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Alex Gordons storied time with the Royals coming to an end
Veteran left-fielder will be a free agent Friday night Royals likely wont match his price on the open market [email protected] BY SAM MELLINGER [email protected] The championship came late Sunday night and the parade on a beautiful Tuesday afternoon. Baseball moves fast, so already, in the same week, Friday is Alex Gordon's last day with the Royals. The team's longest tenured player is a free agent, starting at 11 pm Friday, and after that his connection with the Royals will be limited to contract negotiations and then, barring what would be a significant surprise, fond memories. Because Gordon will most likely be playing somewhere else next year, which will be weird weird for him, weird for his family, weird for the Royals but this is the way baseball works. Ned Yost, the Royals' manager, calls Gordon the perfect ballplayer. Dayton Moore, the general manager, has said that his proudest professional experience with a player has been Gordon's path from superstar prospect to temporary bust to franchise cornerstone and Moore said that before Gordon helped lead the Royals to an American League pennant last year and a world championship this week. Moore is a sentimental man. He often talks about the importance of baseball in the community, particularly with kids, and means it as a compliment when he says someone "plays with a boyish innocence." Gordon is, in many ways, the defining player of Moore's time in Kansas City. This is a complicated situation, then, because the Royals have money to spend this offseason and Gordon figures to be in line for a contract worth between $15 million and $20 million annually over five years. So what Moore said shortly after a season-ending press conference on Thursday is worth reading into. He was asked specifically about potential negotiations with Gordon, perhaps his favorite Royal of all-time. "You keep it professional," Moore said. "Business is business. You do the right thing. It's about the Kansas City Royals." This is significant, because the Royals, for perhaps the first time, are potentially positioned to win the negotiations for a player of Gordon's caliber. Assuming owner David Glass keeps with his policy of putting profits back into the team, a franchise record payroll could grow from $112 million in 2015 to $130 million or more in 2016. In addition, the Royals have $40 million coming off the books in expiring contracts or likely non-tender candidates, which is only partially offset by about $25.5 million in contracted raises, buyouts, and estimated increases in salary arbitration. The money coming off includes Gordon, Alex Rios, Jeremy Guthrie, and Greg Holland, who made $8.25 million in 2015 and is a candidate to be non-tendered and then signed to a multiple-year contract to cover his rehab from Tommy John surgery and return to baseball in 2017. The $25 million in raises includes contract raises for players like Edinson Volquez, Wade Davis, and Eric Hosmer, as well as estimated raises through arbitration for players like Lorenzo Cain, Mike Moustakas and Danny Duffy. Moore said he doesn't have a budget for next year yet, which is normal at this point. But if these numbers are close, the Royals are well-positioned for the offseason. Moore's message, however, is consistent prudence, patience, and smart spending rather than a shopping spree. "We don't want to put ourselves in compromising positions," he said. "We don't want to be vulnerable going forward where we don't have flexibility. We don't want to end up as one of those organizations that's made foolish decisions or signed players to overly aggressive contracts, which I've done in the past. I've learned from that." When Moore talks about "overly aggressive contracts," he means more in terms of length than size. The Royals caught a break when Gil Meche made what might be an unprecedented decision to retire and walk away from the last year of a five-year, $55 million contract. The Royals reinvested that money in the farm system, most notably in signing Raul Mondesi, now the team's top prospect. It would be foolish to expect that type of fortune again. It is nearly impossible to imagine the Royals meshing this pledge for prudence with Gordon's price on the open market, which is certain to be bigger than any contract the franchise has ever signed and likely to be much bigger. He turns 32 in February, and even going into last offseason, team officials mentioned wanting to massage their roster in a way to lessen the stress on Gordon's body. He played only 104 games last year, slowed by a wrist injury in the spring and a groin injury in the summer. Rival scouts notice less speed around the bases, and less ground covered in the outfield. He is still a very good player, but time takes its toll on all professional athletes. Gordon's place in Royals history is secure. He is the team's best player since George Brett, a lock for the team's Hall of Fame, and as good a case as anyone else to be just the fourth man whose number the team retires. His ties to Kansas City are real though he no longer lives here in the offseason and might motivate him to take slightly less money. But to stay here, he would have to take such a smaller contract that Moore and his assistants know they need to make other plans. His story with the Royals is beautiful. He went to games in Kansas City as a kid, and has a brother named after Brett. He was drafted by the local team, and after working through some professional struggles, came to help lead them from decades of futility to the top of the baseball world. That kind of thing doesn't happen all the time in professional sports. That's worth remembering, and celebrating. Because the story that does happen all the time in professional sports is coming. It's the one about an athlete signing an enormous contract, one the Royals are unlikely to match. Sam Mellinger: 816-234-4365, @mellinger |
Everyone already had assumed we won't match a max contract if it gets huge. We aren't relying on outbidding anyone.
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I believe that article was essentially a plant from the front office. They're resigned to losing him, and they're putting it out there so fans aren't as shocked when he goes elsewhere. They must feel strongly that teams are going to give Alex 4/5 years, and we were probably hoping for 3 years. I can't imagine Alex wearing another uniform, it pisses me off to think about actually. But I can't disagree if we don't sign him to a 5 year deal.
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I don't know if it's a plant, but at best, it reflects what someone in the front office has told Mellinger privately. They know it's going to be a PR blow.
Dayton and Yost had their end of year press conference today, and Moore was pretty specific in saying his philosophy is to pay for future production, not past performance. I wouldn't be surprised if the Royals would go 4.... that's through his 35 year old season. But I can see them not liking a 5 or 6 year deal. Especially if they hope to try and re-sign some of the younger guys on the team. |
I too believe the story was a plant - but letting him walk is the right move for anything >4/80 imo. So.... He gone.
I'm not happy, but I'm good with it from an organizational health standpoint. |
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I truly believe we need Gordon if we want to be a serious threat to win the world series again. We haven't done great getting good RF production lately from outside sources and the thought of having to fill two outfield spots with unknowns is not very exciting or encouraging.
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they're going to do things on the cheap. Can't really complain about it, it worked. Somehow.
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Maybe we'll get lucky and Infante will retire.
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Alex can obviously get more elsewheee, but I'm hoping being a Royal and playing with this team keeps him here. If not, I appreciate what he's done and good luck
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L - Parra C - Cain R - Fowler 3b - Moose SS - Esky 2b - Infate 1b - Hoz C - Salvy P Gallardo Volquez Medlin Ventura ? BP Hoch Herrera Davis Duffy |
I can't be the only one that thinks Dyson would do just fine in LF.
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4/80 is paying 1/5th or 1/6th of your payroll for a 35 year old to roam the outfield. I like Gordon too but I doubt the Royals are going to make that kind of offer. |
Cardinals were fine after Pujols left. Royals were fine after Shields left.
They will be fine after Gordon leaves. Trust the process. |
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Obviously, Moore has a pretty good idea of how to run a baseball team. |
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Parra and Fowler are not awful pieces to try to fill in things with, and Fowler would actually fit pretty nicely hitting 2nd (switch hitter, good OBP). But it would be pretty hard to watch Gordon walk, even if it is a smart business decision. Gaillardo makes sense given his history with Yost, but I believe he may also be eligible for a qualifying offer, which could change the outlook for KC and other teams. |
What about a guy like Brett Eibner or Bubba taking over one of the corner OF spots?
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Starling is such a questionmark that i wouldn't be surprised if we didn't see him in the majors for another 3-4 years, if ever. But he could also start the season THIS year with a great spring... just such a wildcard. |
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The article mentioned a drop-off in his speed. Frankly, I didn't see that except maybe on the base path. The groin injury may still be bothering him and that should be good by the time the season starts next year. Straight speed in the outfield seemed to be OK to me. |
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I wonder if the loss of speed is the leg, just not 100% yet, it should be but some people don't heal as quick as they age.
He still has a few years left in the OF while if he increases his power#'s a bit, he can always DH somewhere in his later years. Being a gifted athlete, he always has the option of moving to 1st base as well. |
INHO Gordon's speed has always been just enough to get him to the spot to make a diving catch. If he loses even a quarter step he falls to simply above average (he would still have the arm).
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Something like this is more accurate: They are going to spend their money wisely. They are operating in the top third of baseball in spending money, but they aren't the Dodgers and can't afford to match ridiculous offers from teams like the Dodgers. So far Dayton has spent money wisely and I trust him to do the same this year. |
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I hate the thought of Fowler anywhere near this team. He sucks defensively. We even saw it first hand this season.
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Starling will either be a MLB regular by midseason 2016 or officially busted out, IMO. That gives him another season and a half at AA and AAA, and if he hasn't figured things out by then, he likely isn't going to figure them out. I'm actually more optimistic about him than I've been in some time... He's had a good showing in the Arizona Fall League, too, after looking completely miserable, overmatched, and hopeless there last season. Agree that he's a Wildcard. There's just as much chance, IMO, that he forces his way to the majors by midseason as he spends the whole year mired at AA. I AM encouraged by comparing his progression to that of George Springer, a similar player who had the same type of instant jump at the same age. If he DOES end up hitting well enough to make the MLB roster by July or so, KC's OF D will get a big bump. Dyson/Cain/Starling, or Gordon/Cain/Starling, or Parra/Cain/Starling would be pretty beastly. I think Eibner is mostly depth. He's a better defender than I think you give him credit for here (according to people I trust reviewing him - the guy did share an OF with Paulo Orlando and hold down CF). But he's a AAAA guy right now who might be a good 5th OF/Short side platoon guy. |
Did you mean 2017 on Starling?
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I'll put the odds of Alex returning at about 20%. I love Alex, and it would hurt to see him play for someone else, but we just can't sink huge money into what truly will be a declining player.
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Can you replace his hitting? That's what is most crucial. Can you get a clutch hitter, or a consistent Zobrist type bat. If Dayton can I say let him walk and spend the money elsewhere. Dyson is a joke as a bat, hence why he's never really cracked the lineup the last two seasons except when guys need rest. If he hit like Cain letting Gordon walk wouldn't be a question.
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Yes, I did. Whoops. That would make him 25. |
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The Battle for Parra/Gordo replacement
he Detroit Tigers need pitching, lots of it in the rotation and in the bullpen and finding it is their main off-season priority.
But they need a leftfielder, too. Looking at the free-agent leftfielders, the team will have a number of choices. They could attempt a reunion with Yoenis Cespedes or try for terrific two-way player Alex Gordon. They could shell out serious money for a veteran like Ben Zobrist, whose services are coveted by 29 other teams, or settle on a platoon partner for Tyler Collins. But if the Tigers wade into the big-money waters Cespedes, Gordon and Zobrist will command lucrative, multiyear deals they would all but sacrifice their chance at landing a front-line starting pitcher, one who can slot into their top three, which is general manager Al Avila's hope. And even though the team is high on Collins, who was solid in 2015 but not spectacular enough to win the job entering 2016, the position will have to be addressed in some fashion, and most likely, a cost-effective one. That option could be Gerardo Parra, who might be a perfect fit. Parra, 28, hit .291 with 14 homers and 51 RBIs with the Brewers and Orioles in 2015. He swings left-handed, plays solid defense (won NL Gold Gloves in 2011 and 2013) and has one of the best arms in baseball. In seven seasons, he is a .277 career hitter. He doesn't fit as a platoon partner with Collins both are left-handed hitters but Parra, who made $6.2 million in 2015, could assume the everyday role, leaving Collins as the No. 4 outfielder. |
They are going to let Gordo and Rios walk and go with Dyson and Orlando probably.
That big money walking. The question is whether they do that same with Zobrist and go back to Infante. :( |
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I don't know if I buy that as a plan for the corner OF spots next year. Would be pretty weak offensively, and they've shied away from giving Dyson an everyday role when it was easier to justify (like last year, when they spent a lot on a flyer on Alex Rios). Given that Glass is on record as saying they are trying to win again next year, not just "have a good season," I don't think I can buy a Dyson/Orlando starting LF/RF combo. |
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IMO, Gordon is gone.
Dayton pays for future production, not past performance. This is how we will sustain a dynasty. |
Gordon's strong work ethic has a huge influence on the team... That would suck to have that leave... #DoubleEdgeSword
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BTW, if they bring back Zobrist, he goes to RF and Omar plays 2B. They aren't going to pay him $8MM/ to play 1 or maybe 2x's per week. |
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But I read it as those two as everyday starters, and I just can't buy that. They need a proven bat to sprinkle in there, whether its Gordon, Zobrist, or someone else. |
LF - Parra
CF - Cain RF - Starling or FA + Dyson/Orlando |
I'd really like for them to make Zobrist a priority. His versatility is a huge asset.
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The issue that's wearing me down about this discussion is that the people in favor of letting Gordo walk seem to be assuming that there is an easy and cost effective way to replace an .800 OPS bat in the lineup.
The reality is that we are either going to have to spend quite a bit to replace Gordo's production or accept a massive drop in quality in that spot of the lineup. |
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I get sunk cost, I really do, but I gar. you that Omar will be playing 2B on opening day. |
I don't think many people are in favor of letting him walk. I know I'm not. But the reality is the royals have a philosophy and they aren't going to change it at this point.
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Zobrist would offer the opportunity to do the Hootie platoon (patent pending), though.
He could play RF vs. LHP, with Infante or Colon playing 2B, and play 2B vs. RHP, with Dyson playing CF and Cain getting a 1/2 day off in RF. He makes a lot of sense. Which is why so many teams are going to chase him/he's going to be expensive. I guess the ultimate thing to keep in mind is that the core of Hosmer/Moustakas/Perez/Morales/Cain/Escobar is strong enough to give KC a lot of options. |
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I don't find the Mellinger article convincing at all. There's nothing there that we don't know. We know there will be crazy money out there. We know the Royals are hoping for a hometown discount. We know Gordon has seemed willing to discuss it. It'll probably just come down to how wide the difference is.
I don't see why people post that link and then resign themselves. It's just fluff. |
The truth is that both Zobrist and Gordon are guys that provide great leadership by example, and there are a lot of young teams that need that kind of leadership. It's valuable. We aren't a team that needs veteran leadership, because our entire team is made up of veteran leaders who know what it takes to win.
The more I think about it, the more I think Gordon walks. We may well sign Zobrist, though. If we lose Alex, Holland, Rios, and Vargas, we should have enough money ($25,000,000 or so) left to sign another solid starting pitcher and possibly a servicable RF. Sal Hoz Infante/Zobrist Esky Moose Orlando/Dyson Cain Zobrist/? Volquez Ventura Duffy Medlen Young? FA? Zimmer? I'm not sure that's a WS caliber team, though. Infante is an albatross. |
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I think that leaves enough cash to get a Gordon/Zobrist + a Mike Leake or Yovani Gallardo level SP and perhaps enough to bring back Chris Young as the swing guy, too. If you go Zobrist, it may be enough to pick up a guy like Gerrardo Parra or Dexter Fowler to play LF, too (I know Fowler has been a slightly negative defender in CF, but his D would play up/play fine in LF). |
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John Jaso is another guy I kind of covet... Not sure his D is good enough for the Royals to consider him as the backup C, but he'd be a great backup option for Perez.
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I want him back, it's good to have a guy like that to switch things up. |
I really hope to see Gordon back-winning Gold Gloves for the next five years. He brings so much to this team.
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So zobrist has said that Gordo would be the priority and he should be. But he would love it if they (him and his family) could come back. Let's hope it happens.
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No thanks to Jaso.
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KC played pretty well without Gordon. I think we'd be ok again.
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It'd certainly be nice to be able to rest Perez more. Him and Herrera/Davis have logged a ton of extra miles the last two years because we've played so late into the year. I'm guessing Ned goes easy on all three for stretches next year.
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