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Mr_Tomahawk 09-07-2017 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 13067298)
Just got an alert on my phone that he tore his Achilles (ESPN)


Just seems premature since they haven't imaged it.

Otter 09-07-2017 11:08 PM

If this cheers anyone up: I'm quiet certain I saw Hill on the sidelines smiling and walking around normal after the 'cramps'. But yeah, Berry's injury did not look optimistic to my non-medically informed ass.

O.city 09-07-2017 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13067296)
And now this.

That's a lot of major shit for a team to sit there and say "yeah, we'll just pencil him in next year without a quality insurance policy."

I expect they'll give him every chance to rehab and win his spot back, but there will probably be someone brought in for competition/starter-quality backup.

It's week 1.

They're not going to look to move ok from the guy

Buehler445 09-07-2017 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13067290)
He wasn't back on the sidelines after he tore it. They carted him off.

They were working on him on the sidelines.

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 13067298)
Just got an alert on my phone that he tore his Achilles (ESPN)

Piss and shit. **** **** ****

TimBone 09-07-2017 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TRR (Post 13067172)
I've said it multiple times. KC has a HUGE issues with their strength and conditioning staff/medical and training staff. The teams injuries every year are like no other. Would love nothing more than to see Rick Burkholder
shit-canned.

You ever hear about San Diego?

L.A. Chieffan 09-07-2017 11:08 PM

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2...chilles-tendon

Hammock Parties 09-07-2017 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13067316)
It's week 1.

They're not going to look to move ok from the guy

This offseason I expect a concerted effort will be made to find someone who can replace him.

Plus, achilles injuries are rough for skill position players. He might not be the same player.

pugsnotdrugs19 09-07-2017 11:09 PM

This injury sucks. Bad. No way around it.

But... if the offense could play at that level all season... I don't think it will matter much. We might have a legit 3-headed monster at WR, TE, and RB.

O.city 09-07-2017 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 13067318)
They were working on him on the sidelines.



Piss and shit. **** **** ****

Don't think so

I believe all the sideline stuff was earlier in the game

Ecto-I 09-07-2017 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 13067298)
Just got an alert on my phone that he tore his Achilles (ESPN)

There's no way the MRI is done. That's ESPN going off of what Reid said in the presser.

notorious 09-07-2017 11:09 PM

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BlackOp 09-07-2017 11:10 PM

They have to keep the Raiders in the mix....Edelman, Amendola, Mitchell, Ware, Hightower, Berry, Ward.

Just business....

Sassy Squatch 09-07-2017 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ecto-I (Post 13067329)
There's no way the MRI is done. That's ESPN going off of what Reid said in the presser.

Yep. It says potentially in the article.

Psyko Tek 09-07-2017 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 13066663)
Pretty sure it's a tear... Next man in, unfortunately...

THERE AIN;'T NO NEXT THERE' THE GUY WHO CAN SORTA PLAY, BUIT HE AINT GONNA BE ERIC

Buehler445 09-07-2017 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 13067333)
They have to keep the Raiders in the mix....Edelman, Amendola, Mitchell, Ware, Hightower, Berry, Ward.

Just business....

Are you suggesting the injury was planned? Are you ****ing high right now?

penbrook 09-07-2017 11:15 PM

I was impressed with T Mitchell. He bounced back

big nasty kcnut 09-07-2017 11:16 PM

Question how much of a tear would be to not be season ending.

Mr_Tomahawk 09-07-2017 11:16 PM

Teammates tweeting prayers out to EB now...

Pasta Little Brioni 09-07-2017 11:17 PM

****

Pasta Little Brioni 09-07-2017 11:17 PM

Clay is trolling hard...Pathetic

Chiefspants 09-07-2017 11:18 PM

Looks like the best we can hope for is a partial tear at this point.

This reminds me of Gordo's injury in 2015 back when he was still leading the Royals. We all rejoiced when we found out it was a Grade 2 groin strain, and man did he return just in time for the playoffs and was a big reason why we won it all.

I'd love for Berry to do the same... it's just looking like a longshot with Breer, Sam's, and Andy's analysis.

kcpasco 09-07-2017 11:18 PM

Just ****ing great

Hammock Parties 09-07-2017 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 13067376)
Clay is trolling hard...Pathetic

It's not trolling to say a player who is almost 29, has a catastrophic injury history and an extremely physical play style might be done playing at an elite level.

Right now Brett Veach is thinking about what he's going to do at safety next season because I guarantee you doesn't want to rely solely on Eric Berry and a 31-year old Ron Parker.

Eleazar 09-07-2017 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 13067376)
Clay is trolling hard...Pathetic

The uncomfortable reality that is... having to troll about something other than Alex smith

BlackOp 09-07-2017 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 13067353)
Are you suggesting the injury was planned? Are you ****ing high right now?

Yes..I'm suggesting that the injury is fake....like the wwf. Like both Edelman and Ware going down to non-contact injuries simultaneously...

Before you get crazy...just remember I was one of only maybe 3 posters that said KC would win tonight.

I also made $1k off the Manning SB shitshow...and predicted that 2016 was the Brady revenge tour.

Hate away....

TigeRRUppeRRcut 09-07-2017 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ecto-I (Post 13067329)
There's no way the MRI is done. That's ESPN going off of what Reid said in the presser.

Yea I don't see in the news where this has been confirmed. A trained physician... hell, even a technician can make this diagnosis pretty easily with a half decent portable ultrasound. Even if it's a partial tear.

But as usual, they'll do the MRI before releasing any news

notorious 09-07-2017 11:29 PM

I have to step away from this thread.

jjchieffan 09-07-2017 11:30 PM

I assume that Dane is going to get his wish and see McQuay back on the roster tomorrow. But dang, did it have to happen like this??

RunKC 09-07-2017 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13067387)
It's not trolling to say a player who is almost 29, has a catastrophic injury history and an extremely physical play style might be done playing at an elite level.

Right now Brett Veach is thinking about what he's going to do at safety next season because I guarantee you doesn't want to rely solely on Eric Berry and a 31-year old Ron Parker.

DJ had 2 and looked awesome tonight.

BWillie 09-07-2017 11:30 PM

How long would he potentially be out if it is a partial tear? I know full tear he's gonzo for year.

penbrook 09-07-2017 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 13067412)
No..I'm suggesting that the injury is fake....like the wwf. Like both Edelman and Ware going down to non-contact injuries simultaneously...

Before you get crazy...just remember I was one of only maybe 3 posters that said KC would win tonight.

I also made $1k off the Manning SB shitshow...and predicted the 2016 was the Brady revenge tour.

I also predicted KC would win 31-20. Somehow they surpassed that and Smitty surpassed my prediction of 255 yards and 3 TDs

BWillie 09-07-2017 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13067421)
DJ had 2 and looked awesome tonight.

I noticed DJ looked slow as shit on at least 3 plays. But still has those great instincts. He made a living though off of being a faster than avg LB...

BWillie 09-07-2017 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 13067425)
I also predicted KC would win 31-20. Somehow they surpassed that and Smitty surpassed my prediction of 255 yards and 3 TDs

When homerism goes right.

penbrook 09-07-2017 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 13067430)
I noticed DJ looked slow as shit on at least 3 plays. But still has those great instincts. He made a living though off of being a faster than avg LB...

Heath Evans raved about how good DJ looked

Titty Meat 09-07-2017 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 13067430)
I noticed DJ looked slow as shit on at least 3 plays. But still has those great instincts. He made a living though off of being a faster than avg LB...

Most linebackers will look slow when covering Brandon Cooks. Johnson played well and had a nice pass breakup on Burkhead in the end zone.

Hammock Parties 09-07-2017 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13067421)
DJ had 2 and looked awesome tonight.

DJ's game doesn't rely on 4.4 speed and changing direction in a fraction of a second. He's also not 210 pounds.

Berry attempts to play like a player who is 25 pounds heavier most of the time.

It will catch up to him. Maybe already has.

RunKC 09-07-2017 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13067439)
DJ's game doesn't rely on 4.4 speed and changing direction in a fraction of a second. He's also not 210 pounds.

Berry attempts to play like a player who is 25 pounds heavier most of the time.

It will catch up to him. Maybe already has.

Yeah it's not like he was covering RB's lined up as receivers tonight.

Dane is right. You have no clue about anything Chiefs.

Hammock Parties 09-07-2017 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13067443)
Yeah it's not like he was covering RB's lined up as receivers tonight.

Dane is right. You have no clue about anything Chiefs.

This is silly. The Chiefs will explore their options at the safety position in the offseason.

You know they can't rely on a guy with Berry's injury history now. It's not smart front office work.

Remind me again what happened after Priest's injury in 02.

BigRedChief 09-07-2017 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 13067367)
Teammates tweeting prayers out to EB now...

:cuss:

He's done.

bigjosh 09-07-2017 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13067450)
This is silly. The Chiefs will explore their options at the safety position in the offseason.

You know they can't rely on a guy with Berry's injury history now. It's not smart front office work.

Remind me again what happened after Priest's injury in 02.

His injury history isn't really that bad. He had a torn ACL from a cheap hit by that sack of shit stevie johnson. He had cancer. And he missed a few games here and there with small shit.

This is the first major injury that wasnt caused by some odd circumstance.

BlackOp 09-07-2017 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 13067432)
When homerism goes right.

It wasnt homerism on my part...I read the the signs. Over-Hype, strange injuries...anomalies in the universal flow.

All roads lead to Vegas...and their abortion of a stadium deal...dont be surprised when Brady isnt available for the Mexico game.

BWillie 09-07-2017 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bigjosh006 (Post 13067483)
His injury history isn't really that bad. He had a torn ACL from a cheap hit by that sack of shit stevie johnson. He had cancer. And he missed a few games here and there with small shit.

This is the first major injury that wasnt caused by some odd circumstance.

Blown ACL, Blown Achilles, CANCER. ****ING CANCER.

And he's not injury prone?

Are you ****ing serious?

I feel bad for the dude. He puts in the work, he's an amazing player, but shit just keeps happening for him. But he's certainly injury prone.

BWillie 09-07-2017 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 13067484)
It wasnt homerism on my part...I read the the signs. Over-Hype, strange injuries...anomalies in the universal flow.

All roads lead to Vegas...and their abortion of a stadium deal...dont be surprised when Brady isnt available for the Mexico game.

I actually guaranteed victory. You can see it in my posts, I think I said it three times that I guarantee victory over the Pats. I just don't foresee in my wildest dreams that Alex Smith could throw 28% as many TD passes in one game as he did all of last year. That is the part that blows my ****ing mind.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 09-07-2017 11:50 PM

http://www.chiefs.com/media-center/v...6-af08c6b883a1

Watch at 6:45

Berry lifts his leg and plantar and dorsiflexs his foot which suggests against a complete tear. They didn't perform a Thompson test on the field but I bet it would have been negative.

My guess is this is a strain or just a partial tear.

BlackOp 09-07-2017 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 13067495)
I actually guaranteed victory. You can see it in my posts, I think I said it three times that I guarantee victory over the Pats. I just don't foresee in my wildest dreams that Alex Smith could throw 28% as many TD passes in one game as he did all of last year. That is the part that blows my ****ing mind.

Yes..another anomoly. I said months ago that KC might have been "Green-lighted" by the NFL...they have 6 prime-time games. This just reinforces it...they curb-stomped a team that was 51-1 at home.

Sorry to piss on the parade...but if you're smart..you can make $$ off this.

BWillie 09-07-2017 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut (Post 13067499)
http://www.chiefs.com/media-center/v...6-af08c6b883a1

Watch at 6:45

Berry lifts his leg and plantar and dorsiflexs his foot which suggests against a complete tear. They didn't perform a Thompson test on the field but I bet it would have been negative.

My guess is this is a strain or just a partial tear.

Are you a doctor IRL?

Eleazar 09-07-2017 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut (Post 13067499)
http://www.chiefs.com/media-center/v...6-af08c6b883a1

Watch at 6:45

Berry lifts his leg and plantar and dorsiflexs his foot which suggests against a complete tear. They didn't perform a Thompson test on the field but I bet it would have been negative.

My guess is this is a strain or just a partial tear.

They showed it on the table, I thought, just for a second. He was prone and they were doing what looked like the Thompson.

BWillie 09-07-2017 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 13067508)
Yes..another anomoly. I said months ago that KC might have been "Green-lighted" by the NFL...they have 6 prime-time games. This just reinforces it...they curb-stomped a team that was 51-1 at home.

Sorry to piss on the parade...but if you're smart..you can make $$ off this.

So it's like pro wrestling? Ric Flair type shit.

BlackOp 09-07-2017 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 13067521)
So it's like pro wrestling? Ric Flair type shit.

Only with 100 times the resources behind it....they have their own network to influence minds.

NFL is the WWF on steroids....

TigeRRUppeRRcut 09-07-2017 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 13067516)
Are you a doctor IRL?

Y

Demonpenz 09-07-2017 11:57 PM

when it doesn't hurt it is usually rupsured. Pop sounding and numbness

TigeRRUppeRRcut 09-07-2017 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 13067520)
They showed it on the table, I thought, just for a second. He was prone and they were doing what looked like the Thompson.

I wasn't paying attention and missed it. Hopefully that foot was moving!

TigeRRUppeRRcut 09-07-2017 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 13067527)
when it doesn't hurt it is usually rupsured. Pop sounding and numbness

From what I've read , he didn't feel a pop.

I'm being uber optimistic as you can tell.

Demonpenz 09-08-2017 12:02 AM

I hope it is a strain but then I hope it gets right and they don't press it to make worse.

BWillie 09-08-2017 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut (Post 13067532)
From what I've read , he didn't feel a pop.

I'm being uber optimistic as you can tell.

How long are you out with a partial tear? Roughly.

MeatRock 09-08-2017 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 13067516)
Are you a doctor IRL?

Dudes not a doctor, he's a nurse if i remember correctly. Still, a nurse would have some knowledge i suppose.

notorious 09-08-2017 12:06 AM

I hope Tiger is right about Berry like he was about Alex.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 09-08-2017 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 13067545)
How long are you out with a partial tear? Roughly.

Depending on the severity. Could be 4+ weeks immobilized in a cast then rehab afterwards can take easily another several weeks as the leg muscle has atrophied and range of motion needs to be regained.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 09-08-2017 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by MeatRock (Post 13067547)
Dudes not a doctor, he's a nurse if i remember correctly. Still, a nurse would have some knowledge i suppose.

You must be the world's shittiest stalker.

notorious 09-08-2017 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut (Post 13067554)
Depending on the severity. Could be 4+ weeks immobilized in a cast then rehab afterwards can take easily another several weeks.

I'll take it.

Make it so.

pugsnotdrugs19 09-08-2017 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 13067543)
I hope it is a strain but then I hope it gets right and they don't press it to make worse.

Yeah, they've gotta commit to getting it right no matter what.. I'd say he's done for the year either way. MAYBE a return in December.

Simplicity 09-08-2017 12:09 AM

I've also been going to college in a Athletic Training program and from what we've been taught so far is there are many complications with plantar and dorsiflexion after a complete tear in the Achilles. Also as most of you know there is usually if not always a pop or a snap that is quite audible. You can also visiually see the Achilles actually roll up the posterior calf and bunch up in a complete tear because the amount of tension the Achilles holds. So far it's been a weird situation where the obvious signs for a complete tear haven't been there but it's "suspected" by all the "professionals"

MeatRock 09-08-2017 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut (Post 13067556)
You must be the world's shittiest stalker.

Stalker? Where the **** do you come up with that? I remember something posted here on CP about you being a nurse.

So, that's where it came from. :rolleyes:

notorious 09-08-2017 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 13067565)
I've also been going to college in a Athletic Training program and from what we've been taught so far is there are many complications with plantar and dorsiflexion after a complete tear in the Achilles. Also as most of you know there is usually if not always a pop or a snap that is quite audible. You can also visiually see the Achilles actually roll up the posterior calf and bunch up in a complete tear because the amount of tension the Achilles holds. So far it's kind been a weird situation where the obvious signs for a complete tear haven't been there but it's "suspected" by all the "professionals"

I didn't see it roll up, and there was a clear view on the replay.

Simplicity 09-08-2017 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 13067568)
I didn't see it roll up, and there was a clear view on the replay.

Same, and if I do remember correctly with both of DJ's you could see his lower posterior leg actually shutter or "shake" when the rupture happened, could be wrong but that's off of pure memory.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 09-08-2017 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 13067557)
I'll take it.

Make it so.

With world class athletes, even a partial tear might be enough for the Orthopedist to convince him to do a surgery to work on the damaged tendons to reduce the likelihood of future re-rupture/full thickness tear. In that scenario he could be back later this season and Eric Murray will have good experience under his belt.

It's gonna be a long 12-16 hours

pugsnotdrugs19 09-08-2017 12:15 AM

Let's hope for the best and expect the worse. Again, this heel issue dates back to January. Might want to give him a lot of time off anyways.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 09-08-2017 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 13067572)
Same, and if I do remember correctly with both of DJ's you could see his lower posterior leg actually shutter or "shake" when the rupture happened, could be wrong but that's off of pure memory.

Yea, DJ was completely stuck in a sitting position and didn't make any movement of the foot on the affected leg

ROYC75 09-08-2017 12:15 AM

How do you feel about giving Calvin Pryor a shot?

Maybe a change of scenery?

pugsnotdrugs19 09-08-2017 12:16 AM

There's no replacing Berry, but as I mentioned earlier-- if this is the offense we are going to get on a weekly basis, they will be fine. Much more balanced team.

Tribal Warfare 09-08-2017 12:23 AM

It sounds like he's out for the season

Rasputin 09-08-2017 12:31 AM

Eric Murray you are up to bat. You can do it son.

Buck 09-08-2017 12:43 AM

It sucks when your superstar has a major injury in the first game. He was playing almost perfect football tonight.

Went through the same thing with Keenan Allen last year. I feel very bad, but the difference is you guys are better than we were. I hope it's not major and he's back in a few weeks.

Also last year when Keenan got injured a bunch of you posted "stay down bitch." Doesn't feel so good when it happens to your guy.

Pasta Little Brioni 09-08-2017 12:53 AM

You shouldn't have any loyalty to the Chuggers

penbrook 09-08-2017 12:55 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think Peters gave up 1 yard tonight to his receiver

BWillie 09-08-2017 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 13067643)
Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think Peters gave up 1 yard tonight to his receiver

Peters Island.

Who says he can't be a cover corner?

penbrook 09-08-2017 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 13067648)
Peters Island.

Who says he can't be a cover corner?

I was actually impressed with Mitchell. After getting burnt early on he came back and made some fantastic plays. And once again my man Ron Parker leading the team tonight with 10 tackles

KChiefs1 09-08-2017 01:11 AM

Veach needs to get a vet at Safety.

thabear04 09-08-2017 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 13067650)
I was actually impressed with Mitchell. After getting burnt early on he came back and made some fantastic plays. And once again my man Ron Parker leading the team tonight with 10 tackles

For being out of all the pre season games he had to just shake off the rust it been awhile since he played a game.

Nickhead 09-08-2017 01:16 AM

is there a clause in his contract that he can be cut if he is injured for a full year, with his history and all?

i only ask is this will be what, his third year missed out of 8? :D

i joke, will miss him, but goddamnit :cuss:


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