Your football knowledge is pathetic

Strange that he's become nothing more than a possession receiver with his measurables

Keep in mind this is the same Clay that beat off to Huard and LJ 2.7

Right now Id pick them over Houston, AFC north winner, Denver, Oakland, basically all probable playoff teams other than NE.

I won't pass judgment til a see him with a above avg quarterback. Has any #2 receiver been productive with smith at the helm?

Most #1s aren't even productive with Smith.

I agree with Sutton playing zone when they didn't have a running game and it worked well for the most part. We put them in bad situations and the pass rush didn't come through and that's what killed us.

3rd and 10
3rd and 13
3rd and 7
3rd and 7

They converted all of those mostly bc we had little pressure on Brady and he had all the time in the world.

If Houston is back to himself that will change drastically in our favor.

It's not surprising, at all, considering he's not explosive off the line. He's also got tight hips, something DJ's Left Nut had pointed out when he was drafted.

I don't think he'll ever have the physicality of an Anquan Boldin but if his ceiling is a 700-800 yard possession receiver, that's great value for a 3rd rounder.

He's still got great speed and height with insane explosion off the ground. He should be a vertical and red-zone threat.

He is. Our QB missed him last week

I also think he has decent after the catch skills.

God Damnit.


Smith missed some easy TD's last week. He needs to pull his head out of his ass.



If he figures out what is wrong, this team is going to be complete.

Still blows my mind that Andy won't run more crossing routes with Conley. That's a tall ****ing guy with long arms, especially against midget CB's that Tampa will be sporting.

Andy needs to give all of the designed plays Harris gets and give them to Conley from now on. He's far more athletic and his hands are reliable.

#2 receiver based on position?

2011 - Kyle Williams: 20 catches, 241 yards 3 TDs (#1 Crabtree: 72 rec 874 yds 4 TDs)
2013 - McCluster: 53 catches, 511 yards 2 TDs (#1 Bowe: 57 rec 673 yds 5 TDs)
2014 - D' Thomas: 23 catches, 156 yards 0 TDs (Bowe replicated the year before stat wise with 0 TDs)
2015 - A Wilson: 35 catches, 451 yards 2 TDs.

This offense has had a ton of dropped passes it seems.

FYP

That's silly. He has 50 less yards this season than Maclin.

The blame for Conley's low number of receptions (27) is due to Andy Reid's game plan.

Funny how Andy can game plan in shitty Albert Wilson when Maclin's out or Tyreek Hill (which isn't a complaint - just a comparison) yet Conley see 3 passes a game.

For sure. He's made a huge leap from his rookie season. Many times, he looks like Maclin out there.

It's mind bottling why he's not more involved.

Yeah, during Maclin's worst season as a pro while dealing with injury and the loss of a friend.

Conley should be used in the slot more

We are 7-2 and in first place in the toughest division in football at week 11. WTF are you talking about?

Hey Clay

Ian Rapoport

#Patriots* pass-rusher Jabaal Sheard did not make the trip to SF to play the #49ers because of a performance-based decision.

That defense is a dumpster fire this year. Looks like Hoodie's moves are not working out for him for once after all.

God I hope that Patriots team implodes. Bart Scott was very animated this week on Inside the NFL while talking about Belichick and his way of doing things. Said if you're not part of that core 5 then you're always expendable. He said players will notice that and tend to not want to lay it all out there for him.

I watched that segment. Didn't agree with him. History has proven that it works for Bill. Not only do players lay it on the line for him, they tend to do everything asked of them. Maybe if he stays past the Brady years and things get a little worse he might lose his players, but he isn't going to in this situation.

Agreed that it's worked well for him. But lets see how it works when Brady is gone.

Our defense is tearing it up. If we can nail down the offense part, I'd start to think we've got a good shot.

People keep saying this yes the defense is doing well

What have you seen from the offense at all that makes you think there is even a slight chance of nailing it down hmmm ?

You're putting words in my mouth. I never said there has been any proof. It doesn't mean it can't happen.

Pats offense is better with Bennett but their defense is straight up trash this year.

We can absolutely beat them if we're healthy

I never said you did I said people keep saying this if the offense can get it down we have a real shot.

Where does this belief come from most of last year and almost all of this year has been a dumpster fire.

There 15th overall if our offense isn't total trash at 27th overall how can there defense be trash at 15th ?

1. Alex Smith usually plays better in the playoffs.

2. We won a playoff game last year, and I think most people think the offense is better this year when healthy.

3. We lost by 7 in NE last year to a great team in their home in January, a very tough place and time to play. That is nothing to be ashamed of. A few plays turn out differently and we win that one and go to the AFCCG against a team we had beaten already.

4. We've seen this offense play better than the last couple of weeks, when we had a number of key injuries, including at QB. Foles sucked badly two weeks ago.

1.not last year
2.Jamal is not coming back so one half of SD and the oakland game was nothing mind blowing the offense is clearly worse this year healthy or not
3.Alex had one TD and played adequate defense was not terrible just needed more from our offense they had been sucking all year and it was bound to cost us a game in the playoffs last year.
4.the offense did the best it did all season under Foles during the indy game Oakland and SD was nothing to write home about.

HAHAHAHA. ROFL

You should be a comic.

We had 422 total yards on offense

N. Foles
16-22, 223 YDS, 2 TD

Oakland chiefs

406 yards

A. Smith
19-22, 224 YDS no touch downs

Cant argue math Indy was this offenses best game.

We won both games. Yardage DOES NOT MATTER. WINS matter. At the end of the season they don't send teams to the playoffs based on the number of yards their QB threw for.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/p...6/seasontype/2

Top 5 in passing yards this season:

Drew Brees - not making playoffs

Matt Ryan - will likely make playoffs

Phyllis Rivers - not making playoffs

Kirk Cousins - could make playoffs, but probably not

Andrew Luck - not making playoffs

QBs likely to make playoffs:

Brady - #29

A. Smith - #27

Carr - #7

Seimian - #23

Flacco - #14

Osweiler - #26

Prescott - #18

Wilson - #11

Clearly passing stats don't correlate to making the playoffs.

I said in terms of offensive production is the indy game not our best game ?

And I said who gives a shit? QB numbers mean very little as far as being a playoff team, and I PROVED IT. The best teams in the league have QBs with mediocre numbers.

our numbers aren't even mediocre right now there abysmal.

You should go seek medical attention. You have to be pushing four hours.

A. Smith is two spots ahead of Brady. Did you even read my post?

I'm not even arguing at this point I'm actually astonished that people can look so blindly on stats and just say we win or Alex plays better in playoffs That's not a realistic view.

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Brady has been suspended for the better part of the season.

It's not about stats. However it is about making plays. QB's will in all likelihood have to step up and be a big part of a win to get through the playoffs. Even in the years where QBs who aren't elite won it happened. Flacco played the best football of his life when the Ravens won and they needed him to. They also needed luck. Same thing with the Giants. Eli made some incredible throws in those SB's to beat NE twice. He also had that luck.

If KC expects to get past NE, and possibly beat a SEA, they will need Smith to really step up in those games. No matter how SEA is playing now, I expect them and NE to be incredibly tough to beat in the playoffs. You aren't beating them by just playing not to lose, which is absolutely how I thought we played against NE last year. I hated how that game played out and the game plan the coaches had.

Also, while your post on QB yards bears out your point well, listing Brady as 27th and implying that as part of your support is a little disingenuous. I would have thrown an asterisk on that one.

This offense is built to win playoff games /splatbass

Not what I said at all.

I'm actually starting to lose my mind there is no defending this offense and saying well playoffs or Fantasy stats WTF!!!!!

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It's a shit offense and it was shit last year its shit this year

and it's a hell of a'lot more shit then Den was last year or this year

FACT.

We've seen Alex Smith play better in the playoffs than the regular season. It is not out of the question.

You used Tom brady suspended year stats to justify our offense JUST WHAT?!!?!??!

last year playoff alex smith would not be the year to justify it

Alex and the entire offense meh in Texas

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...visional-round

I had a momentary brain fart, but my point still stands.

it really doesn't.

we have played some of the worse defenses in the league and have looked atrocious

oakland 25
New Orleans 29
Indianapolis 28
Carolina 24
San deigo 27

The bottom will fall out our offense will look just has bad as it did against jacksonville when we play a real d again.

I'm pretty sure this means the offense will look good, since your football takes are always wrong.

Was right about New England last year and was right on KeiVarae Russell


and it's not take it's math football is math.....

Oh gee..playing in NE without half of your stars...you're brilliant.

Please tell us all how the Patriots are going to compensate for the loss of Collins/Jones?

excuses are like what ???

our offense was showing signs of trouble long before we went to new england.

No...you act like the NFL is static. Like Sutton didn't learn anything from Belichicks game-plan last winter. Like KC could withstand losing 3-4 of its best players against NE in NE. Like the Patriots wont be affected by losing 2 of its 3 best defenders.

KC was fine until a shit-ton of injuries just happened..and guess what..they still won. Take a look at the mighty Steelers and how that team handled injuries to their best players...yep, they've lost like 4 in a row.

How long have you been watching football again?...its a game of attrition.

And Dorsey has given us good depth, enough to win even if the wins aren't pretty. That is really all you can ask of a team, to keep winning despite losing key players to injury.

KC was not fine our offense 28th overall when everything was said and done the writing was on the wall that the offense was gonna cost us a game when it mattered and it did.

I agree. I also think it's reasonable for some to be concerned that it isn't trending in that direction. Hopefully we see signs of it today.

Got ya.

Some QBs are just better postseason QBs. Flacco, Eli, and Alex Smith are three I think of that people clown on but can get it done. Alex hasn't won a super bowl but he got the 49ers close and has been really good with KC. Alex Smith isn't the reason we've lost those games. Frankly, his NE game last season showed he'll make the necessary plays. Now, this is what I'm hanging my hat on since Alex is struggling right now. My hope is that today he rebounds with his best game of the year and gets his confidence back.

Since the beginning of 2001: 189-60 in the regular season. Yup, any day now, Bart Scott. "This team hates their coach."

Thread title looks like a joke now.

Too bad the Chiefs aren't built to beat the Bucs.

Chiefs are built to hang with any team in the nfl which is why this team will suck in the playoffs

Lol

Some people look like total jackasses on here now its beautiful.....

What is so funny about that post?


It's all true if this team pulls it's head out of it's ass.

It's not true at all. This team can't score 17 points on the Pats.

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Thunder stealing mother******

Read

I read your post and pulling it's head out of its ass suggests they aren't playing to their potential which is false. We're 10 games in now this offense has been bad for most of it.

oakland and indy are the only passes and Alex barely played in one

They are playing to their potential now?



Holy shit.

Lol @ this thread

Yeah its comedy gold :)

Is Pete Grathoff, Tigerbob?

We couldn't beat the Browns the way we played today