Chiefs have $20 million in space...

I don't have any issue with acquiring a young backup/heir apparent for Tamba Hali.

I do have an issue when the guy acquired is so bad, he doesn't even see the field as a rookie and is expected to play next year and replace Tamba.

As we have seen with Fisher, counting on a guy to improve his technique and getting stronger is no sure thing. I'm not excited to be doing it again, with another first round pick.

A rush end taken in the first round should be able to contribute SOMETHING in Year 1 (other than on special teams or a hilarious/sad clip that goes viral because he runs away from a RB).

As for Gaines... again, I'm not saying taking him was a mistake. (Mistake: Not drafting a WR with ONE of those two picks)

Regarding waiting on him... it would have been risky, but it could have worked out. Gaines is definitely a physical freak and his stock was rising, but he lasted until the second half of the third. It's not inconceivable he would have lasted until the 4th, and between projections almost all having him in rounds 4-5 and the general surprise expressed when he was drafted (awful lot of "reach" comments), it might have worked out.

And if it didn't... there were a lot of quality corners on the board after that pick, but no real quality receivers.

You mean our Dline that just gave up 200+ yards rushing?

a Dline so bad at stopping the run that Manning didn't feel the need to throw the ball?

excuses

we needed that same WR/OL all of last offseason

Injuries? I think Dorsey had assembled a team with great depth?

excuses

Our dline isn't the issue. Our inside lbs are terrible and Mauga was consistently attacking the wrong gaps. Without berry, our safety run support is terrible. With Sutton as our d coordinator, he has got to be better at his rotations. The lineup of bailey, vickerson, and Poe is miles better than rotations we've had. Even depth guys like Howard are better than anything we've had in a while.

Get some thumpers at safety and both ilbs. Problem solved. Both of those problems are helped tremendously with a healthy dj and hopefully a healthy berry.

I'm still impressed we're 7-5 this year, but very unimpressed with our last two weeks

Still, I think the intentions were to get this team competing for 2015 so ...

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This team needed depth everywhere. We got deeper at dline, rb, special teams, the secondary, and somewhat at te. While I've been vocally neutral about the qb, Smith is still an enormous upgrade . I actually think most of our oline and ilbs would be excellent depth, but they shouldn't be starting.

We gutted pretty much half of Piolis guys. I agree we needed help at oline and wr and Dorsey should accept blame especially at oline. But let's not pretend this teams only problems two years ago were there. We needed help at a ton of areas and we've at least narrowed that list down.

What's really ****ed about the OL issue is that someone can justify burning another 1st round pick amongst that squad due to their fabulous shitshow this season.

Parker is awful. He's afraid to tackle anyone, gets frozen by look offs or bites on pump fakes. The guy sucks.

Ugh, No.

This team is getting worse for the 'gutting'

What's wrong with this? A lot of these guys were good players for us last year and the others are cheap role players that are easily replaced.

Some of them cost a bit more and served their purpose. Now we can get money back and get other players.

Not sure what you don't get about this? We needed some of these guys last year in year 1.

Our best run stuffers at every level are Mike DeVito, DJ and Berry. All three of these guys gone. You think that doesn't make a difference?

Manning did throw the ball. 34 times. And he completed HALF of them. Hell some of them, like the CJ Anderson TD, was a quick dump off. I feel good about our secondary. Gaines was a ****ing boss out there.

Two years in and we haven't won the SB? OMG! Last year we made the playoffs and everyone called him great. CP is so wishy washy. It's Hunts fault we have no titles in 40 years, not Dorsey. The man will return us to contention in the next few years.

The team that Reid and Dorsey have formed have beaten 3 of the 6 current playoff teams in the AFC and 5 winning teams overall.

And it's year 2. And we didn't have a 2nd rd pick in the first 2 drafts. We're making progress. It's better than last year for sure.

The Chiefs are 2 games away from having back-to-back winning seasons for the first time since the 90's. They might make the playoffs in back-to-back years.
It takes time.

Are you kidding me?

This team is 7-5 on a schedule 100 times more brutal than last year's. We are close in every single game including against the best teams in the league. And you think we're getting worse?

Oh, but the o-line is moving backwards. God forbid.

JFC.

2005: 10-6
2006: 9-7

I had totally forgot this year because we didn't make the playoffs.

Do you agree with the point of the post though?

this. mauga & JMJ [insert any of our backup ilb] are complete trash.

I don't know.

I was pretty high on Dorsey & Reid but the last two games (coupled with Tennessee and SF) really have me concerned about the Chiefs future. While Dorsey's done well with role players, his high draft picks have been a disappointment at best.

And as Reid goes, so do the Chiefs. If his play calling is great, the Chiefs win. If his play calling is poor, the Chiefs lose. His poor decision making greatly affects the defensive side of the ball, too.

I disagree. They're not "trash", they backup players that should be excelling on special teams. Instead, they were forced into starting duty because the starters were injured.

If JMJ or Mauga was next to DJ, the defense would look much different.

Good post. Agree, although I give Dorsey a little more rope.

Reid... we knew what we were getting, unfortunately. Throw in Smith and you have a third guy who's given us lots of reason to doubt what we have.

one post you defend Dorsey and the next you talk about getting rid of all the crap players Dorsey pulled in


a little contradictory

Far from it.

What he's proven is he's willing to dump starters and replace them with JAG's.

Some will work out - most won't.

We are a better team than last year. Much better. Even with injuries.

And what "often injured player" has hurt us this year with his absence? Devito, DJ, Jeff Allen, Stephenson, and Berry are not often injured (or suspended).

So I don't understand what point you're trying to make. If we're replacing guys with lesser talent then why are we better?

Better than last year? Based on what? We lost to the flipping Raiders!!!

We're only better in your mind.

No WR with a TD 3/4ths of the way through the year is not better.
Dog$#it offensive line is not better.
Finishing with less wins is not better...

Yes, we should base an entire season off one game

yep he did nothing to help the offense, OL was filled with backups and depleted receiving corps was virtually kept the same. The only thing he did to bolster the offense was draft a ST/gadget player to replace McCluster.. yeah that isn't a formula for success. If anything this team has been overachieving so far.

Okay, we also lost to the Titans.

We're very lucky that with as many sacks as Smith has taken he isn't injured yet...

Our defense went from being the 24th ranked scoring defense to #3
Our offense slipped but only from #6 to #15 (and that's not counting how many points we got last year from turnovers leading to a short field, which we all know happened a lot).


Wow, that's what you care about? We're significantly better at TE. At D-line. In our secondary. And that's WITHOUT Devito, Berry, and Harris. But that o-line everyone on here kept preaching is so important trumps all that, I suppose.


:doh!:
2013 - Chiefs had the 5th lowest strength of schedule
2014 - Chiefs have the 7th hardest
We spent all offseason long bitching about how our team was a paper champion because we were barely beating terrible teams. How our record was inflated because we kept playing terrible backup QBs. How we'd look like dogshit against a real schedule. Now we've played a legitimately hard schedule, won 7 games, and all of a sudden Strength of schedule doesn't matter anymore. That's convenient.

The Chiefs this year [2014] beat (.500+ teams this year):
San Diego
Seattle
New England
Miami
Buffalo

The Chiefs last year [2014] beat (.500+ teams)
Philly

I thought he was done after getting speared in the spine with the crown of Von Miller's helmet. that looked absolutely devastating live. With a less mobile QB they could have easily gotten around 10 sacks. The OL is probably the biggest weakness on the roster right now in terms of the impact on the outcome of the season

Our defense is better.

You can't win if you can't throw.
You can't throw if you don't have time or you're on your ass.



Yes and we're a very inconsistent team. We've lost to teams like the 0-10 Raiders and Titans and beat teams like the Seahawks and Pats.

This same offense that was able to score points at the end of last year can't do $3it this year. Reid still insists on passing with a line that's much better at run blocking than pass blocking.

And the Chargers and Donks have played pretty much the same schedule and both of those teams have a better record than us at this point.

Is that better?...

We were doing fine when we were 7-3. And that was a legitimate 7-3. Tough schedule, no bullshit calls, no lucky bounces, no major injuries to opponents (especially QBs). We lost to the Titans in game 1. We lost to the Raiders in a short week on a road game. 2 losses that far apart does NOT make you inconsistent.

The offense has regressed slightly. The defense has improved tremendously. What's funny about your comment is that last year's offensive line was horrible. The oline improved dramatically the last 8 games. Their record in those games was 2-6 with those wins being against Washington and Oakland. But I guess because the offense was fun to watch, that's all that matters.

What does that have to do with anything? The question is if we're better than last year. Last year, we won a lot of games because of a laughingstock schedule and playing a bunch of backup QBs. This year, we are a legit 7-5 against a brutal schedule and a huge string of key injuries.

Unfortunately yes, I wouldn't advocate it but the sell itself is justifiable.

I think most of that is because the Chiefs are so bad on the OL and receiver that Reid has to be creative every week to get progress.

There needs to be 2 new OL and a legit WR added this spring.

But yes Andy does make some frustrating calls. That's for sure

Did we sell some tickets?

We easily should have lost to the bills if for not a miracle fumble and shitty red zone qb. There was a no call on Baldwin which leads to the go ahead TD. This team easily could be 5-7

Great, now we're going to play this game? How does 1 loss get you from 7-5 to 5-7? And by that same token, if the refs don't call a BS pass interference call against Oakland then Oakland may not have scored that final TD.

JFC. We have a tough schedule, all of our wins are legit wins against mostly uninjured rosters, good mix between road/home wins, and we're still making excuses for games we won. This is a team with some fundamental gaps. But it's undoubtedly a better team than 2013.

Maybe JMJ but not Mauga. Dude takes the WORST angles I have ever seen.

The Oline play seems to have gotten into Smith's head. The past few games he is conceding sacks too early and had his mid range accuracy go down more than usual. He isn't a QB that can afford to dip in certain areas. He also isn't running and saving the Oline like he did last year.

This defense is improved though. It hasn't been perfect, but even with the injuries it's better than last year. Last year, the first half was a mirage. You can see that this year there is more of a real quality to it, even with all the replacements and young corners.

I know I will get flamed for this but **** it. The way I see it even if we lose out the rest of the season we have still won more games than 2/3 of this board had us pegged to win iirc. We knew we had a tough schedule and several glaring weaknesses before the season ever started. These weaknesses show. Then the loss of 3 key defenders did not help matters. Frustrating I know. But the team has outperformed what a lot of us were expecting at the start of the season. I had us pegged at 9-7 before the injuries hit. This team as shitty as the last couple of losses have been has outperformed what I expected. One good draft and the right moves in free agency and you see a much better team in very short order. The griping gets old when a lot of us saw this from the beginning. Flame away.

There shouldn't be any flaming. This was a good post.

Indeed. 10 picks, get good position. Just lose, baby.

I want to see this squad in playoffs like I want to see Rosie O' Donnell naked.

That's HAWT!

This is Chiefs planet. The masses who predicted 2 wins will claim 7 wins (or... As many as 11) didn't exceed expectations. The masses that last year griped about how we won games on an easy schedule because of lucky bounces and playing terrible backup qbs, will ignore that we played one of the toughest schedules, beat 5 teams in playoff contention, and got that teams uninjured, starting qb best. The same people who griped about how unvaluable the offensive line is and how critical a good secondary and defensive line are will tell you this team fell apart because our offensive line blows, nevermind that our secondary and defensive line are miles ahead of last year.

Everything above is literally the arguments that have taken place over 2 years. No exaggerating.