I'm curious where Lowry will go

Booker and JJ should be enough to suck you in

Im hearing Paul George was just traded to OKC for Sabonis and Oladipo

I don't know. Rubio is a poor man's Rondo. He's a good passer and a defender, but I'll take a guy who can pass and score over him.

Just now getting to 40% FG is amazingly bad.
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The East is going to continue to be horrible for a long time.

Lol. That's a rape.

Paul George to OKC. What the ****?


This has to be the wildest NBA off season ever.
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Not sure how contracts work. Knew Oladipo had a big contract but so did George. Is there ANY way they can go get Blake Griffin now?

Off season>actual season

Indiana got hosed in the George trade.

Looks like Griffin is staying in Los Angeles.

if OKC can unload that horrible Kanter contract they are in great shape

Okc needs to drop penis kanter, overpaid massively.

Is Danny Ainge the smartest guy in the room afraid to get his feet wet?

Collecting assets and he completely lost out on anyone that could have helped his team get over the Cavs. I swear he just likes like collecting assets but hates having to give them up.

173 million over 5 years for Griffin. That is an awful signing for the Clippers at that price.

Hes one of the best scoring big in the league per minute. Donovan needs to just play him more minutes. The more i see Adams, the more I feel like hes just a jag. Cant block shots, not a great rebounder, but does run the floor decent to get free allwy oop points from Russ

Wait is the OKC thing real?

You ever go to any Suns games.

I've been to two........in 5 years.

Blake is staying with the Clippers

That surely wasn't the best offer the Pacers received. What a joke and the East is going to be NIT level at this rate

Westbrook and George. Damn!! They get another piece and watch out

Pretty much.

Teams with much less are doing way more and getting way better. It's kind of pathetic.

Meanwhile the East has sunken even further into the shit hole it already was. They've lost two all-stars in Butler and now George. The Raptors are bound to lose some of their valuable players, too, most likely to a team in the West given how close so many teams are to building competitive teams with Golden State.

It's just pathetic.

....

Kanter is a complete liability in the playoffs. he's unplayable.

George got traded for a bag of cheetos and a glass of water

I don't blame Ainge for trading any assets for a 1 yr PG rental. Should have made a trade for Butler though

If he loses out on Hayward.......

New look Thunder:

Russell Westbrook
Andre Roberson
Paul George
Taj Gibson
Steven Adams/Enes Kanter

Hahhah. That is the exact amount I've been to in 10 years. Both times tickets were free. I watch them on tv a decent amount. I'll totally go if you can score tickets. Lol

Sources: Indiana was close to trading Paul George to Boston but wanted Terry Rozier as final piece. Danny Ainge thought price was too high ��

Thunder trying to get Rudy Gay as well

Gibson is a FA and Roberson is a RFA

They will need to move pieces to keep Roberson if another team gives him a poison pill contract

Holy shit!! Celtics offered 3 first round draft picks and Jae Crowder and Amir Johnson

Yep. Ainge looks like a pussy right now. If they don't get Hayward, his reputation around the league is going to switch really quick.
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Only time I've went tickets were free as well.

If I score some tickets this year (center court a few rows up), you're on my short list.

Please god no. Rudy Gay is a volume shooting human wasteland. Please no.

Sweet.

You surely don't believe that.

Jeff Goodman reported it

NBA contracts are insane. Making 30-40 mil a year

Now I really don't believe it. Guy is one of the biggest dumbasses in the business.

Does that seem plausible that Indiana would turn that down over what they just traded PG for?

They also offered prime Larry bird and Bill Russell.
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Maybe the Pacers really didn't want George in the East. Great deal for OKC. Just think of George is doing poorly by all star break next year you can trade him and probably get a better haul than what they traded away

Kevin Love would have been better than that garbage the Pacers got.

It was 3 of the shit first rounders they got.

The Cavs and Buckeyes have the same gig.

Can play their bench, blindfolded and feet tied together and still win the conference. Then when the playoff/finals arrive they are perfectly setup to get destroyed.

Big Ten and NBA East are a perfect pair.

As opposed to the two shit first rounders OKC sent over?

More you think about that is one hell of a salary dump trade by Oklahoma City.

Thunder turned Ibka into PG and Grant for this year. Was rally surprised by this one.

Curry got 5 years, $201 million from Golden State. $40 million a year.

We need to put a wojbomb twitter feed on this thread

Not taking what "supposedly" the Celtics offered to me is ridiculous even if they aren't the best 1st round picks, they are still 3 first rounders + Crowder and Bradley.

I read this morning that the Celtics offered their Nets pick this year at the trade deadline and Bird even refused that deal. Pure idiocy...

Some of these contracts are crazy:

Jrue Holiday gets $126m from NO

Patty Mills gets $50m from Spurs

Tony Snell gets $46m from Bucks.

relative to the NBA those are considered "good deals"

Which is funny considering the highest paid guy in the NFL is Derek Carr at 25 million. NFL you completely destroy your body and make about as much as the 2nd tier good players do in the NBA and MLB

Tell your kids to play baseball and basketball

lol at this Curry contract. Holy shit.

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Bird screwed up royally by not taking the deal at the deadline. However, PG hadn't demanded a trade yet then so be thought he may still have a chance at resigning him.

The reason Indy couldn't get squat out of PG is he wouldn't commit to an extension anywhere, because he's going to LA next summer. And that's his right to do so.

However, he royally screwed the Pacers on his way out the door.

Don't believe the BS coming out of Boston. Thats just Ainge trying to save face in front of his fan base. He thought he had Indy backed in a corner and he lost his ass. If Ainge had offered anything better than OKC did, he would've gotten George.

Well Woj reported it was 3 first round picks. Not the nets or kings picks. Plus Crowder and Amir Johnson.

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Teague
Butler
Wiggins
Millsap
Towns

Dieng off the bench
Can still match offers on Bazz Muhammad

Don't tell me Minnesota's not going to the playoffs this year if Millsap signs. They could potentially challenge for the 4 seed if everything went their way.

Livingston and West both staying with GSW

I'd rather have that lineup than Clevelands lineup.

T Wolves also want JJ Redick

I heard Crowded or Smart and 2 first round picks. Which would've been late 20's. Either way, I think the OKC offer was as good or better. They get a great defensive guard who is getting better as a shooter in Dipo and a lottery pick from last year in Sabonis.

I agree with pretty much everything you said and that is why I said last night I found it hard to believe Pritchard would turn down such a deal with the Celtics. They didn't get any picks from OKC. It just doesn't make sense unless they really wanted Sabonis and for PG not to be in the East.

A seasoned vet like Millsap would be PERFECT for the Wolves. He could teach the young guys how to win.

That team will be good.

The whole T Wolves starting rotation are all stars or future All Stars

I am interested to know other people's opinion on this but why is there basically an arms race in the West when GS is pretty much unbeatable at this point? Are players that more afraid of going up against Lebron? It would seem to me it would be easier to form a few great teams in the East than the West.

I knew when Bird suddenly stepped down that the Pacers were screwed. Bird saw the writing on the wall and didn't wanna stick around in a burning house.

A smart exec would have went to PG at the deadline and if he sensed any hesitation AT ALL from him, traded him for that kings ransom on the spot. That's how great organizations operate.

Since Bird hesitated, the Pacers and their fans like me are left holding the bag.

Good choice for him. He like what the 4th or 5th best player in the East lol

That would be so awesome. Ainge would be left with nothing. LMAO

I deleted that post I think it was fake

Damn. Well someone needs to put a woj twitter feed on this thread

What teams in the East have the infrastructure in place to form super teams?

What teams have that in the West?

It's not like Lebron waltzing onto an under 20-win Cleveland team and turning them into a Finals team. There is no Lebron available to be acquired. That means getting multiple stars, which means making your team as palatable to future stars as you can possibly make it. There is no team like that in the east. Milwaukee, maybe. That's it. Boston has ****ed the goat and is no longer in play.

What do you mean by infrastructure? Like another great player already there? In the East outside of Cleveland that would be Boston, Washington or Milwaukee. I think the 76ers are going to have a fun team here in the next year or two. It is pretty bleak for the East because everyone has moved or stayed West

Yeah, that's what I mean.

It's probably going to only get worse, too.

Well its alot easier to make it in the NFL because there is 4 or 5 times as many roster spots, you dont have as much international competition, and the number 1 thing you need to be successful in the NFL isnt always height

Hope he considers OKC. Could be a good piece there.

Tell OKC to go **** itself. Shouldn't have let go of Durant.

That was Judas Durant's decision, not theirs.

How could they have kept him? He was a free agent and decided to leave.

Not Minnesota's fault.

Sounds like Millsap is deciding between Minnesota and Denver, anyway. OKC did sneak up on everybody on the Paul George trade, but I don't see it happening again in free agency.

It's because you have two different answers to this question depending on which conference you are in: "if I want to be the best team in my conference overall for the next decade, what is the best course of action?". In the east, the answer is simple: tank, load up a young core, and wait Lebron out. Once Lebron gets older, it's wide open, and because the celts won't go all in, your team has just as good of chance as anyone else to be the team of the decade in the east. The sixers have done this well, and I think that's why Ainge won't trade any of his high picks, because he thinks this is the way to go.

On the other hand, the west has no such plan. The Warriors probably won't fall off in a year or two. They are going to be great for the foreseeable future. So if you are a western conference GM, the only answer to my original question is go all in and if you fail well at least you can tell your fan base you tried. The rockets and the wolves are perfect examples. Guys aren't getting any younger, so push all the chips in and go for it. Who cares if the wolves won't be able to keep a butler Wiggins towns core together in 3 years? Who cares if Chris Paul and harden fail ? There's no downside because your goal will still be to beat the Warriors in 5 years. The east doesn't have to worry about that, so they can play the long game.