He and Fulton are free agents after this season. Now was the time.

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If he got a SB, his cap for 2017 certainly won't be 660k.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If Eric Berry takes anything less than $12.96M this year and a 20-percent bump for next year fully guaranteed, Chiefs are getting a deal.</p>&mdash; ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/836370509470257155">February 28, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Also very convenient since Dorsey has been talking to Chad Speck, EB's agent as well as CJ Spiller and LDT. So that probably explains the timing on the French guard and getting his deal done now

Spotrac says LDT's deal is 20 million guaranteed.
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-ci...-tardif-14611/

That's some wizard shit by Dorsey, if accurate.

Maybe because you aren't an NFL GM and dont know what the long term plan is.

This was the best time.

Osemele got stupid $$ last year and the G market is about to explode. You think LDT got paid? In 2 weeks, Zeitler, Lang and Warford are going to get $10+ million avg contracts

Don't use Twitter so not sure how to embed a tweet but...

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...61185968721920

3 years from now that 8.4 mil/year would put him just inside the top 15 of offensive guards

yea a lot of guys are going to get overpaid in FA so they are clearly trying to beat the market.

He's going to go from 4th highest paid to about 10th real quick and by quick I mean in about a week lol

This is the same ideology they had with Fisher and I don't think it has worked out for them.

Jesus.


I was expecting half that.

Which is what the contract is. $20m guaranteed for 5 years. Cheap.

**** YEAH.


I was right about something. LMAO

This is
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I reserve the right to eat my words in a month from now when the FA dust settles and we see a bunch of subpar Guards pulling in near 10m avg.

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

So you are saying this contract is.......wait for it.....


reerunIF?!

Hopefully we aren't doing this:
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Come on dude I can name 3 maybe 4 guys Dorsey has extended and overpaid for. They aren't in a shitty cap situation year after year for nothing.

Is there anyone more obnoxious than tigger? Putting up Alex's one good throw.

They're in shitty cap situations yet they are able to keep extending and signing people they want to keep.

Weird.

Technically five, kid.

Yeah that's why Poe is going to walk and CP was right there was no drop off between Gaines and Sean Smith. Hudson sucks too glad they couldn't resign him.

Well then, class dismissed

What a doppelganger...:rolleyes:

Is this guy anything more than a replacement level guard??

The old Hamas is back!

If they wanted to keep those guys, they could have.

How many of those guys they've let go have been really missed?

They've done a great job of cutting ties with guys at the right time/$ point.

Outside of Charles that is.

(cough)Hali(cough)

Ha, yeah forgot about that.

I get why they kept him around atleast

I'd argue they missed the playoffs in 14' because of the shit cap handling. Jackson or Sanders would have really helped the offense. It was laughable how they ran out McGlyn, Linkenbach, and Fulton as the guards.

I didn't lIke the Charles contract, Dorsey is lucky Bowe is a dumbass, Colquitt was way overpaid, paying a QB to throw 17 mil for 15 tds is ridiculous, Bailey hasn't done shit since being extended, Jaye Howard wasn't good last year.

Maybe I'm just annoyed this team is good enough to make the playoffs and that's it but it's hard to kiss a guys ass who's won 1 playoff game going into year 5 while watching the board put its faith into drafting Patrick Mahomes.

Forgot about this one. 7 snaps in the playoff game. Ridiculous.

The contract stuff is always going to be hit and miss like that, looking around the league.

They've drafted and developed and for the most part got their money's worth.

Now they've built the roster up, they've gotta take the next step. Well see.

We were in a really difficult situation with Ford and Houston.

Hard to really blame Dorsey on that one.

**** being a doc now

This is a boss move. "Larry" was playing good football the second half of the year and is still improving at a fast pace.

This is going to be a huge bargain deal when the $ kicks in.

I won't be surprised if Erics deal is done tonight and is announced Wendesday.

Yeah... Here's to hoping the kid improves ALOT starting next season. :BLVD:

That's alot of dough, wow, JC and Poe walking.

Next year we can get out of DJ, Tamba, and Alex's deal and create $30 million in cap room. We are fine.

The deal doesn't effect the 2017 cap in any way

How about halfway through last season? Cause Larry was pretty good after that...

Also, this line has a chance to be damn good if they stay in the weight room this offseason and improves their functional strength. Every starter on this line is very smart and uses good technique. They all need to get stronger if the running game is going to improve, though.

If they stay dedicated in the weight room this offseason, they can be vastly improved next year. Especially if Ehinger comes back improved.

Plus, we are currently already set at $30 million for 2018. In a solid spot after this year but they have to have a QB ready to take over next season.

The deal with Larry isn't just about the stats. He's similar to Berry in that he has a role that can't be measured in stats. He plays with a mean streak and has a nasty disposition. Reid likes to have a tone setter like him on the line. It goes all the way back to when he started his HC career with Jon Runyan.

Couldn't agree more. Exactly what I was thinking when we hired him. Bring him in to re-stabilize the franchise 2-3 years. As this is happening be looking for your young guy to take over long term. IMO, we should have kept Doug.

4.5 sacks allowed in 2015
2.5 sacks allowed in 2016

Only 9 penalties in 2 years and he was one of the best pass blockers amongst G's last year. Steal for a 6th rd pick.

But can he play QB?

Bingo!

Fisher isn't anything special, but honestly, you want to at all costs maintain stability on the line with young players. We're not paying an arm and a leg for him even with his extension. I'm totally fine with it.

Plus he's a young and still ascending player.

People probably don't want to admit it, but guard was actually one of our biggest needs as LDT and Fulton were going into the final year of their contracts. Now we know that the Chiefs think a lot of LDT and gave him a long term deal. I don't think the money is as crazy as some here suggest.

Smart move as it allows us to focus on drafting the best players in the draft regardless of position.

I cannot wrap my head around this one.

Can Dorsey really foresee this guy developing into an elite G.

That's the only way that I could see this being a smart move but nobody's that good no one can know for sure.

I'm not a fan of this guy or this contract.

I think Fulton is going to make some bank once he hits the market.

HOLY SHIT ROFL

Am I the only guy that picked this up? ROFL

There are some areas I trust Dorsey with his evaluation, but OL isn't one of them. He has struggled his entire tenure here to acquire elite OL talent. I also don't really like the type of OL we go for. I'd rather have the mauler type than the finesse type that we seem to covet.

Fisher: signed through 2021
Ehinger: signed through 2019
Morse: signed through 2018
LDT: signed through 2022
Schwartz: signed through 2020

Seems pretty promising.

They better get a lot more dominant in their performance both run blocking and pass blocking. So far not impressed.:rolleyes:

LDT doesn't set shit

We don't have a tone setter on our offensive line, they are all finesse blockers.

it's why they pass block better than run block, nobody is that physical.

wow, so we have our average offensive line locked up for the next 3 or 4 years.

awesome

I see loads of mediocrity in our future. :clap:

You're really being an enormous sourpuss right now.

Zach Fulton was 70% the reason why we couldn't run block worth a ****fart last year. He was never supposed to be involved with that line.

Think about it. We had a pretty darn good line in 2015. What was the difference? We had a downgrade at RT, and LDT wasn't as polished at the time.

Jeff Allen -> Zach Fulton. That was the only change.

We still don't know if Ehinger is much of anything, but I guarantee he's a better LG than Zach Fulton.

We're going to be ****ing fine. Ten bucks says you will magically cheer the **** up about the OL next season, and the only significant difference you'll see roster-wise will be with our depth more than likely.

If that !!:shrug:

Difference? It was a much easier schedule in 2015 against a lot more mediocre d-lines compared to 2016. Our o-line got exposed big time IMHO.

And I will take your bet in a heartbeat Ethel !!!

What the **** would you like to improve, Lucy? If you say, "Guard" then you're a ****ing idiot, because I JUST ****ING MENTIONED that Zach Fulton was 70% of the problem last season.

What? Is Mitch Schwartz not ****ing good enough for you?

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:cuss: Absolute HORRIBLE valuation. WTF Dorsey?

This sounds like throwing the agent a bone here to help the EB negotiations. Very well could be these numbers for LDT are significantly pumped for media release, when in reality it's far less than that.

Fulton was a pretty big problem. He could operate okay as a straight ahead blocker but stunts gave him absolute fits and his feet were bad enough that he couldn't get out and pull either. He really impacted some of the things the line was able to do and made playing defense against us similar to Madden - if you needed a sack or a QB pressure at a key time, you knew a stunt or delayed blitz over his gap would wreck the play. You just saved it until you needed it.

LDT was never an issue. He was steady and again, an ascending player.

He's not going to be an elite guard but I don't suspect the terms here will show that he's getting 'elite guard' money either. I think in the end he'll be a well above average G as his run-blocking moves forward. There's nothing physically or mentally that will stop that from improving for him. And his pass-blocking already has him as an average starter because he's a genuine asset in pass-pro.

There's still plenty of upside baked into LDT.

If they can manage to sign LDT for that money, imagine how much Berry is asking for...

What in the blue **** does this have to do with Berry?

He's a ****ing reerun. Ignore him.

Hopefully this guy develops into a beast and the contract works out in our favor. That's pretty much all we can hope for at this point.

Never really paid much attention to him but sometimes as a offensive lineman that is a good thing. Maybe he is better than we all think.

If Berry's requests were remotely reasonable or just barely above what they were willing to offer, this deal would have been done in the last year.

You must be one of the slow folk on here

He's been reliable and in the 90th percentile in pass pro. I think the entire right side of the line is in the 90th percentile in pass pro including Morse.

I really don't see a problem with this signing bc by the time the guy makes $8 million in 2019, inflation will make it seem small much like Allen Bailey's deal.

It seems like the OL is almost complete minus a quality backup candidate who can play G or T.

strong assessment here.