Everyone take a deep breath, and say it with me in unison...

If he looked good with Goff, he'll look even better with Mahomes

People have to take into account that the offense has been very "vanilla" (Reid's own words btw) this preseason so we haven't seen many plays that will be coming out of the playbook come opening day. IF Sammy and Pat still aren't connecting by the time we play the Pats (game six) then I'd be worried. But not now, it's way too early and folks are being way too reactionary as usual.

possibly, but in the preseason games so far, seems there is always 1 play when it seems either Watkins doesn't expect the ball, or isn't running all out through the pattern. That was the appearance I took away from this particular play.

I think it was more of him getting tangled up with the DB. a bit. His hip may not be 100% yet either. Idk. :shrug:

Goff had an o-line ?:rolleyes:

Why should we be worried about Watkins. He had three steps on the defender when Mahomes overthrew him. He was open for what could have been a big gain on the hail mary pass to Hill. He was well open on that cross route where Mahomes threw it behind him. He seems to be open quite a bit. Mahomes can do better.

I still dont expect Watkins to have a monster season though but a good one.

Vanilla or not if your o-line can't create any holes nor pass protect against No.2's on defense(yesterday) and likewise when the No.2's on offense for the Bears hand our No.1's on defense their asses allowing Daniel to look like an All Pro it will be a long season period. :shrug:

This may very well be true, Mr. TLO. I am in max agog mode over the Sammy signing, but he does appear to be dogging it. I'd like to believe it's just me, but I don't.

If it's his hip, that's troubling because who know how limited he may be now and what issues the injury may lead to later on. On the other hand, if he was just "tangled up with the db" as you say, then Sammy needs to heed the Human Trebuchet's mantra and fight every down. That means kicking the db's ass, get open, and catch the damn ball.

FAX THE SAMMY FAN

Same here on the overthrow. You can see Watkins accelerate on his last few steps trying to catch up to the ball. Not sure if that means he wasn't expecting the pass to head his way, but it could be that. Maybe he was the third or fourth option on that play, and in the past for him it meant the ball wasn't coming his way.

It's preseason. Watkins is in absolutely no danger of being cut.

He probably isn't trying very hard and that's fine. I wouldn't be out there giving it my all risking injury for no reason either.

End of the day his stat line probably isn't going to look like a 16mm/yr receiver and the majority will probably conclude - rightly or wrongly - that signing him was a mistake. But his value will come in opening up opportunities for Hill, Kelce, and Hunt. He's a force out there many times more powerful than Conley or Robinson (or Albert Wilson!) in the same role. I can live with that because it increases the odds that Mahomes takes a leap forward sooner to become what we've all been dreaming about.

I feel like Watkins is an expensive insurance policy. Lose one of he guys for a few games and you are still ok. I like our younger players more than him getting 39 mil. We need guards and a DB.

I think we pay Watkins what we do because he makes everyone around him better. No defense can afford to take a play off against the Chiefs with him on the roster as our 2nd? 3rd?? 4th??? option. Paying Watkins means that the defense can't load up on any one player, that there will always be a mismatch somewhere on the field for Mahomes to exploit.

Unless they can show they can block people up front, we're gonna get blitzed and all these pieces won't get a chance to do much.

I never saw and issue with Hill,Travis Kelce, and Hunt getting the rock with how things were before. If anything, it was a matter of shoring up the backup receivers to be suitable at their job. Conley going down last year changed the makeup dramatically cause he was actually quite good making the most of his opportunities. Couldn't really say the same of Robinson or Albert Wilson.

So you're saying that Mahomes sucks?

needs to do better!!

I don't disagree with most of this, but I think you're giving Conley too much credit. Having a real weapon at his position rather than a JAG is a gamechanger in my view. He's a combine warrior but he doesn't play like it.

If he has one more step on that DB and catches a 50 yard bomb think how different the conversation is in here?

Sammy will be fine and I was extremely happy to draft him as my #3 WR. See you in the championship.

Pretty sure Sammy pulled up on the route thinking he wasn't getting the ball.

You can see him accelerate past the defender, as if he had slowed down.

Couple that with the Mahomes being visibly upset after the play. His body language didn't look to me like he was upset at himself.

I'm 90% confident that play wasn't on Mahomes, but instead Watkins quitting on the play too early.

Sammy is playing like $#it.

He is. If he has some elaborate knowledge of our route tree he sure as hell isn't showing it.

That said - I BELIEVE...

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I'm going to pretend that we're keeping him under wraps until we unveil him the first game of the regular season.

No need to pretend, he's new to the offense. It's not like he forgot how to play football. They'll click.

Dude was clearly playing lazy during preseason.

So what do yall expect from Watkins this year in terms of yards and TDs? I'll say 800 yards and 9 TDs.

That would be a very good return from Sammy.

This.

We paid him and he acted like he got paid.

I'm not even expecting that, honestly. I really expect Eddie Kennison numbers.

BUT DON'T SHIT THE BED WHEN YOUR NUMBER IS CALLED...

I think 800 yards is reasonable, but 9 TD's is a bit high. Probably like 4 TD's.

Reason I went that high is because I think they'll be looking for him in the N-zone often tbh.

Yeah I'm just not feeling the panic yet, like, at all

Mahomes > Goff, we'll be fine

I feel like some Chiefs reporter has already written the first two paragraphs of Sammy's turn-around story they're going to post week 4 after he gets two touchdowns. In fact I feel like I've read so many of those paint by numbers stories that I'm already ahead in time and just skimming it.

I'm like that teacher in A Christmas Story grading papers. Blah blah blah camp and the young Mahomes chemistry blah blah blah Sammy Watkins 4th dimension blah blah but they always knew it would click eventually blah blah blah he's a different cat, Reid said blah blah blah we just gotta take it one day at a time and keep improving.

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I’m confident Watkins will underperform his contract.

Either due to injury, efffort, being the 3rd-4th option in the offense, or some combo of the 3.

Watkins will put up close to top 10 numbers this season if he stays on the field.

Totally agree

If your speculation is correct and Sammy half-assed it, hopefully that play was a learning experience for him. Never give up on Mahomes. He has incredible vision downfield and the ability to extend plays. He has the Superman arm strength to hit any receiver at any time. Never give up on the play.

Just drafted Watkins 75th in my draft.

Hope over cynicism!

Based on what?

Depends on perspective. That's not a very good return based on the contract. But I don't think he could ever get 16 million worth of numbers with the other guys that will get the ball.

A lot of his contract value is going to be getting other guys away from double teams and helping Mahomes. Tough part for Sammy is that it's an expensive cost considering our other needs.

If the Chiefs had drafted Josh Jackson we wouldn't be worried about Sammy's contract but instead they took an out of position backup fatass

I got him WAY later than that.

Hard to disagree. He's a luxury when we had areas of glaring need.

Or is he just ahead of the curve? Seems offense is going to prosper with these idiotic new rules.

I was having a bad draft. My picks kept going off the board and I was on tilt.

The what?? :facepalm:

You know what his wife calls it...the nagger zone.

Anyone else think Sammy Watkins is freakin' GREAT after the catch?

He reminds of a faster Dwayne Bowe. He looked really strong when he drew contact today.

He looked good today. He would have had an even better day if Mahomes would have threw the ball a little shorter when Watkins was open deep in the end zone.

Had a cool 100 today, and did it on a variety of different plays

Knew it was only a matter of time... its impossible to double everyone you want to with KC

Honestly, I think Pat is so good that he just takes whatever the defense gives him. Last week it was Tyreek and Sherman (for god’s sake). This week it was Kelce, Watkins, and Reek. Who knows next week? All I know is, Pat finds the open man, scores touchdowns, and wins games!

He plays like a RB in space.

Great game for Sammy today. Glad to see Mahomes connecting with Sammy and Kelce now.

Yes. He has shown the ability to avoid, break, and even run through tackles so far. He is going to have quite games. But him having games like this when teams are focused on Hill is why we over-payed for him. I've been happy with his impact in both games.

Watkins is a beast and will be worth every penny on 3rd downs this year. He had a great game. Pick your poison.

Hill
Kelce
Watkins
Hunt
Conley
Robinson
Sausage
Harris
Ware
Williams