Let them underestimate him. Will make their learning curve longer as well as our enjoyment of watching him prove them wrong!

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro...of-the-season/

If nothing else, you know you are going to see big plays when watching Chiefs rookie cornerback Marcus Peters.

He is tied for the NFL lead in interceptions with eight, but has also given up seven touchdowns, a figure only three cornerbacks have topped.

He also leads the league in passes defensed with 18 (using PFF’s count that doesn’t double-count interceptions).

With a league-leading interception total, Peters is the obvious choice for Defensive Rookie of the Year for many, but as the touchdown total will suggest, there has been a lot of bad to his game as well as the good that people are all too willing to sweep under the carpet.

Peters is the most-targeted corner in the NFL this season, having been thrown at 132 times over 15 games, which is 28 more than the next corner. Truly elite players at the position do not tend to be thrown at that much, and the fact he has been suggests teams think they can beat him. Given the fact that he has surrendered 923 receiving yards and seven scores so far this season, they aren’t wrong, either. He is at least making them pay by making it a risky place to go with the football, but Peters has not been a shutdown corner this season.

The play of Sean Smith is certainly a contributing factor to Peters’ target rate, but if teams are deliberately going that way almost twice as often with the ball, just how well can Peters be playing?

The answer: Over the second half of the season, Peters has been playing like one of the best corners in the entire NFL.

It is clear that Peters’ season enjoyed a watershed at the bye week, which came for Kansas City this year after Week 8. And opponents at this point in the season seem to be working from old information. Peters is still being targeted as often as ever, but his numbers have been better in every other category. Before the bye week, Peters averaged 5.4 receptions allowed from almost nine targets per game, for an average of 72.1 yards. After the bye, he is averaging just 3.6 receptions for 49.4 yards on the same nearly nine targets per game.

Before the bye Peters was allowing 60.7 percent of passes thrown into his coverage to be completed, for a passer rating of 101.7, but since the bye he is allowing just 41.4 percent for a passer rating of 25.7.

All seven touchdowns that he has allowed this season came before the bye week, meaning that he hasn’t surrendered a score over the second half of the season, and yet over that same span he has five of his eight interceptions.

Over the balance of the season Peters has had a lot of negative play to go along with his good, and there is still a very good argument to be made that Buffalo’s Ronald Darby has been the better rookie corner over 15 games, but right now Peters looks like a different player to the rookie we saw over the first eight games of the season.

Since that bye Peters has the second-lowest completion percentage into his coverage in the NFL, and the second-lowest passer rating allowed among corners, and when all of his coverage numbers are put together might have been statistically the league’s most impressive cover corner over that time, not just the best rookie.

Defensive rookie of the year or otherwise, Peters looks to be firmly on the right track, and on the way to something impressive for a Chiefs team that will be playing in the postseason this year.

Bills fans getting butt hurt cause of Peters.

That's one of the only cons you can point to in Peters game and it's easily fixable.

That Cincy play was crazy but Peters thought the play was dead and let the receiver get behind him, then couldn't recover in time. Just need to play to the whistle.

But like I said, If that's the biggest hole in your game then you are pretty ****ing good.

Peters biggest problem is going to be double moves.

Good QB/receivers ate him up with those last year.

Did you read the article that you posted? He was likely the best cover corner the second half of the season. I don't think any QB/WR combo "ate him up" on anything.

Peters biggest flaw is actually his tendency to have his eyes in the backfield too often.

It's part of what allows him to come up with so many interceptions, but it also allows his receiver to get open more easily because he's not fully aware of where he is going.

I don't mind him doing it, and obviously you're going to in zone coverage, but he could stand to cut back a little on it at times.

I like Crabtree fueling the fire of those Oakland-KC matchups to come. It's clear from that video that there is a distinct dislike for Peters.

And that's about the only times he got beat.

Eyes in the backfield and got pumped for reaction and the double move gave him trouble.

Brady got him 3 times with it and other teams will absolutely try the same thing until Peters shows he will stay with the play and keep his eyes off the QB.

It's also clear that he doesn't want to provide any bulletin board material for MP.

Did you hear him talk about Maclin/Alex?

With Alex he had to mention how it never worked out for them on the field. Very obvious he blames Alex for that (when he's just not a real #1).

Then with Maclin, "Who would've thought Maclin and Alex would be a good duo?". He came off like a bitter bundle of sticks in all of these. Can't wait to see Peters push his shit in.

I didn't catch that vibe at all

Then you're probably terrible at reading people. It was pretty obvious to me that he's salty.

He legit starts off that video with a huge ass smile on his face as he says he likes Alex Smith and that he's a good dude.

I never said he doesn't like Alex, but calling the guy a "good dude" and then following it up with everything else he says, it's pretty clear how he feels about Alex the football player.

He's not going to come outright and tell you exactly how he feels. You have to read between the lines. What do you expect him to say with cameras on him?

"I don't know why it never worked out with us on the field." It's pretty clear who Crabtree is hinting at is to blame for that when he said what he said in Maclin's video. He essentially said "I can't believe Maclin had success with Smith, because that guy couldn't get me the ball to save his life."

Demaryius Thomas also hates Peters. Remember in Mile High last year when he got so frustrated he started shoving him?

Love it

You mean the part where he says "People talk about him but he stays in the playoffs. The only thing he hasn't done is won a Super Bowl"?

And of course he "blames" their issues on Smith. Guarantee if we could go inside Alex's mind he'd "blame" Crabs.

I think he showed a lot of respect for Smiff in that vid.

He got under Edelman's skin too

Yeah, Crabtree has been pretty indirectly bitter when it comes to all of those guys....

Whatever. He can enjoy his semi-pretty stat box with Carr, won't change the outcome of the game....

When both he and Alex got settled under Harbaugh, he won with Smith and no longer was considered a bust. That clearly didn't mean much to him if you're saying 'it never worked out'....

Selfish, that's all I get out of that from Crabtree.

Give me a ****ing break. He gave the generic answer anybody would give for Alex.

I don't see how you don't see the insult in "Who would've thought Alex and Maclin would be a good duo?". I mean seriously, how would you take that if you were Alex?

Exactly. Do you really think Alex would refer to their situation the same way?

Crabtree is a bitch.

His college career has made him delusional. He thinks he's so much better than he really is.

Maclin has VERY good hands but he's mostly been known as a speedy vertical threat on explosive offenses for much of his career. Our offense is not explosive and our QB has a shit deep ball. Crabtree's assessment wasn't too far off the mark of a lot of non-Chiefs fans prior to the 2015 season.

Thankfully Maclin is just that good. Easily our best offensive player aside from Jamaal.

His college career has made him delusional. He thinks he's so much better than he really is.

You want to know why Alex has had more success with Maclin than you?

Because you're a #2 at best, not a #1.

Get Crabtree's dick out your ****ing mouth.

Maclin gets separation. Crabtree doesn't. Maclin is a #1. Crabtree isn't. Those "non-Chiefs fans" are idiots

I hate Crabtree but I hate you more

Good. I couldn't give two shits about you personally.

So where do you think Catapano will fall on the list?

Lol I guess I've been right a lot more often than I've been wrong when that's your (and everybody else's) "go to". I said Cat could be a good situational pass rusher and I was wrong (for now). Big ****ing deal.

Has nothing to do with you being an idiot and clearly losing this argument. Nice try though.

NFLN Top 100 Players of 2016 starts tonight. Which Chiefs make it?
 

You tapped out.

I only mentioned Catapano because you brought up cock sucking.

Lol I tapped out?

The last thing you said was that you hated me, and then you brought up Cat.

I'm not sure you know what "tapping out" is, because that's exactly what YOU did.

I said this:


Then you said this:


That's when you tapped.

"Maclin gets separation. Crabtree doesn't. Maclin is a #1. Crabtree isn't. Those "non-Chiefs fans" are idiots"

I don't know if the mention of Crabtree's dick made you miss this part or what?

In case you didn't get my point, Crabtree thinks he's better than he is and that's why he's in total shock at the success Smith/Maclin had together. It was all Alex's fault, and now some miracle happened and Alex had success with a WR that isn't that much better than he is (in his delusional mind). I mean the guy literally said "Why couldn't he throw the ball to me like that?" Are you ****ing reeruned?

For claiming to hate the guy, you're trying really hard to defend him when everybody else clearly saw what I saw.

You edited that second part. When I originally saw and quoted it, the part about Maclin getting separation wasn't in it. Are you going to deny that?

Most EVERY player thinks they're better than they truly are.

And that's where we disagree yet again. "Total shock"? You're exaggerating. All he said was "Who knew Maclin would be a good fit for Alex Smith". Then he said something to the effect of them establishing good chemistry and that they balled out or something.

I just don't see a ton of butthurt in his comments.

NFLN Top 100 Players of 2016 starts tonight. Which Chiefs make it?
 

Stop editing your shit so much.

He specified that he was talking about the deep balls that Alex was throwing Maclin last season.

I still don't see any problem with it. When Kaep stepped in after Smith got hurt, Crabs' production exploded immediately.

What does it matter whether I edited it or not? You still saw it and had the oppurtunity to add a rebuttal, but you chose instead to change the subject entirely. You tapped bro, it's ok.

Also, I guess you missed the "Why couldn't he throw the ball to me like that?" part. That's two comments that reek of him being salty. It doesn't take a ****ing shrink to read between those lines.

I'll edit my shit as much as I want. It's not like I'm doing it 5 mins later. It's before it can even add the edit notification.

He got the ball to Maclin deep more than Crabtree because Maclin is actually a ****ing deep threat and not a possession WR like Crabtree.

You edited it AFTER I originally saw it and responded. I didn't even see that you had added that bit until I went back to quote it again.

Doesn't matter anyway. It really isn't entirely factual. Crabs had nearly 1,000 yards and 9 TDs as a #2 last season. He CLEARLY isn't that bad.

And, again, he was specifically talking about the deep balls. Do I need to get a ****ing transcript for you to read? Which, AGAIN, isn't incredibly out of left field. As I said, his numbers boomed almost immediately after Kaep assumed the starting job.

Crabtree complaining that Smith couldn't get him the ball deep "like that" is a clear example of how delusional that guy is.

If you can't see that, you're a ****ing moron.

You're approaching Dane-level debate tactics right now. You're arguing shit I never argued.

You just said Crabtree was referring to the deep ball as if it supported your argument.

Girls, girls, girls. Settle the **** down.

I got a little sidetracked because you keep making new arguments. My argument from the start has been that your assessment of Crabs' feelings toward Alex were off base.

I'm making new arguments? No, I'm just not talking myself in circles like you are. I keep using examples to show you how you're wrong and you're ignoring them.

Whatever though. I guess everybody else that saw it is off base too. You're the only ****ing reerun that can't read between the lines.

I'm aware that Crabtree does not simply hate Alex. I'm aware he had some nice things to say. That doesn't change the fact that he threw some shade.

Like pugs said, why would he describe their situation as "not working out" when they won?

Why would he say, "Why couldn't he throw me the ball like that?"

There's clearly some saltiness in those words for anybody that can see through the "he's a good dude" bullshit.

Right. Let's focus on something important such as how many Broncos we think will make this list when it's all said and done.

You've gone from Crabs insulted Alex to Crabs is a #2 at best to Crabs isn't as good as Maclin to Crabs is delusional.

I'm saying he didn't seem all that butthurt to me and his comments about it "not working out for them" and "why couldn't he throw me some of those deep balls" aren't entirely off the mark given what happened almost immediately after Smith was benched.

I'd imagine he was saying it didn't work out for them so well because, well, it really didn't. As a QB-WR1 duo they underperformed which no doubt had an effect on the potency of their offense overall.

:facepalm:

Not one of those comments is innacurate or contradicts the other, and for the most part they go hand in hand.

They didn't "work out" as a QB-WR1 duo because Crabtree isn't a true ****ing #1. Never has been. Never will be. His skill set is that of a #2. He doesn't see this, hence me calling him delusional. Maclin is a true #1, hence my point there.

He's insinuating that was Alex's fault ("Why couldn't he throw ME the ball like that?"), and that he's all of a sudden become a different QB, which is false. He's not a ****ing deep threat. If he thinks he is, he's even more delusional than I thought.

The reason why I say he insulted Alex is because he acted like it was a big ****ing surprise that Alex and Maclin had any success together. It was his way of saying I'm surprised he could get him the ball. If that's not an insult to your former QB, I don't know what is.

He has shown the ability to be a true #1, specifically while he was playing with Kaep in the latter half of 2012 including a pretty stellar postseason as well as another pretty good postseason game in 2013.

Shit, even as a #2 with Derek Carr he had a better season statistically than Cooper in some categories.

Skill set isn't the end-all-be-all in determining starter potential. Bowe, Boldin, Rice, Roddy White, etc are all possession receivers who have been #1s throughout their career.

Congrats to Marcus Peters.

Also, stop arguing about Smith. People are just going to have their own opinion about him, right or wrong. He's the QB of this team right now, nothing you think or say will change that fact. So chill.

:facepalm:

Argument ends here.

Jesus. Stop quoting dane jr.

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Another Chief to be named soon... Very likely Berry.

There's Berry, #55.

Only Justin Houston remains for the Chiefs.

The link in the OP is Dez Bryant not Eric Berry.

It must have updated with each announced player.

I'll fix it.

Blake Bortles #56. Insane.

He will be a lot higher next year. Dude is on the short list of QBs thats leading the new generation of franchise QBs once Tom, Drew, Phillip, Eli, Ryan and others retire in the coming years.

The Jags defense is going to be a lot better as will be its receivers.

I think that division will be a dogfight with the Jags and Texans...and the Colts only have Luck, who will get a 6 year 150m deal done soon.

It's a fantasy football league, dude. Bortles put up ridiculous numbers last year (ridiculous for Jax, anyway).

I loved Bortles coming out and I agree with all of that, but that is just way too high. He should be closer to Alex and Carr's range. 18 INT's and some downright terrible games. I think he gets there eventually though.

I'm aware of that, but that's still way higher than I ever thought he'd be.

Due to irresponsible shit-talking, I had to watch six Bortles games this past year.

...I've no ****ing clue what he's going to do. There are periods where he looks excellent and some that are reminiscent of Thigpen.


JMO.

I think he's already there.

vs Saints 27 for 35 368 yards 4 touchdowns 2 ints
vs Titans 24 for 36 322 yards 5 touchdowns
vs Bucs 23 for 33 303 yards 4 touchdowns 1 int

THOSE ARE ALL GAMES THE JAGS LOST. With that kind of QB performance, their defense was that bad.

If a Chiefs QB has 3 games like that we have a shot at the Super Bowl.

Did you even look at those teams? Saints, Bucs, and Titans? ROFL

He also had 5 games with 2+ INT's, and 12 games with at least 1. Not to mention he was under 60% in 9 games and on the season, with two games under 50%. He put up some big #'s against shit competiton throwing to one of the best duos in the NFL, but he was absolutely awful in some games. The Chiefs don't even make the playoffs with Bortles as their QB in 2015.

Yea that's the point, Jags defense couldnt stop even the Saints, Bucs, Titans, teams you are suppose to beat/stop.

Chiefs stomp those teams with Alex Smith, because of our defenses ability to beat up on the bad teams and/or generate stops.

Bortles doesn't have that. He has to carry his team on his back, thus his entire team will vote for him, because he is far and away the best player on the Jags.

That has nothing to do with those teams defenses. All 3 are among the worst, and not much better than the Jags. You can't just ignore those other #'s I posted though. Some of those stats are really bad.

Also, he has two WR's (also in that top 100) that make up one of the best duos in the NFL. You can't ignore that either.

If your QB throws 3, 4, 5 touchdowns in a game, your team should really win it.

Chiefs have Alex Smith throwing 1 or 2 in a game and they win by 20 points sometimes. Alex threw 0 touchdowns in a game last year and the Chiefs won 33-3.

Bortles does not have that luxory. Yes 18 picks is a lot, yes 14 fumbles is a lot. Bortles should take care of the ball, but he's more Brett Favre. But the games I pointed out he really played as best as you could and his team let him down.

Alex Smith had 1 game like that in a Chiefs uniform against Indy in the playoffs and the defense let him down and this place still hasn't forgotten it. Can you imagine if that happened multiple times a season like it does with the Jaguars?

I'll take Alex Smith's average stats, consistency, efficiency, and accuracy over Bortle's inaccuracy and gaudy stats over Bortles big stats, inconsistency, inefficiency, and inaccuracy with this team all day.

Until Bortles shows significant improvement, he is not the type of QB you can win a SB with. He would not get it done against the best defenses in the NFL with what he's shown. He couldn't even get it done against Houston's D, imagine this year when he has to play our division. There's a good chance he regresses this year.

Keep in mind, he had 10 games against the AFCS and NFCS. The two worst divisions in football last year.

Like I said, I loved this guy coming out. I think he will get there, but he might have to go backwards to move forward. This year will be a great learning experience.

As its been stated before this is the top 100 going into the 2016 season. Even so Bortles is already better than Alex Smith has ever been. I don't even think it's arguable. He's had a better year than Alex has ever had in his second year with a dog shit oline, no run game, and 2 2nd year receivers (who are studs, though... Especially Robinson). It might take a little more time since they mainly addressed the defense this offseason, but Bortles is going to be elite sooner, rather than later. Take the shades off

Hah! I called Bortles like a mother****er.

Negrodamus.

:facepalm:

Just to give you guys an idea how ridiculous it is to say Bortles is already better than Alex Smith, let's take out Bortles big games against the Titans, Saints, and Bucs and what do you have?

13 other games: 25 TD's, 15 INT's. Under 60%.

Stop looking at just season totals to base your opinions. If you're gonna be a stat whore at least look a little deeper.

It's also just his 2nd year in the league and he was plus 10 there. That's not bad. It's different than our qb though.

But Bortles isn't asked to just manage it like smith is. Possibly because he can't but he's asked to be more aggressive and sling it around. Turnovers happen and the guys who can sling it like that and not turn it over are your manning and rodgers.

25 TD's/15 INT's and under 60% in 13 games just isn't getting it done. You guys are looking at the totals. Look deeper.

10 games against the AFCS and NFCS. The two worst divisions in the NFL last year.

Guaranteed his #'s don't look as good this year with the division improving, and playing the AFCW and NFCN.

Bortles and Carr are kinda like Favre/Cutler. They make some great plays with their arms and can fill the stat sheet, but they also make some of the stupidest mistakes turning the ball over.

We swept the Raiders last year BC we forced Carr into making bad plays bc of pressure. And we didn't even have Houston for either game ROFL

Seriously go look at the stupid ass turnovers Carr gave to us last year. He needs to clean that shit up.

Take away Alex Smith's best 3 games last year, what's the total.

Bortles is a 2nd year player. Shit happens

I don't see why anyone should give a shit to trip over these rankings.

Alex has been steadily good these last 4 years.. Bortles is starting to look like a good QB in his second yr as well. Bortles put up some nice production, but it does look like it comes at a cost.. that cost being 26 turnovers in 2015.. though the high TDs and yardage balance this more. The Jags defense has been bottom tier, so this typically would boost a QB's numbers.. both the good and bad.

Big year for Bortles to clean his game up and prove where he is.

Nick Foles had 27 TD's and 2 INT's with a 64% completion percentage (10 starts) in just his 3rd year. Not to mention it was against better competition, without one of the leagues best WR duos. Stats can obviously be misleading when trying to project a young QB's future.

They were 3 shootouts against 3 other shit teams (Titans, Saints, Bucs) with terrible defenses, AND they still lost all 3 games. You have to take those games out of consideration just so you can get a better idea of how bad he really was for the most part.

You guys clearly haven't seen just how bad he was in those other games. My best friend is a Jags fan and I live in Florida, so I'm going to assume you guys aren't idiots and just haven't seen it for yourselves.