I love Jones. We lucked out getting that guy in the 2nd. Top 10 talent in my opinion.

Bonus: hilarious.

I wanna see Russell. He balled out when he played.

Russell should see playing time, as should Jones.

If Jones isn't in the rotation, then either he sucks or Nick Williams and Nunez-Roches has stepped up big time.

Colts are terrible at safety. Wonder if they'd give up some stuff for berry.

Like what? jesus I have a hard time thinking of ANYTHING they I have that I would want.

Draft picks?

I'd take a second rounder and either Dwayne Allen or Donte Moncrief for Berry

Moncrief for sure.

Take Moncrief and get rid of Rod Streater's $4.8 million dollar cap hit this year.

This is pure fantasy, however. If the Chiefs trade Berry, I have to think it would be to an NFC team like the Giants, Falcons, 49ers or Bears. Teams desperately looking to upgrade their defense.

I don't know guys, I'm just not on board with the Berry panic.

Why are we so sure he's going anywhere anyway? Yeah, they didn't come to terms but I still remember when many were suggesting we trade Justin Houston just over a year ago too... that turned around quick.

If Berry and the Chiefs still want a long term deal together as they say, I don't think we should count it out by any means. There are plenty of ways to create the cap space between now and next offseason.

I'm actually more concerned with the front 7 business right now. Plenty of ?'s to be answered.

Can Ford hold it down until Houston is back? When will 50 in fact be back?

Will Poe play his way out of KC and if so will Chris Jones prove to be a capable replacement?

Offensively I'm looking for Chris Conley and Tyreek Hill to win starting jobs at the WR position.

"Many" meaning two drooling reeruns-- Blackbob and that kcbubb idiot

The Chiefs cannot discuss a new contract with Berry so if they intend to keep him after the 2016, they'll need to place the Franchise Tag on him again (which will increase his salary 20%) or let him hit free agency.

Personally, I'd rather the see tag rescinded, which will result in a 2017 3rd round comp pick, or trade him for a 2nd or higher. If they let him go in 2017, the 3rd round comp pick won't be available until 2018.

Also, it's one thing to pay a guy that led the league in sacks and plays a premium position as the highest at his position in the league, and it's quite another to pay a safety $12 million per with $36 million guaranteed.

That's a waste of resources.

If they rescind the tag, the Chiefs could pretty much control the 2017 draft with at least two 3rd round comp picks (Berry & Smith), a couple of 4th's (Allen and Stephenson) and probably a 5th for Tyvon Branch. Considering the picks will be tradeable next year, the Chiefs could seriously upgrade their roster.

I would be on board with the trade idea if A) Berry made it known he wanted out or B) We weren't knocking on the SB window so to speak. It's been said a lot and the team will continue to be good if you draft well, but we haven't been more set for a long playoff run in recent memory. Berry is a nice piece of that puzzle.

If they rescind the tag.....couldn't they then agree to a long term contract with him?

Not saying that it would happen.....but it's at least a possibility.

Yes, he'd be a free agent and eligible to negotiate with any team.

IMO, they should have put the Transition Tag on him instead of the FT. Let him see how much he's worth in the open market and if it's too much, don't match it and move on.

But seriously, how about all of the hype around Hill? It just keeps coming. Reminds me of Peters last year.

If that dude is everything he's cracked up to be and you get a solid #2 in Conley, the offense is legitimately going to be a handful and then some.

At this point, I have higher hopes for Hill than Conley.

Conley didn't rip it up in the offseason or in training camp (in which he missed most of due to the ankle injury) and by all accounts, Hill was the star of the offseason program.

Mike Williams, who played with Goodwin in Buffalo (one of the fastest players in the NFL), said "I haven't seen anything like this."

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2016/7...hing-like-this

We were talking with Tyler Bray when the rookies and quarterbacks were arriving to Kansas City Chiefs training camp this week when someone asked which receivers stood out to him during OTAs. Usually quarterbacks will say they all looked good or something like that. But Bray thought for a second and said Tyreek Hill stood out to him.

Hill, the Chiefs fifth round pick, has had plenty of publicity, not all of it good. The one good thing though has been the talk of his speed. It seems like those who play with Hill are shocked by his speed.

Chiefs WR Mike Williams played with 2012 Olympic long jumper and Bills WR Marquise Goodwin in Buffalo. With that context, here’s what Williams said about Hill:

“Quick man, fast,” Williams said via quotes from the Chiefs. “That speed. I played with Goodwin in Buffalo, and I haven’t seen anything like this. He’s quick and fast, and I can’t wait till the world gets to see him.”

Phillip Gaines called him a special player.

Hill has the rare combination of speed and quickness, evidently. Not a one trick pony.

And while I am in no way suggesting that we have the next Antonio Brown on our hands, it's worth noting that they are nearly the same exact size, drafted in the same general area, and apparently freaky quick and able to make some really special plays. If he can be half of AB, we've hit it out of the park.

As long as Hill allows us to dump Thomas.....I'll be happy.

Trade him to the 49ers. Get a 5th or even a 6th, which would make up for the lost of next year's 6th.

Thanks, Goodell.

Hill is going to be ridiculous with Toub.

I'm starting to understand why Reid and Dorsey thought Tyreke Hill was worth the baggage.

1, 2, 3, 3 (Berry), 3 (S. Smith), 4, 4(Allen), 5, 6 (Stephenson), 6 (Branch), 7

This would be our haul. Insane

There is a limit to the number of comp picks a team can get. It is either 3 or 4, don't remember which.

It's 4.

Too bad Hill is human garbage.

As long as he keeps it clean from here on out I have no problem cheering for a player rather than a person if you see what I mean.

I am starting to understand exactly what kind of speed he has.

Percy Harvin was a huge track star, first athlete in Virginia to win five track medals the same day. His personal best was 10.43 in the 100, 21.19 in the 200. That’s fast as hell for high school.

Tyreek Hill's personal bests were 9.98 in the 100, 20.14 in the 200. That's Maurice Greene-fast. His 200 time was 1/100 of a second off the high school record. Apparently he clocked a 4.25 40 once. The fastest 40 ever in the NFL was Chris Johnson at 4.24.

If the dude matures and admits he was wrong and makes a consistent effort to be a better man going forward, I don't see the reason for hate. If he was acting like Greg Hardy had, that's one thing, but to our knowledge he isn't at all.

Give the kid a chance. He can't right the wrong but he can help set the new standard for the DV nonsense going forward.

**** Hill

Where's the safe space where I can talk about Hill's speed and not have to talk about domestic violence thanks I'll hang up and listen.

Or they could sign him to a new contract after the 2016 season ends and before 2017 free agency begins.

No way that would happen, unless they overpaid by like 30 percent. He's going to want to test the market.

I'd imagine this is the last year we see Berry in a chiefs uniform.

Nowhere.

Hill is forced to let time heal his public image. He can do things to expedite the process once his career gets going like donate time and money to domestic violence prevention and victim recovery organizations. Until then, however, while he's still a faceless rookie in his first NFL training camp, he deserves to be subjected to random people on the internet saying, "He's a really fast guy but a total piece of shit human being." And that's as he's going through his mandatory probation and counseling.

Will some people not care as long as he's scoring TDs for the Chiefs? Probably. But there will be a ton of the fanbase especially in his first season who won't accept him no matter how well he does. He's going to have to prove to people that he's a different person now, and that just takes time.

Nice to see that beating women becomes forgivable if you're athletic enough and play for "my" team.

If this guy played for Denver I wonder what Chiefs fans would say.

Not that it matters in here but Harvard beard boy signed one year for 12 mil.

It does matter. QBs we will face the first month of the season: Rivers, Osweiler, Fitzpatrick and Roethlisberger without Bryant and possibly Bell if his suspension holds up.

Am I the only one not certain the division is ours? Houstons injury loss of Sean smith Alex smith sucks..

You've been here a LONG time. You know EXACTLY what this board would say.

#hypocrites

nicely written

He would probably slap you around after he got done railing you.

I'm as big of an Alex Smith critic as you'll find and even I think we win 12 games this year (maybe more). This team has more answers than questions IMO. Just gotta stay healthy.

I'm with you. I think the addition of Schwartz gave us 2 wins. 11-5 last year .

Give me a 13-3 season

There's no reason we shouldn't beat The Raiders, Broncos and Chargers twice each.

I'm with SNR, that was a "fair and balanced" take

It will take time and real effort to rehab his image with many people and rightly so

But lets be honest, literal murderers are released from prison every day and allowed to pursue their lives once again... so I see no real reason begrudge this guy a second chance

Not that I condone anything he did...I think what he did is despicable, but I know what you mean. It is what it is and it's never going to be what it isn't until it's not anymore, so whatever. I just want to hear/read/discuss how the dude is doing on the field.

With that said, man...in interviews, he comes off as the type of guy who would score a 2, maybe 3 on a Wonderlich test. Good...gracious. I am curious as to what his score was.

I think great athletes should get a 3 strike chance. I mean, if you're a great athlete that means you're an aggressive person. If you're an aggressive person your gonna choke a bitch when she tries to **** you up. Maybe for every 3 Ko's returned for a TD you get to choke 1 bitch. I don't know . just thinkin out loud.

I think I see where you're going with this. Now I'm just spit balling but how about a 50% reduction in the child support said player has to pay if he was instrumental in the team making the playoffs. And a trip to the Super Bowl would make it a 90% reduction.

I railed against the selection from the minute it happened. There's really not much more I can say about it and there's certainly nothing I can do about it.

I hope the kid is a home run for the Chiefs but more importantly, he stays on the straight and narrow.

That said, it's going to be difficult to root for him, especially in the short term.

Stump, I'd like to see what your and Hog would do with our welfare system. Children would die of course, but I suspect we'd see some dynamite athletic performance. It's stuff like this that makes CP great.

2-2

What did Hill do anyway?

That's worst case scenario.

Huh? Where have you been?

0-4 would be worst case


Didn't pay much attention to the draft this year. You gonna tell me or not?

Beat up his pregnant girlfriend or choked her after she told him the baby was his buddy's.

LOL Wow. That's some Maury shit right there.

i'll tell you what I heard: He put his pregnant girlfriend in a headlock as she was going to get a butcher knife (which she had threatened him with on prior occasions). He had also just found out from said pregnant girlfriend that "their" kid, wasn't his, but a friend of his. So yeah, he screwed up big time, but it's not like he killed anyone either. He's been blasted by just about everyone around here as being a total jerk, lowlife, scum of the earth, etc. BUT, he can run fast. Very, very fast.

Yep and I think it wss quite a bit more than a headlock fun the article s posted around draft time

Damn, did he have any prior shithead history?

I don't think so. He disputed her claims but plead out and apologized for doing something wrong

Speed can't be taught and we need it for this offense. Let's hope he's not another violent jerk. He has owns up to his mistake so we need to get over it. Hopefully he has straightened up.

Scroll down for a FB post about an unspecified event.

it will be a PR nightmare if he does something again while on the Chiefs

I'd love to see every poster on here's rap sheet before they go off spewing disdain on a kid who made an awful mistake in college.

Him and the victim have moved past it and are trying to improve their lives going forward, good thing we have the "holier than thou" crowd here to make sure the past never escapes him. Not sure what more you'd want from the guy other than what he's done.

Nah, they'll just cut him immediately and move on.

No one will ever touch him, again.

It'd be worse than Ray Rice, who still can't get a job.

Oh, some ho went after him with a meat clever so he put her in a head lock to keep himself from getting killed therefore he's labeled as a choker. Pfft!

Bring us some TD's Tyreek .

If a team thought that Rice could still produce, he'd have job.

Wut?!?!?!?!?!

0-4 is worst case scenario...not 2-2!!!!!!!! Haven't you learned from recent to semi-recent Kansas City Chiefs seasons that anything is possible with this team in terms of having unpredictably shitty starts?!?!?!!!!?!?!?!?! 2011, 2012 and last year are good examples. Be honest with yourself...what did you think were worst case scenarios in those seasons??? We started out 1-3 in all 3 of those seasons. Personally, I thought we had a shot of starting out better than that in all 3 of those seasons, but nope!!!!!!!!

I guess, all in all, what I am trying to say is this:

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I said that you'z a hoe-Murr!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hell even if he does something with the Chiefs on the field, it will probably put a previously not present magnifying glass on his past by general NFL fans. A lot of Chiefs fans know the situation by now, but if I were to ask the random Packers or Bears fan who walks by me what they think of Tyreek Hill's past, they'd probably respond with, "who the **** is that???"

If he starts scoring some fantasy points for people, a lot more people will know about his past and it'll probably be discussed a bit more, potentially on ESPN.

So, pussies may get mad at dicks once in a while, because pussies get ****ed by dicks. But dicks also **** assholes, O.city. And if they didn't **** the assholes, you know what you'd get? You'd get your dick and your pussy all covered in shit!

I have a hard time believing that he can't get even get a training camp invite in the NFL or CFL because his skills have declined to that point, especially when scrubs are signed to 90 man rosters every day.

Are they still together?

The last time I watched a game in which he was the featured back, he had lost almost all of his juice, it seemed...And this was a couple years ago. I remember the announcer making the comment about how he "looked like a kid wearing a winter coat and thick snow pants, trying to run through snow."

Not sure what his deal was that year, but man, he looked terrible. Maybe he was dinged up...???

Yes, technically 0-4 is "worst case scenario". All I'm saying is I see this team being 2-2 at worst after the first 4 games. If thinking this team can at least win two home games against the Chargers and Jets, or steal a game in Houston with Watt out or not at 100% makes me a homer then so be it. We played 3 of those 4 teams last year for a combined record of 4-0. I personally think that's a very fair assessment for an acending team with the best/most balanced roster we've had in my lifetime.

Oh yea, and go **** yourself. You're trying way too hard dude.

The Chiefs barely beat SD at home without Houston last year. We also lost in 2013 when our pass rushers got hurt that game.

If Dee Ford does nothing then we could very well lose that game. That game could literally be riding on him.

Homie, if it's one thing I know for sure, it's that in these exchanges we've had about you being a homer, it's that you try wayyyyyy harder trying to prove that you are simply rational and not a homer, than I spend clowning around about how much of a homersexual you are. Which is fine...being a homersexual. By all means, NTTAWWT!!!!

And Dee Ford was the MVP of that game, the irony.

We get it RunKC, you think it's all on Dee Ford. I, unlike you, am not that worried about him, and fully expect improvement.

The Chargers are outright ****ing terrible team.

If the Chiefs lose to the Chargers at home on opening day, it'll be 2014 redux.

That's not happening.