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BryanBusby 10-16-2017 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 13157469)
That wasn't my point genious. That's why I used Nowhereville A&M and 500 yards. For ****s sake man.

Point is there a LOT of better options than Cassel. The name doesn't matter.

The point is the condition you think was caused by collusion existed prior to the collusion. Therefore the collusion cannot be the cause.

Come on man.
That's great, but Cassel is just garbage and was garbage. Kap is an upgrade over a lot of backups and a handful of starters.

Don't think it's that hard to add a package of plays for him either.

I have a hunch there is collusion, but I don't think it's widespread and I really don't give a shit ultimately.

Lets just not let personal opinion try to persuade us that Kevin Hogan is a better option for any reason what so ever. He put up an Alex Smith type of season statistically in 16 and people are white knighting to keep a top 10 pick on the bench for him. For ****ing years.

Lets also not pretend there's no history of owners colluding.

Bigdaddy 10-16-2017 11:57 PM
My present to Kaepernick....
http://i.imgur.com/7riUmD8.png

Buehler445 10-17-2017 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13157567)
That's great, but Cassel is just garbage and was garbage. Kap is an upgrade over a lot of backups and a handful of starters.

Don't think it's that hard to add a package of plays for him either.

I have a hunch there is collusion, but I don't think it's widespread and I really don't give a shit ultimately.

Lets just not let personal opinion try to persuade us that Kevin Hogan is a better option for any reason what so ever. He put up an Alex Smith type of season statistically in 16 and people are white knighting to keep a top 10 pick on the bench for him. For ****ing years.

Lets also not pretend there's no history of owners colluding.
I agree with everything posted here. But you postulated that Cassel and Hogan were evidence of collusion.

There are lots of dudes better than Cassel. No different than when Kaep was employed. Accordingly nobody is going to convince me of collusion because there are shitty QBs in the league. GMs and coaches have been stupid for quite some time.

Loneiguana 10-17-2017 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13157350)
Collusion is impossible to prove.

To win, Kaepernick would need internal memos from at least two teams stating they wouldn’t sign him.

Unless someone provided said documents, he can’t win.
From what I've heard.

If he appeals the arbitration, it goes to a federal court. Then a discovery might happen. That technically could then find something, but talk about a long shot.

Loneiguana 10-17-2017 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13157389)
We don't even know what proof they may or may not have

It could be bullshit or they've got some smoking gun. Colin might be stupid enough to proceed without, but a lawyer would probably want tangible evidence to file a claim like this. I don't think they're gonna win, but I'd like to see what is found in the discovery phase.
He has Michael Jackson's attorney. The guy is supposedly one of the best in a courtroom.

Don't know what that means for this case except he does have really good legal help.

WhiteWhale 10-17-2017 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13157567)
That's great, but Cassel is just garbage and was garbage. Kap is an upgrade over a lot of backups and a handful of starters.

Don't think it's that hard to add a package of plays for him either.

I have a hunch there is collusion, but I don't think it's widespread and I really don't give a shit ultimately.

Lets just not let personal opinion try to persuade us that Kevin Hogan is a better option for any reason what so ever. He put up an Alex Smith type of season statistically in 16 and people are white knighting to keep a top 10 pick on the bench for him. For ****ing years.

Lets also not pretend there's no history of owners colluding.
He didn't put up an Alex Smith like season though.

Alex wins while putting up his pedestrian numbers.

Kaep is 4-20 in his last 24 starts. Blaine Gabbert won more games through 2015 and 2016. There's a reason the 49ers thought Hoyer was a better solution, and I don't think it's because John Lynch is racist.

Sandy Vagina 10-17-2017 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 13157750)
He didn't put up an Alex Smith like season though.

Alex wins while putting up his pedestrian numbers.

Kaep is 4-20 in his last 24 starts. Blaine Gabbert won more games through 2015 and 2016. There's a reason the 49ers thought Hoyer was a better solution, and I don't think it's because John Lynch is racist.

Must further say. While Kaep would be an upgrade to some team's QB2 spots, his numbers were misleading.

He had some really impressive first halves... but nearly all of his second halves in games were putrid. That's more than just staring at box scores.. I watched it. Nick Foles did some great things at first in that system, but don't let it fool you. Kaep gets figured out by defenses quickly, and gets exposed.

You couple this with what must be discussed as commitment issues to football.. as well as the off-field ideologies.. and it is absolutely NO wonder why teams don't want to waste time on him.

He did this to himself. He refused to develop and improve into a complete QB... and he let outside forces off the field shit all over his career. Too bad. Get a real job for money, and best of luck, idiot.

Tribal Warfare 10-17-2017 10:00 AM
I'm surprised no one in the media has brought up Ray Rice. He should've had a chance to redeem himself . In comparison to Kaepernick that made it a media circus for attention.

Sandy Vagina 10-17-2017 10:02 AM
Neither should be gifted an NFL job, if 32 teams don't want their sorry ass.

Lzen 10-17-2017 10:51 AM
This is stupid. Good luck proving collusion.

Ragged Robin 10-17-2017 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 13156310)
https://sports.yahoo.com/boomer-esia...152244156.html

Spoiler!


"He could be fighting for social justice and be the greatest human being in the world. At the end of the day, football teams want players who want to play football and who are good at it, and I don't believe he's either one."
Yep. The awareness vs patriotism thing is all moot. Outside of football, cool, I guess he successfully used his (former) status to get his message across. Inside of football, if no team wants to risk him on the field OR deal with the circus he brings then how does that warrant a legal case against them? Tebow won a playoff game and then the league shut him out for good, we don't see him filing any lawsuits..

Beef Supreme 10-17-2017 11:47 AM
How do you feel about NFL being sued by Kaepernick?

I feel .... hungry?

Probably because it's lunchtime.

Black Bob 10-17-2017 11:53 AM
I hope he wins. I have been screwed over because of my political beliefs.

Marcellus 10-17-2017 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Bob (Post 13158028)
I hope he wins. I have been screwed over because of my political beliefs.
Oh please do explain how you got screwed over due to your political beliefs. I cant wait to hear this.

Frazod 10-17-2017 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Bob (Post 13158028)
I hope he wins. I have been screwed over because of my political beliefs.
https://i.imgur.com/gNjCuMC.gif

kcchiefsus 10-17-2017 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigdaddy (Post 13157572)
My present to Kaepernick....
http://i.imgur.com/7riUmD8.png
Queer

Rausch 10-17-2017 02:59 PM
I really don't care.

Randallflagg 10-17-2017 03:03 PM
Hmmm...How do I feel about Kaepernicks suit against the NFL....

Taking everything that he started (the protests) aside and focusing strictly on the merits of his supposed "case" - I would say that the only thing he will accomplish is to make absolutely certain that he never plays another game in the NFL.

There is no "right" to play football ANYWHERE, and especially the NFL. You always play at the whim of the coaching staff and the owner. So, if they, for whatever reason don't want you on their team - you are free to explore your options elsewhere. If the word gets out that you are a troublemaker (and you have to be REALLY bad), no other team will want you.

Jesus, there are thugs playing in the NFL - and they have been "bad guys" since they were in College. However, "most" NFL teams will usually take a chance on a player if - and only if- he can put "asses in the seats".

Kaepernick is at the opposite end of that scale.....

jjjayb 10-17-2017 04:38 PM
If a quarterback came out as a white supremacist Nazi loving racist, would it be collusion if nobody signed him? Or would it just be that none of the owners want to put up with his baggage? :hmmm:

cooper barrett 10-17-2017 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by jjjayb (Post 13158510)
If a quarterback came out as a white supremacist Nazi loving racist, would it be collusion if nobody signed him? Or would it just be that none of the owners want to put up with his baggage? :hmmm:
Apples and oranges....

Iowanian 10-17-2017 06:47 PM
It's not universal but most times if someone is protesting I think they are a ****.

cooper barrett 10-17-2017 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 13158044)
Oh please do explain how you got screwed over due to your political beliefs. I cant wait to hear this.
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Originally Posted by Black Bob (Post 13158028)
I hope he wins. I have been screwed over because of my political beliefs.

Crickets. nothing but ****ing crickets.

ping2000 10-17-2017 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Bob (Post 13158028)
I hope he wins. I have been screwed over because of my political beliefs.
No, it's all on you, not your politics.

Frazod 10-17-2017 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 13158722)
It's not universal but most times if someone is protesting I think they are a ****.
It's pretty much universal. My office building is surrounded by government buildings in downtown Chicago, two with open plazas. So I'm pretty much in the middle of protest central. With few exceptions they're do-nothing shitbags who've earned nothing and deserve nothing, screaming at the top of their lungs for more free shit on top of the free shit they already get. And whether they're singing, or chanting, or being egged on by some asshat liberal politician who's playing the whole damn bunch of them, there's always one common theme - nobody involved is missing work.

Rausch 10-17-2017 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 13158722)
It's not universal but most times if someone is protesting I think they are a ****.
You better change your opinions on that.

Soon it will be "us..."

Buehler445 10-17-2017 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by cooper barrett (Post 13158736)
Crickets. nothing but ****ing crickets.
Isn't Black Bob the sword swallower that said we deserved the LV shooting?

Yeah. It's because you're politics. Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.

Rausch 10-17-2017 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 13158803)
Isn't Black Bob the sword swallower that said we deserved the LV shooting?

Yeah. It's because you're politics. Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.
And he blew his uncle...(his words.)

Buehler445 10-17-2017 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 13158805)
And he blew his uncle...(his words.)
Mother of God. How did I forget that?

Pablo 10-17-2017 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 13158805)
And he blew his uncle...(his words.)
Tigger blew his uncle too. Bunch of uncle suckers on this site.

BucEyedPea 10-17-2017 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 13157366)
It is not collusion when teams want no part of the drama following him. Fans will quit spending money. Planes will fly banners. Not worth it.

Then add the fact his last couple games were bad. Then he would be rusty af.
He's supposed to be near the bottom 23 as a QB. That doesn't help.

DaneMcCloud 10-17-2017 07:55 PM
From a legal perspective, this case doesn’t make sense.

In order to prove collusion, Geragos would need multiple texts, emails and recorded conversations between team officials (e.g., GM’s, owners, scouts and other front office people).

And while Kaepernick earned $43 million in his brief career, my guess is that someone else is funding this suit, especially since he rejected offers from the CFL.

It’s unclear as to how he’s more employable after said lawsuit.

DaneMcCloud 10-17-2017 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea (Post 13158832)
He's supposed to be near the bottom 23 as a QB. That doesn't help.
That’s irrelevant.

He’s better than Hoyer, Bortles, Kizer, Hogan and many, many others.

Sans the protests, he’d be somewhere.

Ragged Robin 10-17-2017 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13158873)
That’s irrelevant.

He’s better than Hoyer, Bortles, Kizer, Hogan and many, many others.

Sans the protests, he’d be somewhere.
Dude is 4W 20L in his last 24 starts. Tebow had a better record before the league shut the door on him.

DaneMcCloud 10-17-2017 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Ragged Robin (Post 13158931)
Dude is 4W 20L in his last 24 starts. Tebow had a better record before the league shut the door on him.
How many wins has Hoyer or Matt Cassel or any number of QB’s had in that time frame?

PS - You’re a raging ****. Congrats.

Rausch 10-17-2017 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13158873)
That’s irrelevant.

He’s better than Hoyer, Bortles, Kizer, Hogan and many, many others.

Sans the protests, he’d be somewhere.
And people will pay to put up with that.

They won't pay to put up with HATRED for law enforcement.

And don't tell me this is about civil rights when I've read his and his g/f's tweets...

DaneMcCloud 10-17-2017 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 13158938)
And people will pay to put up with that.

They won't pay to put up with HATRED for law enforcement.

And don't tell me this is about civil rights when I've read his and his g/f's tweets...
So, if he was a white guy protesting, people would listen?

Is that what I’m supposed to get from this take?

Rausch 10-17-2017 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13158946)
So, if he was a white guy protesting, people would listen?
No.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13158946)
Is that what I’m supposed to get from this take?
Not at all.

He's a guy who's been brainwashed by his woman and has gone full SJW.

It's not hard to put their posts together and after so many "kill whitey" posts you can't hire this guy.

You can't defend it.

You either are a cuck or just don't get that calling for the murder of white people is a problem...

Strongside 10-17-2017 09:45 PM
https://i.imgflip.com/1tuulm.jpg

Tribal Warfare 10-18-2017 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13158946)
So, if he was a white guy protesting, people would listen?

Is that what I’m supposed to get from this take?
All intents and purposes Kaepernick is white. His biological mother, and his foster family are Caucasian.Collin's foster family gave him a very comfortable lifestyle , thus Kaep's protest should be discredited because he was never profiled as a black criminal growing up


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