Turn those puppies into Mahomes or Kizer if you have to Dorsey....

This.

Joke all you want but what he's saying is fairly accurate. If your mission is to obtain a true QBOTF- not just any ****ing JAG- without having to overdraft it's the right decision.

The fact that Mahomes is touted as a first rounder this year is enough to tell you how weak this class is. In a year like next year we wouldn't have to trade up to get our Mahomes.

The class is simply much better next year with guys like Rosen and Darnold coming out. It's unlikely we will get them, but what we will get is the quality of guys that follow those two- someone like Browning.

Whatever is available to us in 2018 will be much better than an Alex Smith 2.0 like Peterman this year.

The last time Dorsey had a major haul in comp picks, we still had a lot of holes to fill, but Dorsey has filled out most of the roster from the last 2 seasons.

I think Dorsey didn't move up last year due to Roger Goodell ****ing us in the ass, but now with 90+% of the roster set, it's time to find the QB and move up if so.

Hopefully Dorsey thinks very highly of someone like Peterman or Webb and snags them in rd 2 while getting an awesome player in rd 1 without giving anything up, said QB becomes a quality player for 10+ years and we are in business.

Hahaha.

First, you have no idea if Darnold will even come out. Rosen has a lot of warts and the kid from Wyoming has a big step to take to be considered a first rounder.

That class is more hype than anything so far.

I hate this reasoning so much. I really do bc it makes no sense.

1. Jake Browning will not make it out of the top 12. In fact, all these 2018 top QB's will be gone far before we ever pick and the only way to get one of them
Would be to give up 3 first rd picks + more.
2. This bullshit about talented QB's not being available is wrong. It's all wrong.

Here's the last 6 draft classes:

2016-Dak
2015-Semen..was not far off from Alex as a rookie with far less talent
2014-Carr, Teddy
2013-scratch
2012-Wilson
2011-Dalton, Kap

Looking back further, you've got Rodgers and Brees who weren't top 20 picks.

There are talented QB's who have proven they are much better (and cheaper options) than Alex. They are there often.

Stop with the "legit QBOTF hype machine". There won't be one of those unless you are picking in the top 10.
Seriously. Not one of the QB's listed above was in that category when they were drafted.

I'd take Rosen and all his flaws over any of the QBs in this year's draft.

I'd take it up the ass rather than watch Smith play QB for the Chiefs any longer.

:bolt:

Remember at the end of the 2012 draft when everybody said, "It's okay that we didn't waste picks on Ryan Tannehill. 2013 is going to be just as good of a class if not better."

The hype around the potential of Bray, Barkley, Tyler Wilson, the steady eddy nature of guys like Landry Jones and Aaron Murray (people thought he would declare early) and yes, the exciting potential of Geno Smith. That was all parroted by not only national media guys and a couple drafturbators, but ALSO the "be patient and wait for the right QB in the right class" people.

The REAL bottom line is if you like Mahomes, then go ****ing draft him. DON'T wait for better options, because it's just as likely a QB class can flop and bust just as much as an individual QB prospect can

So much truth and wisdom here. Waiting in this league gets you nothing.

I dont see Dorsey passing on a QB that he and Reid like to take one in the next draft. If a QB is there at 27 that they want then he will be a Chief. However, I don't see a QB prospect that'd move Dorsey to trade a 1st and two 3rd's to go up and get. Not in this class.

I'm not going to hold my breath on Dorsey and Reid actually being successful in finding a QB.

What's your #?

LMAO

Yeah okay cool.

We're going to have so many tackles we're not going to know what to do with them all!!!! LMAO

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Has anyone ever been able to have a conversation with this fellow? Seems like whenever you say something he doesn't agree with all you get is a snark response.

Bingo.

Nobody has a clue how next years QB class with look till next year is played out.

If there's a QB you like, go get him.

If it's a swing and a miss, swing again next year.

I'm pretty sure the scouts have some idea about the guys who could be drafted next year though.

They had some idea about the 2013 class a year before it happened.

They were dead ****ing wrong.

"Next year will be better" isn't a good strategy. You're waiting a WHOLE YEAR on an unknown instead of pulling the trigger now on the unknown.

Yeah you probably get snarky responses frequently because your ideology is shit on a consistent basis.

Wait till next year is the biggest ****ing draft cliche. **** off with that shit.

Rosen is more or less about as unproven as the QB's in this class, with a slight bump up for talent but take that away because he's coming off a major shoulder injury which is a redflag until he shows no problems from it. The 2018 hype is a lot of hopeful projecting and if I'm the Chiefs, I take a QB whenever I have the chance to get any prospect that has a high ceiling and fits the Offense.

Doesn't matter what draft class it is. If I had a dollar for everytime some Chiefs fan in a greasy pair of Zubaz bought in 1991 said the next draft class is gonna be sick bro wait till next year....check out this can't miss stud Guard, I'd have a lot of dollars.

Interestingly enough I recall Mayock repeatedly stating how that 2013 QB class scared him and that he didn't see a QB in that class worth a top 10 pick or a franchise QB in the whole lot. He's expressed the same sentiments toward the 2017 class.

He was right about the 2013 class and it's a safe bet his thinking wasnt in the minority of the scouting community. That's likely the case again this year.

Not saying this entire class of QB'S will be nothing but backups or free agents in four years like the '13 group...just that it's highly probable the scouts aren't as high on the 2017 crop of quarterbacks as fans are.

As for the 2018 class....nobody is suggesting to wait for it. But earlier was a post suggesting the Chiefs use a 1st and two 3rd round picks to move and draft a QB THIS year. Having watched and read quite a bit about this QB class, I don't think that'd be a wise move at all.

The 2018 class, however, is one where I see talent worth such a move. I never suggested "waiting" or passing on a QB in '17 to take one in '18.

"Waiting" on a QB class goes against the principles Dorsey was schooled on by Wolf which say it's best to draft a QB every year.

So it's likely the Chiefs do draft a QB in 2017...which quarterback and in what round remains to be seen. Based on how Dorsey has drafted and repeatedly stated in press conferences, however, I don't see them packaging those picks to go after one.

The bottom line is that if they're serious about winning it all this year then we have to make a change at quarterback. If Alex is our starting quarterback in week 1 then it doesn't matter what we do with our draft picks this year. A Ferrari with a Chevy Vega engine isn't going to get the job done!

They were dead wrong about 2013? The year where they traded for Smith have won for 4 consecutive years while every QB from that class flamed out.

Says the guy who thought we should have traded for Torrey Smith this year.

I know it's absurd to think next year might have better talent than a class with a bunch of guys who are 2-3 years away from playing.

Chiefs get a 3rd, a 5th, and 2 6ths as compensation picks...
 

In 2012, they were wrong about 2013.

"They" being a large portion of the media

It's more than I thought we'd get.

I'm sure we'll lose 1 or 2 for tampering or some such other bullshit...

as if you haven't already

No shit.