It's not the defense as a whole. Its Ragland. Dude is ****ing terrible and they won't give his snaps to Niemann.

is this a trick question?

Even if you think Ragland and hitchens will get it together and improve, this is a no brainer

Ragland was pretty good last year. WTF happened

OK. Forget PUP. That doesn't help us at all.

Gonna have to go with MUP.

FAX

Guys... he is done. He was just released by the worst team in the league.

This.

We have one here on Chiefsplanet. It's called getting rompered.

But not the worst defense in the league. Because that is us.

Ragland had 4 solos last Sunday. DJ had 3 ... on probably about 1/10 the snaps.

Just food for thought as we throw some more green wood on the fire.

FAX

That team traded away Khalil Mack. I couldn't give any less of a **** about their player evaluation skills.

Yes, but that team has no hope of competing and is trying to give young players an opportunity to flash. We're trying to cobble together the win-now-triage-team. It's not at all the same situation.

If we were 2-4 right now, there's a zero percent chance this is even remotely considered. But does he give us a better chance to win now? Probably. Is he cheap? Yes. Could be potentially add some feel-good mojo and act as a leader and mature veteran on the field? Absolutely.

Get this done, Veach.

Yeah, cause we should trust the judgement of the team that traded Mack to the bears

Derrick "Jesus" Johnson. ROFL

He even tackles leprosy to the ground.

FAX

He ain't resurrecting this defense.

No, but he could help this ILB core out with what Sutton and Deleone expect them to do, because they are both completely ****ing lost 6 games into the season.

We haven't yet experienced his second coming.

FAX

no but maybe he can coach some tackling

He can walk on weak-side pull blocks.

FAX

You don't coach professionals on how to tackle. They either do it or they don't.

If the coaching staff can't get them to understand it, how is a player going to help?

This looks like a giant nothing story.

What? You bring Derrick Johnson in as a coach in that scenario. You know, the thing that Andy Reid has already stated he wants Derrick Johnson to do in the future? No time like the present since he's got actual hands on experience with this scheme.

your choice to be a fan

The d has zero leadership on the field. DJ may not be the same player he was a few years ago, but he would definitely fill the leadership role. That may just be the spark they need

Eric Berry can't be ****ing bothered to do it.

Wasn't he the Captain of the D?

Who is that now?

He's day to day

Uncle moist nips

I understand what the naysayers are getting at, but if DJ could just put Ragland on the bench where he belongs... thats a win all day long

Situations like this usually cause me to pause a bit, but this seems like a no brainer... bring him back at vet minimum, and bring some stability back to the ILB corp

drag his ass

Two broke dicks that can't stay healthy enough to put pads on

WHY HASNT IT BEEN ANNOUNCED YET?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why you bring him in to coach a scheme that pretty much everybody here thinks is garbage?

Yet another band aid on a femoral bleed. Just delaying the inevitable.

The Chiefs didn't want him during the off season. We didn't even talk to him about a cut or anything and you could tell it was a surprise to him. I doubt they want him now.
He asked for his release from the Raiders and they obliged him. They didn't just cut him.

Ragland hasn't been moved to the bench yet. His backups can't even manage to get on the field most of the time.

DJ isn't moving him to the bench. :shake:

Fish surprisingly sounds good right now

No ****ing shit, dude. We've already established that we're stuck with Bob Sutton until the end of the year. Bring in DJ as an assistant like Joey Porter so he can at least attempt to help these guys understand what they'll be doing for the rest of the year and when Sutton gets shitcanned hire DJ to the new staff as the LB coach. That's pretty much exactly how Joey Porter started his coaching career for Pittsburgh.

Yaaaaassss

Bad. Really bad. Super bad bad.

Not alone, but how about

- sign DJ for peanuts
- trade for Patrick Peterson
- get Berry back
- get Sorrenson back
- get Passangnon healed up
- get Houston healthy for the stretch run


How does that look?

He requested a release because he knew we needed help. And (we need to keep this real quiet, ok?) because Veachy got word to him through backchannels that he could have his old job back.

Dots, baby. Connected.

FAX

I get that you're passionate about this, but c'mon now

Reggie would go straight to the pine

Pass. If he was 25 instead of 35, I'd do it. But that's not the case. He's done.

Would he be better than Ragland is the only question to ask yourself

If the answer is yes, then welcome back DJ... yes, its just a band-aid, but we're bleeding out and need all the help we can get

Sorry FAX but it's time...

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You know damn well that they'd do something genious like sending Hitchens to the bench and keeping Ragland out there.

Then bring in DJ next year, after you fire Sutton. Don't saddle DJ with this crap, let him start fresh.

Much anger Andyoda senses in you...

A shot in the arm, Derrick would be

My thought was that Gruden always respected DJ, and any time he called one of our games he had great things to say about him.

I think Gruden realized that not even DJ's experience could help his young players, and because he knew that he wasn't bringing DJ back next year, that the classy thing to do was release him, and maybe DJ could make a contribution somewhere else.

I don't care how old he is, he knows the defense, and could at the very least mentor Ragland. At the very least. At best he would be one of the best tacklers for the defense. No one expects him to put the defense over the top, but he can add value to this team.

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Does he have to clear waivers or anything stupid like that or is he fair game to sign with any team?

Yum!

The loss to New England - more specifically, the WAY they lost to New England - was way too Chiefy for me.

Between the Earl Thomas crap and that game, I'm back to being disgusted with this franchise, which is even more frustrating because they're ruining the Mahomes mojo.

I'm going to LJS when i get out of here!

Let's get Dino Hackett back.

LMAO The Earl Thomas situation has you disgusted with the Chiefs? What the hell?

Was it their fault? Nope.

Was it typical of things that happen to the Chiefs? Abso-freaking-lutely.

We dodged a bullet with Earl.

He'd be on the IR list and we would have 2 max deals with safeties who can't stay on the field.

Keep telling yourself that. Nobody knows for sure but if that's what helps you sleep at night, that's cool.

No, the opposite is actually true. If we trade for him, give him the extension, and THEN he breaks his leg, THAT would be typical Chiefs.

It would have been typical chiefs if we traded for thomas and THEN he broke his leg

Which is why we should go trade for Peterson right now this second, like ricky-****ing-tick. Give them our first second rounder next year and a third or fourth in 2020, do as I outlined earlier, and then ****ing profit.

It's all typical Chiefs as far as I'm concerned. Drafting Speaks, paying high dollar for a highly-regarded free agent that sucks here, all of it.

That game was really hard to watch. I was much more at peace when it was 24-9 than when it ended 43-40.

It does!

What's wrong with Speaks? He actually flashed the potential to be at least competent if not good Sunday night.

ROFLROFL

DJ should already be on his way to KC

Gruden is getting rid of anyone who could potentially win a game

he is in route to draft his qb and move to vegas

Because he's going right back to the bench as soon as the other guys are healthy. He was a 2nd round pick that they traded up to get and flashing or not, he's not a starter.

When a defense is THIS bad, that's just not acceptable. They've spent so much money and capital on this defense and it's not just bad, it's the worst defense ever. Pretty deflating, at least for me.

It's not the end of the world that a DE to OLB conversion project isn't getting starting snaps 6 games into his career over Houston and Ford.

Saw him in the self-checkout at Hyvee buying headcheese and KY

It's the worst defense in team history. These aren't normal circumstances.

I'd bring back DJ just to provide a lift for the guys on defense. He's a great guy, awesome CHIEF, and could help here and there.

You know what you need? A hug.

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He's bringing a lift for Ragland at least...

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ROFLROFLROFL

Ziggy Hood got released, want him too?

Can he play safety?

I think they should be kicking the tires on about everyone right now, just my view.