How does downfield accuracy and threat change the play calling, or calling back to back timeouts, or 3 negative pass plays from 1st and goal?

No accuracy or threat is going to fix Andy no matter how many excuses are made for him.

You're the same guy that suggested taking out all of the short routes in the offense, no?

They scheme to what they've got. It's a complete trickle down, teams play defense so aggressively at the line because of our qb.

I'm starting to agree with dane, that people here don't watch much other nfl. Every team throws slants and bubble screens, quite often. It's not a Reid thing.

I just want Sumlin selfishly because he hired my cousin John, who is, in my opinion, the best damn DC in College Football. Maybe he'd come too. :)

Reid certainly has his flaws, I'm not arguing that.

But hes generally had a good offense, and gets the most out of his qbs. Smith has gone the opposite.

Right like I said. Alex wild be the fall guy to protect Reid. Some people need watch other teams and offenses. probably would spend less time defending Reid if they did.

Because he isn't this QB guru that he is portrayed to be... plus his talent evaluation at the QB position is seriously lacking in his judgment of Smith. he shouldn't get a free pass just because people are so desperate to make Smith the fall guy..

Let's be realistic. It's time for Reid to give up the play calling.

He has a HUGE coaching staff here, it's one of the things that I really appreciate about him. I don't think people realize what getting a new coaching staff actually means. Whether you like it or not, it means starting over again, and I don't think we should throw in the towel.

He's always extracted value from his qbs and gotten them to play at the highest level they can, nothing more nothing less.

Save for Alex smith.

The vast majority of throws in the nfl are around the line of scrimmage. This isn't some crazy and Reid phenomenon, it just doesn't work because the defense doesn't have to respect the deep or intermediate areas of the field.

When watching other teams offenses, it's normal to see 7 defensive players on the normal tv sideline feed. When it's an Alex smith offense, you see 9.

As for QB, Its time for Smith to get "injured" so we can see what we have behind him.

And again, he has flaws. He's terrible in game time situation.

But rebuilding the coaching staff from the ground up isn't always the answer.

I like what the Bengals have done. Just keep adding talent and developing it.

I don't see the issue. Crow is right. Very good defense in Carolina. Good coaching pedigree. Young but experienced. I don't have an opinion either way. Not understanding the strong reaction.

Agree, smith is regressing under Reid and Reid is failing to extract value out of his highly paid handpicked, two draft picks QB.

Reid is failing with smith. He won't make a change and will sink with his qb...
He's not a qb guru. Never has been. Never will be. he doesn't put his team in position to achieve success without a borderline HOF QB and a historically awesome DC.

Last time CP start wishing a their wb would get hurt. Charles ended his season in Detroit.

It starts with Reid. He either changes or we continue with this stupid BS on game days.

Ok, what's a qb guru then? He's always gotten this most out of his qbs, save for Alex smith.

McNabb is borderline hall material?

Can we please add a poll to this thread?!?

We will just have to disagree on this.

What Andy did to this franchise in the Denver game will last long after this season without major changes. That ended Andy for me. He can't be fixed and he won't win here in KC... proof is in the results.

Ready for a nerdy post? Here goes....
In the past 3 years, there have been 29 head coaching hires. Both offensive and defensive "new hire" head coaches have made 27 total 1st round picks:

• 12 QBs have been taken in the first 2 rounds. 10 of them were taken by a defensive head coach "new hire".
• 6 WRs drafted by defensive new hires vs. 4 for offensive coaches
• 1 out of 27 defensive HC new hire first rounders were OL. 7 out of 27 for offensive HCs. 7 out of 13 offensive HCs took an OL in their first draft

Don't fall into the trap that offensive HCs care more about QBs. Based on recent history, they love OL. It's the defensive HCs that are drafting the offensive skill players.

Joe Montana.

Could you please consider finding a way to decrease your signature's size? I'm about ready to turn the damn things off entirely.

Ned Yost

Something else to consider... doesn't it seem like offensive HCs try to find QBs who fit their system whereas defensive HCs can find the best QB, then hire an OC to fit that QB? Think of all the ridiculous QB trades, draft or free agency... most of those were made by offensive HCs.

Arrogance.

Offensive HCs think they can make any QB work if they have the right stuff for their system.

Defensive HCs think they can make any defense work as long as their QB isn't a bum.

The opposite for offensive HCs. It seems they're so stubborn to run their own offensive system that they'll settle for mediocre QBs or give up way too much for QBs they like just because they fit the system. Reid and Kelly are supposed to be offensive gurus, and yet both settled for mediocre while passing on a QB 3 times in the draft.

he thinks before he calls plays...
interesting theory
got any evidence?

Harbaugh

The Michigan one

Have we not learned? You can't come back.

Ganz
Romeo
Gunther

This

Lmao he tried to get rid of Alex why the **** would he want to deal with him again

He's not leaving Michigan. They will pay him what it takes to keep him after so many bad hires.

Just give me a coach that doesn't insist on also being the offensive or defensive coordinator.

Would love to have Sean Payton with a young qb that can throw.

Agree with Guru 1000000%

Hell no. Making the jump straight to NFL HC from college almost never works. You hire a former NFL HC or an accomplished coordinator that's ready for the job.

Sean Peyton with Schwartz or pogano as d- cord

That's the point. Plus he's a great coach.

I said a HC that values the QB and the most important position on the field over anything else...

Sorry, wasn't pointing at you. Just talking to overall cp resistance to a defensive hc. My issue with offensive hcs is that they are often stubborn to change their offense and look for system qbs, vs finding best QB available and then finding a system to fit that QB. Recent track record shows that defensive hcs like to draft qbs, while offensive hcs draft linemen.

My concern with Sean Payton would be what the hell has happened to the Saints the past two years under his watch.

I say we acquire one of Hanks old red red vests and brush it for any loose hairs and if that doesn't turn up any DNA lets scrape his 69-70 super bowl ring for skin particles. Clone us up another mentor and we are back in business. Henry Hank was a innovative offensive mind and had incredible defenses.

I think the Chiefs should dig into the depths of NCAA Mid Major Mediocrity and hire Rick Stockstill.

I could make room in my schedule to be the head coach for a slightly less obscene amount of money than the current head coach. I'm pretty sure I couldn't do any worse.

I'm surprised no one has said bob stoops every time we are looking for a new coach we always say bob stoops.

https://nbccollegefootballtalk.files...8&h=243&crop=1

Let's hire the biggest mistake KU football ever made.

But really. I have no illusions that it will happen, but I'd love to see this man coach our football team. He's the kind of guy that is tough on players, but that they would bend over backward for.

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what is he saying at the end of that video clip?

he seems interesting.

It started after a rain game. Many of the coaches had been up in the booth and were teasing Sumlin about being out there in the rain. He handed out water bottles to the team and at the end said "Since everyone contributed, everyone's gonna get wet!" and had them spray the water. It's become somewhat of a tradition. The guy is an excellent coach. He's taylor-made for the NFL, and will be here soon enough...I'd like it to be in KC, but he'll probably go to some team that usually has good things like that happen to them.

Cool. had no idea of any of that.

I would really like shaw love the way he looks at the game


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I look at Shaw's resume and I think, "It's not even ****ing close."

He's the best head coaching candidate by a mile.

However, he's also a smart guy, so he'll know that he needs to stay way the **** away from Kansas City :#

Harbaugh almost took the Chiefs job years back maybe shaw woild too if the money was right

Kirk Ferentz lol

I would rather kill myself than watch Stoops coach.

Probably the closest they came but Landry had him on his staff a short time.

Kirk Ferentz!!!!11one

You're an idiot. Apparently you don't know how to use google either. Pretty clear to see that he has made his teams competitive with even average qbs. Jeff Garcia, Kevin Kolb, Mike Vick. Alex Smith sucks, no doubt with that said he's likely still the best qb currently on this roster. And to say the Dungver game ended Andy for you is another bullshit statement from a complete ****ing jackass. You've been crying like the biggest bitch on this site, non stop for many months. So please stop trying to act like something you're not and just be the crying asshat that we all unfortunately know.

Andy Reid sucks.

The reason those teams were competitive were because of Jim Johnson's defense and the players not drafted by Reid.

Once Johnson died the Eagles took advantage of a joke of an NFC East to reach the playoffs.

I live in ok and I'd literally stop being a chiefs fan. On second thought this may be the best move for me.

Jake McToughnuts.

LMAO