I don't think it's even remotely feasible that Cam Erving is second in line at LT.

It won't be Battle or Hawkins. I don't think it will be Morse either. Like I said Fulton was rumored to possibly be the backup. Good luck with that.

If anything happens to Fisher.....then Schwartz would be moving to LT.

I'm not obsessing over anything. Trading a 5th round pick brings some expectations with it. If it was just a trade to give us first dibs instead of letting Erving get cut then it would have been a 6th or 7th. The Chiefs may just think that giving Erving a new environment will let him reboot and play up to his potential next year. We'll just have to wait and see.

Exactly. He played LT at Cal.

Maybe Schwartz to LT and Ehringer to RT

He wasn't "rumored", he spent one day of practice on the 2nd team at both the LT and RT spots

One day.

More likely it would be LDT to RT with Fulton at RG.

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I thought the Chiefs had Ehringer work at RT on and off this preseason just in case. They don't really plan on using Fulton out in space at RT, do they? His slow lateral movement will force us to keep a tightend next to him on virtually every snap.

There may be a whole lot of truth to this

ROFLROFL

:clap: Exactly

Saying if a team loses their first string tackle they'll be in trouble is a cop out?

It's one of the 3 or 4 most important positions to have. If you lose your starter for extended periods of time, you're gonna be in trouble.

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Will they announce him pregame as

The DOC-tor! Cam-er-on, ERRRRRrving!

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I ... don't know how I feel about him.

Obviously I'm a big fan of Cam Erving the NFL draft prospect.

Cam Erving the Brown has just been terrible for two straight years at everything. Browns fans will tell you that all day long, and there is no good footage of him in a Browns jersey. Anywhere. It almost makes you wonder what the Chiefs saw in him.

Also, our 2018 draft is getting depleted in a hurry. The Chiefs are in a very tight cap spot in 2018 -- unless they've already got plans to dump Alex Smith, Tamba Hali, and Derrick Johnson. They are going to have roster spots they'll need to fill in 2018, too -- both of our NTs (Logan & Miller) will be free agents, if they trade Smith we'll only have ONE QB on the entire roster, Spiller and Escobar will be gone and Zach Fulton's departure will rob of us of quality OL depth across the board. DJ has probably already been replaced with Wilson/Ragland, but Hali will leave a huge hole at OLB, and we still need WR talent.

So now we're down three picks (1st/5th/7th) in a year where we're going to need a lot of cheap talent to staff this roster. And again, Cam Erving has just been horrid.

Maybe this team has the magic touch and can figure Erving out. As of now, I'm not a huge fan of the player or the price we paid.

Shut up KnowShit. He's no worse than Ty Sambrillo, Donald Stephenson, or Russell Okung. Yeah, we gave up a 5th round pick. So what. A swing and a miss is still a swing and a miss. And ElFraud has done plenty of that. Hell, he is probably better than Garrett Lenny Bolles

Looks like a very nice gamble for the price. I'm glad the team has decided to address the in-offensive line.

Time to take some lumps with a young QB.

It is what it is.

This team is looking towards the future.

By trading future draft picks for present players....

uh...from most accounts he's considerably worse than those guys.

Erving is a developmental prospect, not a win-now type of acquisition.

Who's Ewing?

Fix the Oline first then you put the young QB in there. The Chiefs are gearing up for next year.

Tamba, DJ and Alex won't be here next year.

I'm not really sure why anyone thought that was ever likely to be honest.

Current Chief vs a former Chief.

https://youtu.be/kVt_uZGi_aA

You're assigning WAY too much value to 5th and 7th round draft picks.

As previously noted, the Chiefs hit on four 5th round picks since 2006 - that's 21 seasons - and only two made an impact with the Chiefs in Brandon Carr and Tyreek Hill.

A 7th? Pfft. Those are generally used for kickers and punters. The Chiefs have a kicker and they'll likely sign a UDFA punter next year.

Just wait until we trade Alex Smith for a 1st and 3rd. Instant cap space and instant draft! :)

Smith - $17,000,000
Hali - $7,000,000
DJ - $8,000,000
Jah Reid - $3,200,000

$35,200,000

5ths and 7this are worthless. Also, I like this move now that Knowmo is obviously worried about it posting in here and Voyager doesn't like it.

He's one of the worst Offensive Linemen I have ever seen.

Why give them a 5th rounder when the Browns would of literally gave him away for free? He sucks ****ing shit.

We only keep 8 OL. So will it be Fisher, Witzman, Morse, LDT, Schwartz, Erving, Ehringer, and Fulton. Reid can get cut

This year then next right? Like I said he may not be ready by the time his deal ends.

Erving probably wouldn't of made it through the waiver wire

Yes he would have.


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No, he would not have made it through waivers.

There's a serious dearth of offensive lineman in the NFL and nearly every team is feeling the crunch, which was exacerbated by a poor draft.

Remember how funny it was when Bucs fans were excited about getting Ryan Sims for a 6th? Jah Reid has been hot garbage so far this year, but we have seen him display a level of competence in the past that Cam Erving hasn't.

That said, based on potential, I don't hate it. I just don't think he's a solution to anything right away.

In a perfect world, Erving doesn't see the field in 2017

Send him in to block for Alex, Mahomes takes over in New England. I see right through Veach ;)

I'd rather trade for Erving on a cheap ass contract for a 5th than sign Donald Stephenson for $5 million per ****ing year.

Erving sucks ass from what I saw of him during his rookie season. He had too many plays that looked like this:

https://usatsteelerswire.files.wordp...ing.gif?w=1000

Didn't pay attention to him beyond that so idk how much he has improved since then, if at all.

Or draft 25 year old Garrett Bolles with the #20 overall pick

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I guess it depends on each teams respective cap situation. Both players are terrible, but if I had the cap space I'd much rather keep my 5th rounder and sign Stephenson.

(Stephenson is only making $2.5M by the way)

He was one of the best OL FSU had produced in a few years. He has the measurables and size and he is apparently a smart young man.

I'll say it again: trust the coaching staff.

Ron Parker, Jaye Howard, LDT, Fulton has been a decent backup, Spencer Ware etc. FFS Dee Ford ran the wrong ****ing way as a rookie and just had a double-digit sack season.

The Chiefs have a top tier coaching staff.

I agree. Young, and on a cheap rookie contract. Someone would have put a claim in on him. The league is hurting for offensive line talent and this guy was taken in the first round 2 years ago. No way he clears waivers.

HI Cam,

Welcome to the factory of Gladness.

That's more like a Wile E. Coyote cartoon than a football play.

What the **** is wrong with some of you butt****ing morons?

His name is E-H-I-N-G-E-R. Pronounced "anger." As in, "I have a lot of anger because there are too many ****ing stupid people." Ehinger. Parker Ehinger is his goddamn name. His name is not "Ehringer."

Don't give me that "it's just a typo!" excuse, either. The "r" key isn't even located next to the "h" or the "i." And don't say you're just being lazy. You dipshits honestly just don't know his goddamn name. Your problem isn't that you had a brainfart. The real problem is you never had a ****ing brain to begin with.

You paid him $4 million to be a backup last year LMAO

Aside from Malik Jackson, the Broncos haven't had a good 5th rd pick this century.

Alrighty then.

Is this the only play he was in on? So far, this is the third time it's been posted.

That cash is the often the difference between re-signing a guy you'd like to keep around and letting him walk. I'll take the money, because that's what any real GM would do, including Elway.

He just got caught trying to be cute with the OL position, and he's been reaping the consequences ever since.

You are really getting into the 'butt****ing' thing.

I shall now spell it wrong in every post just to see if you have an embolism. :D

Nah, likely the only readily available gif. I remember seeing him being abused far more than just that once. The dude made rookie Eric Fisher look like a pro-bowler.

And it's looking more and more likely that Tyreek Hill is going to turn into a WR who is more valuable to a team that Malik Jackson was for the Broncos.

Let's all thank ealSNR for this spelling lesson.:D

He still hasn't learned his lesson.

Menalik Watson LMAO , and the worst starter on the Cowboys OL in Leary.

Watson for sure sucks and I'm pretty confident that Leary will looks significantly worse surrounded by Denvers OL.

Like the trade, or not, Veach has a vision and is aggressively pursuing it; time will tell if it is a good one.

Looks he needs the "Rocky, chase the chicken drill"...:)

These moves will not make or break Veach.

Wow, I remember feeling nervous that we were gonna select this guy instead of Peters or someone else in the 2015 draft. I think he was selected right after we selected Peters.

Glad to have him now...and for only a 5th round pick...

Jah Reid says hi.

Print 'em.

What's interesting is that just two years later, the Chiefs have both Peters and Erving and just a year later, they have Chris Jones and Reggie Ragland.

It's pretty crazy.

Exactly.

Veach is a SPARQ guy that clearly likes high ceiling athletes.

The talent on this team is rising quickly.

You guys are in for such a treat.


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Ok, I'm lost. What handle does Knowmo go by these days? And Voyager? I didn't realize he was still around. What's his handle?

These are the kind of moves Hoody and the Pats make that everybody blows them over.

Sure, they might be Barkevious Mingo or Jonathan Cooper, but it's very low risk. I like the fact that we're giving our coaching staff an oppurtunity to rehabilitate these guys, and in the mean time it gives us some cheap depth.

Awesome. Have to also include "whirling dervish."

Cleveland has an excellent track record of drafting and developing players

They've had a lot of excellent offensive linemen.

I saw somebody point out that they've done a good job developing OL (Thomas, Schwartz, Mack), but that was before Hue got there. Unless they retained their OL coach, that might not mean much at all in this case.

Edit: Didn't see billay's post before I posted this lol

Or why a 5th round pick was going to be what replaced them.

The Chiefs are down on draft capital, yes. But that ship sailed when they traded their 1st. They still have 2, 3, 4 and 6. The 7th means precisely **** all.

The odds of that 5th rounder being the guy that replaces Hali/DJ or the backup QB are pretty damn remote.

I just can't bring myself to care about the loss of a 5th. Meanwhile, if this trade allows us to move on from Reid or not extend Fulton, it creates cap savings that would allow us to find creative methods to deal with other openings on the roster.

If you can turn a 5th into an asset of any sort, you do it. Now the question remains whether or not he's an actual asset (which is why I said yesterday I'd probably only give a 6th for him) but a 5th vs. a 6th isn't that much to worry about. If he can play in any meaningful capacity, this will be a much better use of the 5th in '18 than the pick itself would've yielded.

Hey, cooper is gonna pan out. He's playing in Dallas now right?