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ILChief 11-23-2014 07:48 PM

He did a nice Kendrick Lewis impression Thursday night

scho63 11-23-2014 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11138708)
Been talking about paying a box safety this much for awhile now and people just get pissed. I just think we need to rethink how we spend our money.

Eric Berry $11,619,700 - OVERPAID AND NEVER THE SAME SINCE HIS INJURY
Dwayne Bowe $11,485,294 - OUR #1 RECEIVER WITH ZERO TD GRABS AND BASICALLY A GLORIFIED TIGHT END AS OPPOSED TO A #1 WR
Tamba Hali $11,464,706 - PLAYS HARD BUT ON THE DOWNSIDE OF HIS CAREER.

Can't we do better than this for 33 million dollars per?

:thumb:

You certainly would think so! :banghead:

BossChief 11-23-2014 09:19 PM

Fasano gets 4.3
Daniel gets 4.5
Mays gets 4+
Avery gets about 4 (which I think he's well worth it when healthy)
DJ is slated for over 5

Lots of big decisions coming up

spanky 52 11-24-2014 06:57 AM

It seems like our secondary has sucked since Berry came back. Parker and Abdullah were playing pretty well at safety were they not?

srvy 11-24-2014 07:46 AM

CP and their sacred cows. I said before the season began Berry won't see another contract with the Chiefs. It was like I mocked god around here.

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-24-2014 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srvy (Post 11140942)
CP and their sacred cows. I said before the season began Berry won't see another contract with the Chiefs. It was like I mocked god around here.

LMAO

ILChief 11-24-2014 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 11140452)
Fasano gets 4.3
Daniel gets 4.5
Mays gets 4+
Avery gets about 4 (which I think he's well worth it when healthy)
DJ is slated for over 5

Lots of big decisions coming up

The first three are no brainer cuts

ThaVirus 11-24-2014 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spanky 52 (Post 11140906)
It seems like our secondary has sucked since Berry came back. Parker and Abdullah were playing pretty well at safety were they not?


Has more to do with injuries, I'd say.

We'd be much better off with Parker at S than CB but with Owens and Fleming out and Cooper incapable of covering Aunt May we have to make the switch.

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-24-2014 06:41 PM

Well, now we find out what's what.

TimeForWasp 11-24-2014 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsNow (Post 11136720)
I didn't mention it in the game, but when he was trying to catch Murrey he looked like he wasn't healthy. I think he is still playing hurt.

"

I thought something wrong. Damn, wish now I was wrong about that.

OldSchool 11-24-2014 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsNow (Post 11142373)
"

I thought something wrong. Damn, wish now I was wrong about that.

Berry looked slow on that play, but the truth is that Murray is just fast. He ran under 4.4 at his pro-day.

TimeForWasp 11-24-2014 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 11142571)
Berry looked slow on that play, but the truth is that Murray is just fast. He ran under 4.4 at his pro-day.

I was looking at his face and him slowing down at the end. He seemed sick to me.

TimeForWasp 11-24-2014 10:10 PM

I'm not trying to say I called it or anything like that. I just noticed it.

ThaVirus 11-24-2014 10:11 PM

People say he looked slow but that RB is actually fast as shit.

It was Berry's angle that ****ed him over, not his lack of closing speed.

MahiMike 11-24-2014 10:12 PM

Anybody feel guilty now?

OldSchool 11-25-2014 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsNow (Post 11143058)
I was looking at his face and him slowing down at the end. He seemed sick to me.

He looked sick because he knew that he just ****ed up on the play and slowed down because he knew that he wasn't going to catch the RB.

007 11-25-2014 01:56 AM

oops

Baby Lee 11-25-2014 02:14 AM

rigged /ramtard

Actually, I wish ramtard was here right now so I could punch the stupid out of him.

Tribal Warfare 11-25-2014 02:20 AM

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Mr. Laz 11-25-2014 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 11143073)
Anybody feel guilty now?

not even a little bit


I have not seen a single person attack Berry personally.

It has all been Salary level vrs Performance.


Nobody wanted Berry to get sick or hurt.

The evaluation process still stands.

srvy 11-25-2014 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11143649)
not even a little bit








I have not seen a single person attack Berry personally.





It has all been Salary level vrs Performance.








Nobody wanted Berry to get sick or hurt.





The evaluation process still stands.



This

the Talking Can 11-25-2014 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11143649)
not even a little bit


I have not seen a single person attack Berry personally.

It has all been Salary level vrs Performance.


Nobody wanted Berry to get sick or hurt.

The evaluation process still stands.


yeah, the all-pro, multi-year probowler wasn't living up to his contract


he had yet to be named all-galaxy

ottawa_chiefs_fan 11-25-2014 08:13 AM

Now is when we should be flying a banner - for Eric.

ThaVirus 11-25-2014 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 11143700)
yeah, the all-pro, multi-year probowler wasn't living up to his contract





he had yet to be named all-galaxy


Hey! He's not a game changer, OK!?!

He returned damn near half of his INTs for TDs but nope! Not an impact player at all!

Wallcrawler 11-25-2014 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11143649)
not even a little bit


I have not seen a single person attack Berry personally.

It has all been Salary level vrs Performance.


Nobody wanted Berry to get sick or hurt.

The evaluation process still stands.


This, and it hasn't gone on just about Berry either. When you commit an enormous portion of your team's salary to one player, the heat is on. That player MUST produce at the level the pay demands, because he's being paid enough for 2-3 regular players.

Its dangerous. He's been injured the majority of this season, came back and looked okay, and now this. However you slice it, his contribution on the field has not matched the paychecks he's been getting.

For whatever its worth on the 90 yard TD, they clocked Latavius Murray at over 20 mph on that run. He was hitting Lorenzo Cain gear, in full pads. That's a fast ass SOB right there.

DL/LB/and S all combined mistakes for that play to happen, its not just all on Berry. Mauga stays in his gap, he doesn't get up to that top gear that can outrun Berry.


I hate that this has happened to Berry. He's a great person and a great talent, but the things being said prior to discovering his condition don't just become false because of his horrific diagnosis.

He was not producing at a level that justified what we were committing to him in the salary cap. He basically played LB for us last season, and we seriously overpaid last season for his box safety/LB play.

This year, just a snakebitten year. The heel problems before the season, the ankle injury in week 2, and now he may never play again.

My family is praying for him to be okay, for whatever ****ing good that will do. Perhaps some religious fanatics can explain how any just God would decide for a standup kid like Eric Berry to get "blessed" with Lymphoma when there are so many worthless, thieving, murdering, drug slinging, child molesting, wastes of human flesh in this world that are FAR more deserving of that shit.

#ThatsNotFunnyGod

beach tribe 11-25-2014 11:30 AM

My wife is an Oncology nurse, and deals with lymphoma daily.

I'm sorry to say that I doubt we will see Berry on the field anytime soon, if ever.

Prayers are with you Eric.

ToxSocks 11-25-2014 11:36 AM

Im at the point where i think imma have to take some days off of CP. Seeing this thread really just depresses the shit out of me.

Titty Meat 11-25-2014 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 11144247)
Im at the point where i think imma have to take some days off of CP. Seeing this thread really just depresses the shit out of me.

Because we all know he had cancer when this thread was made. It's a football discussion board we discuss football here. nobody said anything about him personally. What's the big deal?

ToxSocks 11-25-2014 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog (Post 11144262)
Because we all know he had cancer when this thread was made. It's a football discussion board we discuss football here. nobody said anything about him personally. What's the big deal?

WTF are you even talking about?

beach tribe 11-25-2014 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog (Post 11144262)
Because we all know he had cancer when this thread was made. It's a football discussion board we discuss football here. nobody said anything about him personally. What's the big deal?

Defensive much?

Johnny Vegas 11-25-2014 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 11143700)
yeah, the all-pro, multi-year probowler wasn't living up to his contract


he had yet to be named all-galaxy

hey when you got identical numbers to the praised Sean Taylor you're not living up to the contract.

BossChief 11-25-2014 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 11142571)
Berry looked slow on that play, but the truth is that Murray is just fast. He ran under 4.4 at his pro-day.

Berry ran an official 4.47 at the combine (with hand clocked times at sub 4.4)

OldSchool 11-25-2014 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 11145023)
Berry ran an official 4.47 at the combine (with hand clocked times at sub 4.4)

Yeah, but he has also had an ACL injury.

Murray ran a 4.38 at his pro-day, Berry wasn't going to catch him when he took the poor angle that he did and had to reverse his momentum.

I really just hope that they caught the cancer early enough for him to live a long and healthy life after treatment. It doesn't matter if he ever comes back to the football field or not at this point.

Mr. Laz 11-25-2014 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 11144286)
WTF are you even talking about?

He's talking about the people trying to make others feel guilty about discussing whether or not Berry was worth 9 million a year, now that he's sick.

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-25-2014 06:02 PM

I just realized that Berry was the next man up for defensive leadership if Hali and DJ get the shaft.

If all 3 are gone, then who becomes "the man"?

Don't say Houston or Poe. You can just keep your goddamned fingers off the keyboard before you try an embarrass yourself like that.

OldSchool 11-25-2014 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Williams (Post 11145115)
I just realized that Berry was the next man up for defensive leadership if Hali and DJ get the shaft.

If all 3 are gone, then who becomes "the man"?

Don't say Houston or Poe. You can just keep your goddamned fingers off the keyboard before you try an embarrass yourself like that.

Well, the team wanted it to be Houston before extending him. So it's going to have to be Houston.

Berry will likely get cut this next off-season if there is no chance of him coming back. There is your room to keep both Hali and Houston on the roster.

Rausch 11-25-2014 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Williams (Post 11145115)
Don't say Houston or Poe. You can just keep your goddamned fingers off the keyboard before you try an embarrass yourself like that.

Some lead by example. By actions.

Some people have to be forced into the role...

Chiefnj2 11-25-2014 06:09 PM

The salary cap hasn't been a top 10 issue contributing to KC's decades long playoff victory drought, yet an abnormally large number of CP posters are absolutely fixated and paranoid over it.

Mr. Laz 11-25-2014 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 11145124)
The salary cap hasn't been a top 10 issue contributing to KC's decades long playoff victory drought, yet an abnormally large number of CP posters are absolutely fixated and paranoid over it.

You have no idea whether or not the salary cap has been an issue or not.

None


It's either the salary cap or Hunt not wanting to spend, or both.

otherwise why don't we have every great player that hits FA?

Why would we ever have to release any good players?

Our bench should be filled with starters ala the yankees since we have no spending limit.

Rausch 11-25-2014 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11145137)
You have no idea whether or not the salary cap has been an issue or not.

None


It's either the salary cap or Hunt not wanting to spend, or both.

otherwise why don't we have every great player that hits FA?

Why would we ever have to release any good players?

Our bench should be filled with starters ala the yankees since we have no spending limit.

You have to draft well and we draft like $#it.

Teams like Denver and Seattle drafted great and added the finishing touches in free agency.

ILChief 11-25-2014 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 11145139)
You have to draft well and we draft like $#it.

Teams like Denver and Seattle drafted great and added the finishing touches in free agency.

We have drafted pretty well recently

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-25-2014 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 11145118)
Well, the team wanted it to be Houston before extending him. So it's going to have to be Houston.

Berry will likely get cut this next off-season if there is no chance of him coming back. There is your room to keep both Hali and Houston on the roster.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 11145119)
Some lead by example. By actions.

Some people have to be forced into the role...

That'd be great, but I don't see it in his personality thus far.

Rausch 11-25-2014 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 11145144)
We have drafted pretty well recently

I disagree, but it's early.

And really it's three games. The draft is a game and a challenge all to itself. Trading up, down, and selecting. Knowing when to or not to.

Free agency is another game within the game. It can make or break a team.

The season itself is the main part everyone concentrates on. Even then a GM has trade options, injuries, and moves in-season.

I don't think we've done better than average at all three areas since the early 90's...

Buns 11-25-2014 06:27 PM

I would hope that if the Chiefs can pay him out, without it hitting the cap, they would. Let him retire a Chief, just as he should have been entering his prime.

Eleazar 07-31-2015 10:17 AM

This isn't the thread I was looking for.
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