Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave (Post 11866455)

Yeah, and Manning even tried to give us the game early on.

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 11866477)

Yes, he did.

A good QB and a HC away...

Same as it ever was.

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 11866436)

Maybe. Essentially, you need the Colts to fix things and just win their division - reducing the Texans (tied with KC at 3-5) to nothing. You don't need a WC threat coming from this division. Looking at the Jets, Raiders and Steelers - they are the teams keeping you out right now, forget the rest. They each have a slew of tough games, so it's not impossible, but if you are a KC fan hoping for them to rally - you're going to need to follow 4 teams incredibly closely down the stretch, while hoping the Dolphins and Texans flounder.



The Jets and Raiders are both 4-3 and sitting in those final two (non div winner) spots right now.



Then, you have



Steelers, 4-4

Bills, 3-4

Dolphins, 3-4

Chiefs, 4-5

Texans, 3-5



Jets have Jaguars, Bills, @ Texans, Dolphins, @ Giants, Titans, @ Cowboys, Patriots and @ Bills.



Raiders have @ Steelers, Vikings, @ Lions, @ Titans, Chiefs, @ Broncos, Packers, Chargers, @ Chiefs



Steelers have Raiders, Browns, @ Seahawks, Colts, @ Bengals, Broncos, @ Ravens, @ Browns

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 11866486)

Another ugly road win, that game was all about turnovers.

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 11866507)

???

It was in Indy and they won.

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 11866477)

Yes, he did.

A good QB and a HC away...

Same as it ever was.

Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave (Post 11866514)

Green was just done at this point. Too bad this game didn't happen a year earlier.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 11866363)

In this league, you need to be either dominant on defense and efficient on offense (Russell Wilson, Eli), have a QB capable of stringing together a surprise run behind a solid team (Flacco, Kaepernick), or have an elite QB. Alex Smith could be B, but it's not likely.

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 11866528)

This is a playoff team. The playoff loss leads to even more feasting than not getting in for the creature however.

Originally Posted by Hydrae (Post 11866543)

This is the game that the NFL seems to want. That is what the rule changes have brought about. IMO, it has decreased the options for building a contending team. Unfortunately KC is still stuck on the idea of a strong running game and defense. That does not do it nowadays as we have all seen for too long.

One other factor that has detracted from the parity concept is that those teams with great QBs are desirable destinations for free agents. We have really seen that the last couple of years with Denver. The top free agents flocked there to be on the same team with Manning knowing that it gives them a very good chance at a championship (not that it has worked to this point! ROFL ).

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 11866544)

How many losses does the creature need to be satisfied?

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 11866546)

With the new CBA and the changes in practice, ANYONE can have a strong running game - it just takes a commitment to the run.

You can wear damn near any defense out by the 4th. But you need a QB to convert 3rd downs, string some 1st downs together...

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 11866546)

With the new CBA and the changes in practice, ANYONE can have a strong running game - it just takes a commitment to the run.

You can wear damn near any defense out by the 4th. But you need a QB to convert 3rd downs, string some 1st downs together...

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 11866556)

Vincent Kennedy Goodell has created a product so shitty that he can manipulate the results any way he wants and the nation still eats it up at the slop trough.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11866697)

The year of the championship, KANSAS CITY

royals, chiefs, Jayhawks all bring home championships in 2015/2016

30 for 30.

Prepare yourselves

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11866490)

The Jets game against Dallas will likely be a loss for them. Romo will be back.

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11866495)

But I'm more concerned about the Bills than I am the Jets.

Steelers, Raiders and Bills. I'm rooting against those guys every week from here on out.

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 11866506)

Ultimately, I think we control our own destiny. We have a very favorable schedule compared to the Raiders or Steelers and we still have to play the Raiders twice. We also own the tiebreaker with Pitt.

The only winning team we play other than the Raiders which we are in competition for a playoff spot is the Broncos.

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 11866556)

Vincent Kennedy Goodell has created a product so shitty that he can manipulate the results any way he wants and the nation still eats it up at the slop trough.

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 11866555)

If Todd Haley is the coach of this team we are 5-3.

That's the bottomline right there.

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 11866556)

Vincent Kennedy Goodell has created a product so shitty that he can manipulate the results any way he wants and the nation still eats it up at the slop trough.

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 11866728)

Dumb.

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 11866555)

If Todd Haley is the coach of this team we are 5-3.

That's the bottomline right there.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11866788)

Andy Reid as a head coach isnt much of an upgrade over Todd haley.

Holy shit man.

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11866812)

Reid hasn't done anything outstanding without Donovan McNabb and Jim Johnson. Since 2008 he's eight games above .500 -so that's awesome sauce for you, apparently- and he's 0-3 in playoff games.

Haley has a 19-26 record and 0-1 in the playoffs.

They're both two shades of mediocre with Reid trending on the "better" side of that and Haley on the shit side of it. Haley also never had the talent on a roster that Reid has had.


Aspire for ****ing better out of a team than yet another retread coach and QB. Jesus Christ.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11866817)

And bellicheck hasn't done anything without brady, Mccarthy without HOF qbs and on and on.

Once again, you're just blathering stupid accross the board.

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11866780)

4-4 at best. He's not that much of an upgrade over Reid. They're the same guy with two exceptions:

1) Reid only went as far as Jim Johnson's defense could carry him whereas Haley went only as far as Charlie Weis could carry him on his Hoverround

and

2) Reid is a player's coach and hardly ever displays any emotion during games whereas Haley was a dictator and would yell at anyone and everyone.

Beyond that they are about average level coaches, though Haley would probably dispel that notion if he ever gets another HC gig... Because unless he lucks into a franchise QB he'll fail at that job too.

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 11866726)

Tough to tell, will depend on their record and mindset at that point. That team is void of real leadership, and it isn't coming from the coach. Plus, Dallas has a sucky home record since moving to the new stadium.



Both are problems for sure.



If KC can 'win out' or go 7-1, yeah you possibly own it with a 10 win record, but even that might not assure a WC. Either way, KC needs help and specifically as it relates to IND owning their destiny and making the Texans a non-factor, they're tied with you and they're scrappy.

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 11866728)

Dumb.

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11866821)

So you're pretty much saying that all that matters is what QB you have then?

Heh.

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 11866866)

Looking at the remaining schedule for the "best of the worst" teams in the crappy AFC....I'd say KC has the best chance to make a run. Raiders have a tough schedule coming up...they could drop 5 or 6 games. Steelers have a tough go too..

Jets/Bills/Dolphins are going to knock each other out...that and the Pats.

8-8 will get a play-off spot.

Luckily for KC... 3 of their losses are against the NFC. That's a pretty big deal and own the head to head against Pittsburgh.

Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave (Post 11866894)

Chiefs should move to the NFC where 7-9 gets you to the dance. :D

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 11866866)

Looking at the remaining schedule for the "best of the worst" teams in the crappy AFC....I'd say KC has the best chance to make a run. Raiders have a tough schedule coming up...they could drop 5 or 6 games. Steelers have a tough go too..

Jets/Bills/Dolphins are going to knock each other out...that and the Pats.

8-8 will get a play-off spot...maybe even 7-9.

Luckily for KC... 3 of their losses are against the NFC. That's a pretty big deal and own the head to head against Pittsburgh.

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 11866728)

Dumb.

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11866908)

8-8 is not getting a playoff spot.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 11866760)

It's not dumb. The massive amount of rule changes favoring the QB have created major competitive imbalance and were rules designed to appease shitty fans and gamblers.

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11866780)

4-4 at best. He's not that much of an upgrade over Reid. They're the same guy with two exceptions:

1) Reid only went as far as Jim Johnson's defense could carry him whereas Haley went only as far as Charlie Weis could carry him on his Hoverround

and

2) Reid is a player's coach and hardly ever displays any emotion during games whereas Haley was a dictator and would yell at anyone and everyone.

Beyond that they are about average level coaches, though Haley would probably dispel that notion if he ever gets another HC gig... Because unless he lucks into a franchise QB he'll fail at that job too.

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 11866931)

Case in point: the pass interference that led to Denver's tying TD at Arrowhead. I could give a thousand examples. The game is becoming a pile of shit.

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 11866945)

You really think Alex or Osweiler get those two calls at the end lulz

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 11866948)

Well...Alex is old enough, at least.

No, seriously - it's how games are manipulated.

Rules are interpreted, not enforced.

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 11866957)

Holding, illegal contact, fumbles, and now receptions.

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 11866957)

Holding, illegal contact, fumbles, and now receptions. There are no rules just who has a golden boy. Storylines are built up and then magically happen. It's like watching Monday night RAW.

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 11866948)

Well...Alex is old enough, at least.

No, seriously - it's how games are manipulated.

Rules are interpreted, not enforced.

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 11866945)

You really think Alex or Osweiler get those two calls at the end lulz

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 11867050)

That's were they get you...you cant challenge a PI call...or a holding call. There is no good reason why you cant...except it's how the NFL dictates probable outcomes.

When a penalty can cost your team 40+ yards...you should be able to challenge it. Period.

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 11867050)

That's were they get you...you cant challenge a PI call...or a holding call. There is no good reason why you cant...except it's how the NFL dictates probable outcomes.

When a penalty can cost your team 40+ yards...you should be able to challenge it. Period.

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 11866957)

Holding, illegal contact, fumbles, and now receptions. There are no rules just who has a golden boy. Storylines are built up and then magically happen. It's like watching Monday night RAW.

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 11867252)

This is true, especially with Peyton's games. I have yet to understand the illegal 5-yard contact penalty.

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 11867065)

Yuuuuuuup

That is ostensibly supposed to be what replay is for, RIGHT??

With that in mind :

How many replay calls have you seen blatantly be wrong, Mike Parreerrrria\Carey in the booth even going "oh that's a bad call, I don't agree with that"??

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 11867344)

It happens more and more frequently.

Also, as a way to mask the situation, how many times have you seen the refs call an excessive amount of penalties, after the fact, on the team that benefitted from the calls that skewed the game earlier? ROFL The box shows that sometimes they even have more penalties and yards against them BUT the damage had already been done. :shake: (See Denver / KC 2013)

I just laugh when the Cheating Donx contingent here used to love to point out that "Denver was one of the most penalized teams in the league". Yep - sure were - AFTER THE FACT. LMAO