken hand. Howard received the second-most snaps of any Chiefs defensive player in the preseason opener against Cincinnati, and from all appearances Howard will play a lot in Sunday night's game against the Panthers in Charlotte. They kept Howard on their active roster all season last year after claiming him off waivers from the Seattle Seahawks, and even though he played in just three games they obviously they saw plenty of talent to work with. They may be seeing the payoff. Howard had a sack and was second on the Chiefs in tackles against the Bengals.
•Developmental quarterback Tyler Bray continued to flash the talent that makes him an intriguing prospect to the Chiefs. He has the best arm among the four quarterbacks in camp and he showed it off on a pair of back-to-back plays. He threw a deep ball that was well-placed between defenders that A.J. Jenkins couldn't quite catch up with. Bray then threw a dart for a big gain to Frankie Hammond Jr.
•For veteran help at safety, the Chiefs turned to Jonathon Amaya, who participated in practice on Monday after taking the roster spot of the suddenly retired Steve Gregory. Amaya played in 38 games over three seasons with the Saints and Dolphins. After Gregory left camp, the Chiefs had precious little NFL experience at safety behind the starters, Eric Berry and Husain Abdullah. Amaya could still conceivably make the regular-season roster, but that could depend more on how young safeties like Daniel Sorensen and Malcolm Bronson fare the rest of training camp and the preseason.
•Another practice session came and went with rookie Cairo Santos doing all the kicking. Incumbent Ryan Succop has a sore groin and hasn't kicked since the Cincinnati game. The Chiefs haven't gone with a rookie kicker to begin a season since 2009, when Succop entered the league. But that possibility is looking more and more likely.
•The Chiefs practice again on Tuesday at 9:15 ET/8:15 a.m. CT.

The surprise of Zach Fulton has really, really, really helped to turn this OL debacle around. If we can seriously get an upgrade at RG out of a rookie sixth rounder - and by all accounts, that's what happened - then it goes a long way to securing depth.

If you add The Ballad of Ricky Henry to that mix at LG, then suddenly the options at OL depth look much better.

Fulton,Rinshaw,Henry,Kush

I hope the interior of our Oline is much stronger this year. Technique is great but the is something to be said for having power inside.

I really hope they don't cut Albert Wilson. I can see him being a good contributor this year and in the future.

I agree. He looks like he WANTS the job and he's certainly earning it from all reports.

Why is no one talking about Dressler? WHY!?!?!?!!!!!!!!

Sacc's great white hope is still around, yes?

Cut whitey!!!

Sounds like Sean Smith is getting a ton of INTs. Obviously he's been spending a lot of time with the 2s but..

That's usually a win-win. Our starting CB looks good while our backup QB looks like shit and inches closer to being cut.

Depends on which backup.

Yeah, I was talking about Chase.

He's the one that's running with the 2s most often, albeit not always, and it sounds like he's been throwing more INTs than any other QB.

At any rate, that's why I said it's "usually" a win-win.

I looked for a couple minutes here at work. Does anyone have video of the hit from camp? Only one I saw was from the Pro Bowl.
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In before the storm of "experienced player" crowd.

Chase is just trying to get both his receivers and db's used to catching the ball, clearly.

Meanwhile, Teicher says Bray "flashed his talent" by overthrowing a receiver.

LMAO I saw that.

But it was a PERFECT overthrow though.

It's hard to believe Succop has been here since 2009...for some reason...

I heard he volunteered to be bumped down to 2nd string just so he could go up against Daniel and inflate his TC interception total. :evil:

Sean Smith = Gay for Bray

I was thinking he hasn't shown any improvement since his rookie season...

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The interior of our line is just a shit show of fantastic proportions.

LT is a projected abortion.

RT is serviceable but probably still subpar, to be honest.

I laughed at that as well, lol.ROFL

Remember when Saccopoo said this?

I do.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1523

Didn't Moses get cut?

http://arrowheadaddict.com/2014/08/0...-devan-walker/

He got hurt and then they cut him.

WTF are you watching?

he's not watching anything

I'm watching The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug...

Do you disagree that there is a good chance our offensive line ends up being pretty porous?

Jaye Howard getting first team reps

Vance Walker cant even beat him out? What a prized signing

He probably haven't workout this hard. Since he sign with the Raiders.

Vance Walker is a NT. He's Poe's backup.

Normally guys like him (competent vets) come in and start. Take Mays for example. The difference is that he wasn't brought in to play DE in the 3-4 imo. He was brought in to play DT in the nickel. Last year we lined up in the nickel around 50% of the time. Mark my words. He will be an impact player in the nickel and a back up 3-4 DE. You are getting your panties in a wad for nothing. He wasn't brought in to start in the 3-4. That was never the plan.

A good chance? I don't think so from what I saw Thursday. The depth actually looks pretty solid and I think the competition is pretty good.

Defensive lines would need a black arrow to penetrate our interior OL.

Lovely.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/po...-report-day-20

Hah.

An underachieving LT, a LG that a lot of people want kicked to he curb, a C that people are clamoring to move to guard, a big ass ? at RG, and a decent RT.

We've got a lot of competition because everyone is average at best.

:spock::spock: WHAT?! How?

well it is common sense that if you miss a practice you might miss some games.

its logic 101/jpb

Booger is terrible.

TJ Carpenter @TJCarpenterWHB
Junior Hemingway making a comeback at practice. He's been the best WR of the day. #CHIEFS

This is excellent. I was worried the hammy would keep Hemingway out too long.

How many picks has Chase thrown in camp? It is great our CB's are getting plenty of work catching his floaters, but two or three a day seems to be the norm.

Me to. He was the guy I really thought would win the slot job and be good this year.

If tendonitis keeps him out of games he is ****ing worthless. This is easily played through.

in other news ...

FOXBOROUGH, Mass. -- Jeremy Maclin cut Wednesday's practice with the Patriots short after he said his left hamstring "grabbed" on him

.http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/s...ng-injury.html

I like Jordan Mathews for rookie of the year. I liked him before but really like him now. Reports are that he is killing it and is already the best WR on the Eagles.

But he apparently roasted Revis yesterday, still would've loved to grab him... just dont think his interest was here.

We know Blackbob.



We ****ing know.

Paying Walker over 4 million a year on average to be a backup along the line is money wasted.

Will he be a back up if he is the nickel package and we run that formation 50% of the time? Do we really have a base formation anymore?

I am sure Houston thinks so as well.

Uh... he's not making $4 million a year. His salary is 730k with $1M per year in signing bonus.

If he saw his last two years - which he won't, BTW - his average would be $3M a year over the entire life of the contract.

Daniel had another pick by DVD

Daniel sucks major balls. He didn't learn a ****ing thing from Brees.



I also hate that his ****ing last name is Daniel and not Daniels. What a shitty last name.

LOL, right?

Whats worse is peoples need to be prickish and correct you if you DO PUT an s on the end.

**** you and your butt chin.

Mavericks Aces

Like that, huh huh!?!?

LOL.

Yeah, kinda. My GT is Mavs Ace.

People insist on calling me Mavs.....

Instead of just Mav.

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Tyler Bray needs to see reps with the twos in preseason. It's time for him to take the next step.

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Aaron Murray didn't seize the reps he got like I thought he would. The potential is there but he is going to need time to improve accuracy.

Murray is headed for IR and a season of learning the playbook. Called it from the start.

He signed a 3 year, 13.75 million deal with 3.75 million guaranteed.

If he plays it out, his yearly average is over 4 million a year. I don't care what his year 1 cap hit is.

He's overpaid if he's playing as a rotational backup player.

Hi, it's 2014, not 2013. I'll try to remember that next time. :thumb:

In the wired KCChiefs video Andy Reid asks Emmitt Thomas if he can still play.

:doh!: our secondary is doomed

Is that official? I thought they couldn't do that after they decided not to put him on PUP? He would have to really get hurt and the NFL would have a close eye on it. The Star wrote about it before camp.

It's not official yet, but they can IR Murray for his injury he had last season at Georgia even if he plays the entire preseason (at least that is what the radio fellas say). Because of that, I can see it going down that way. They're not ready for Bray to be anything other than the #3 guy, but they don't want to lose either Daniel or Murray for this season.

It sounds like the KC decision makers thought Bray wasn't going to progress like he did this past summer through OTA's to the present( the leaked rumor that Bray was having problems assimilating the playbook was indicative to that ).Murray was the insurance policy for another development QB who's a complete system's dependent prospect who has the mental aspect for the position.

It would be the best case scenario if they could do that. Below is the article I was talking about.

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...cle776970.html

Mathews started for Maclin last night and was targeted nine times. He had nine receptions for 104 yards. Maclin is going to end up in the slot soon and Mathews will win ROTY imo. If Dee Ford sucks, we are going to be pissed we didn't take Mathews.

Or he's just going to get cut and PS cause he isn't good enough for another team to waste a roster spot on him?