ok fine

it sure is

Manning vs. Unitas is not a real debate. It's ****ing stupid.

Haven't read this thread yet but will I am.

Daniels was ****ing hot ggarbagge today. Reid's game plane was a shit fest. Gonna wreck the Reid apologists tomorrow when I have some time.

Reid smith and daniels are all ****ing losers.

Romo is #1, Russell Wilson is#12

Romo superior to Wilson.

I don't think that many people disagree with you any more.

I've been a Romo fan since day 1

would not take him over Wilson

but he's in my top 5, over Drew Brees, no doubt

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CRUSH

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PEYTON

MANNING

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CHAMPIONSHIPS

Romo had a fantastic season. There's that.

we were a 14 win team this year, minimum, with Russell at QB

SAYS
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GUY
WHO
WON'T
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PEYTON MANNING
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THE
BEST
COLTS
QB
EVER

Anyone who won't admit Peyton is the greatest COLTS QB ever is a ****ing dipshit. Seriously.

Using a team statistic to determine a players worth is pretty dumb.

HE

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GREATEST

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INDIANAPOLIS COLTS

HISTORY

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FRANCHISE HISTORY

Rmemeber when deipshit hoers insited alex smith was better than tonyo romo laololol

you're a ****ing moron if you think Johnny Unitas is a better NFL QB than Peyton Manning

and that's that

like, anyone with that opinion (if it's an actual opinion) is not allowed to be taken seriously, about anything, ever.

So, go on record. Johnny Unitas > Peyton Manning, this is your opinion? Yes?

yes i ahad a little drink about an ahoiur ago

ralaexas me and helps me to ease the pain of chiefs football

I do remember when there were talks of Romo potentially being cut and no one wanted him on this board (other than me and a few others)

Undoubtedly, I will assume ChiefsCountry was one of those people. Because clearly, he's dumb.

Manning is a hell of a QB - top 10 of all time for sure, probably top 5 but not the greatest ever.

Let's get fuqtarded!

people just hate anyyhjing that's not chiefs because well i dont; know why

jealousy i guess

not enough sex in de hig scolsl and now stuck with their fat wives

Yep. Absolutely ridiculous. Romo could be the MVP this year.

i'm not even drunk but this keyoard sint the greatest imand im toying fast

better than watching the checkdowns of alex for another week im ritite lol

but you rank Johnny Unitas in front of him, correct?

anyone who drinks and can't type is also a ****ing idiot

if i typed slower i could do better but i'm typing fast hey this sentence came out okk

smed fight me IRL

Tony did have an amazing line and a stud rb, so I'm sure he made the most of that. You put Alex on that team and he might target Dez four times a game and they're going 500 with that trash defense.

You do realize that a rookie Carr threw more touchdown passes than and for almost as many yards as "prime" Smiff, while on an aborted dumpster fire of a team.

Carr might be something decent under his turd shell in the future. Alex doesn't have a shell. He's turd all the way through.

Russell Wilson is an overglorified game manager. He's Alice Smiff with better scrambling ability on a mega-stacked team. Marshawn Lynch carries that offense.

I know this because I watch the ****ing games.

I realize that Derek Carr in no way, shape or form was a better QB in 2014 than Alex Smith.

Good God.

YPA means something though.

Russell Wilson didn't have nearly a good of 2014 as he did 2013 and his numbers were still better than Alex's across the board.

Alex is basically the poverty Russ.

Carr comes in at 26 in total qbr. He's at the bottom of the toilet with Smith.

I wonder if morons realize that touchdowns and yardage are a lot easier to accumulate when your team is playing catch up late in games and the other team is in constant prevent defense trying to get the game over with

oh wait, I don't wonder, because GoChargers is trying to act like Derek Carr had a promising rookie year, which he did not have

Minimum. With upside!

lmfao

Marshawn Lynch carries the Seattle offense.

And the guy supposedly watches the games.

holy ****ing shit

that's all I can say

holy
****ing
shit

we were in every game, sans the Tennessee game (and the 2nd Denver game, really) with a QB who literally made no plays for us for an entire year

...

yeah I'd say 14 or 15 is realistic

hell, the Hawks could have very easily ran the table this year

Romps a damn good player. But since he has as many playoff wins as Alex he must suck. Since that's all that matters.

Take Lynch off that team and Wilson will get exposed.

The funny thing is, you always give Brady shit for being a game manager on a stacked team early on in his career, yet you praise Wilson for the exact same thing.

He won 12 with Seattle. But 14 or 15 with the Chiefs. That's some fine shit you're smoking there.

Incidentally he lost to us.

like maybe that was a double i had but i guess ive had barely anything to eat today

but still hootie no typos here bitch you betta recanize

Marshawn Lynch averaged 4.3 YPC this year.

He's a JAG with a cool nickname so everyone thinks he's amazing.

He's a durable Ryan Mathews. Whooopdee****ingdoo.

He will be replaced with ease next year.

****ing morons on this site.

Great comparison, as long as you ignore the fact that Lynch is an elite running back whereas a healthy Mathews is still only decent at best and constantly fumbles the ball.

Your takes continue to be the laughingstock of this site.

Hootie is a complete dipshit. Their defense is 20x better than ours. Chiefs have a shit team, just junk. We all want to think we have hidden gems, but we don't. We have shit.


A drunk Clay is smarter than a sober Hootie

Matt Cassel made the eleven total qbr spot when Brady got Pollard'd in 2008. Then hit number 16 in his fantastic pro bowl 2010 campaign.

Best I can find for Alex is 19th last season. Hilarious stuff.

I agree with Inmem, jokers on this site try to say that we have great aspects to this team. Not only did we not make the tournament, we lost to the Raiders!

when did I ever say the Chiefs with Wilson would be better than the Hawks with Wilson?

We were 9-7 and could have very easily won 5 of those 7 games had we had a better playmaker at QB.

how can anyone argue that?

Yes.

Montana
Unitas
Elway

Then you have in no order:
Manning, Brady, Graham, Baugh, Marino, Starr, Young

anyone who thinks that, in 2014, Marshawn Lynch carried an offense more than RUSSELL WILSON gets an opinion weighted roughly as high as the guy who thinks Unitas > Manning in Colts history

how old are you?

If you're younger than 50, you're a ****ing reerun.

You can't rank guys you never ****ing watched.

I've never posted that Alex was a top 12 QB at least.

roofles

What sets Seattle apart is they might have the best defense since the 00 Ravens or the 85 Bears. Wilson is an excellent QB and Lynch is an excellent RB. They play to their strengths, and do it efficiently, which might be the most important thing of all. But their defense is truly great. Peyton Manning and the Broncos had the greatest offensive season ever last year and the Seahawks just mauled them. And they've mauled everyone the last 5-6 weeks. If they continue to play defense like that, they are going to win. When you only have to score 10-14 points to win, you're going to be tough to beat.

:rolleyes:

You can compare history. Its not some evil thing. Its hard for you to see but whatever.

Russell Wilson still completed the occasional big pass play downfield when needed.

The Chiefs and their awful downfield passing game could not do that at all this season.

Also the Chiefs defense… especially in the secondary isn't anything close to what Seattle's was last year (and is this year).

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Alex is a top 12 QB. He's somewhere in the 12-18 range. People are acting like we were 3-13 this year.

He was 8-7 and as long as we were winning he always played good, efficient football. As soon as we started losing, his shortcomings all become shiny and bright.

He was a better QB this year than Matthew Stafford. Probably right up there with Joe Flacco. Shit, even Drew Brees.

This board is totally overreacting about how "shitty" Alex Smith is. He's not shitty. He's also in that tier of QB where the odds of a Super Bowl are slim and none.

But you flip floppers keep pounding your chest like you won some triumphant battle. I've always been realistic about Alex Smith. I knew he didn't suck, and I knew he wasn't great. When we traded for him I figured we'd be getting a Dilfer with Green upside which is basically what he has been.

Wilson is an athletic version of Troy Aikman. Makes the big play when called on and is the leader of a bunch of crazies.

so

since you NEVER watched Johnny Unitas play; what the **** are you comparing to come to the conclusion that Johnny Unitas > Peyton Manning

Seriously

I'm all ears.

No Green upside at all, though.

There are no alternate dimensions where he is #2 in passing.

Fans still happy with mediocrity. The Hunts love you.

ROFL

Just stop posting and save yourself any more embarrassment. Oh wait, you can't... you're addicted to this site, as shown from how you literally tried to bribe your way back on when you got banned and finally snuck back in with a mult.

Top 12 is a hilarious statement.

well the board is acting like he's ****ing Ryan Leaf or something

Smith played some really good, efficient games this year and when we had a lead, he always protected the lead

he's terrible when we are trailing by 7+ and our team becomes one dimensional

and that's a huge issue

our future is very bleak with Alex Smith at QB, obviously everyone can see that

It's 2014. You have to throw the ball down the field. It isn't cute what Alex and Reid are trying to do to win football games. If he truly can't throw the ball down the field (and it's become apparent this might be the case), you have to move on.

He'll be the unquestioned starter in 2015, but it's time we start looking to the draft for replacements. A QB has to be drafted in the first 3 rounds this year.

Smith isn't really Dilfer either though. He's much better than Trent Dilfer ever was. He really is. It's not like Dilfer was great at protecting the football, or even raised his level of play like Smith has in the playoffs.

People would be shocked if they ever went back and looked at Dilfer's stats. He wasn't even a game manager really. He completed less than 50% of his playoff passes and 150 yards was a good game for him.

is it hilarious?

Name 12 QB's that would have won more than 9 games on the Chiefs this year, without a doubt.

Smith is right there in that Flacco/Stafford/Cutler/Dalton tier. He's somewhere in the 12 - 18 range.

Were the Chiefs not competitive this year in 14 of 16 games? Am I missing something?

Smith is far from flashy. He's not anywhere close to the franchise QB who leads you to division title after division title...but there are only 4 or 5 of those guys.

After that? They all have flaws. Smith has some pretty obvious flaws.

But you'd be hard pressed to find 15 better guys than Alex Smith. Sure, 1 of them will throw the deep ball much better (Flacco) but do a lot of the other stuff much worse.

Try and be realistic.

Alex Smith hasn't had a losing year in 4 or 5 years now. He has the 3rd highest winning % in the NFL over the past 4 or 5 years. Say what you want, but Geno Smith will never have the 3rd highest winning % in the NFL, ever, because he makes too many mistakes.

I'm tired of Alex. I want, once in my life, an Aaron Rodgers.

But at least I can be realistic with the QB we have, rather than try and make shit up and pretend he's worse than Matt Cassel.

He might as well be.

Homers love dope = haters no hope

10th anniversary of check downs coming 2015

You mean the same Aaron Rodgers you referred to as "GROSSLY overrated" and claimed you'd rather have Russell Wilson than him?

we could go another year without a WR TD

I balee dat

Now you see why I call him a dupshit on a regular basis. He should just change his name to it.

I'd take Wilson over Rodgers. It's a coin flip, though.

And I guess it's tough for people to realize the Rodgers and Brady threads were a way of asking why they get postseason passes but Peyton Manning does not ... but I sometimes expect too much from this board in the common sense department.

What's a WR?


Weekend Runner?

Was Alex really all that important in those nine wins? All we really needed was a QB that can run an average two minute offense and complete a pass over twenty yards two times a game and we're probably ten plus game winners. It's not like he's asked to run an offense that uses an entire field or anything.

WTF ROFL


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Seattle would trade Wilson for Rodgers straight up in an instant. Wouldn't even regret it, really.

Neither one of them have the long and distinguished record of choking that Fivehead has.

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

and after reading the OP of the linked thread, what are you disagreeing with?

Rodgers STILL holds the ball too long and STILL will never beat a team with an elite pass rush because he STILL takes too many sacks.

And Rodgers was, IMO, the best NFL QB THIS year.

However, he's been so/so in the postseason. This year, he has NO excuse. He shouldn't have gotten excuses two years ago, either. Even last year.

...and I'd still take Russell Wilson over Aaron Rodgers.

But again, that's a coin flip for me.

He's asked to run a backup qb level game plan every week and I'm supposed to praise him for not ****ing that up all the time while making 17 million? Really?

Rodgers holds the ball too long and Alex doesn't? Please tells that's what you're trying to insinuate here.

Lynch makes the offense go, but wilson has 54 passes for 20+. That guy makes some things happen when he has to. Def not a game manager.

Unitas helped revolutionized football from a running sport to a passing one. He had a touchdown pass in 47 straight games, which in that era was just amazing. 6-2 all time playoff record. 3 World Championships. He also lead the NFL in passing yards and touchdowns more times than Manning did.

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Flip Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers.. Seahawks rival the patriots dynasty.. the niners dynasty.. cowboys..