Very long, but excellent read on Brent Venables' defense -

https://rileykolstefootball.com/2018...-base-defense/

For football defense junkies, please go to link and read and see what you think.

He's a Kansas guy, didn't realize that. Could he be a Chiefs fan growing up?

this stood out to me..

Here's one from left field: Time to bring Adam Zimmer back? Maybe too much history with the Chiefs? If he was willing, he'd bring lots of post season experience with him. Was in KC 2010-2012. Been Vikings' LB coach for 5 years. The Viking defense has been STELLAR. Top 5 in last 3 years. Top 15 for 5 years.


Adam Zimmer (born January 13, 1984) is an American football coach who is the linebackers coach for the Minnesota Vikings of the National Football League (NFL). He has been an assistant defensive backs coach for the Cincinnati Bengals and assistant linebackers' coach for the Kansas City Chiefs and New Orleans Saints. Zimmer is the son of current Minnesota Vikings head coach Mike Zimmer.

New Orleans Saints

Zimmer landed his first coaching job with the New Orleans Saints as an assistant linebackers' coach in 2006. During his first season in the NFL, the Saints won the NFC South Division Title and made it to the NFC Championship game. In the 2009 season, Zimmer's final season in New Orleans, the Saints went on to win Super Bowl XLIV.

Kansas City Chiefs

Zimmer became the Chiefs' assistant linebackers coach in the 2010 season. In his first season, he helped the Chiefs allow 46.2 fewer rushing yards per game compared to the year before.

In the 2011 season, linebackers Tamba Hali and Derrick Johnson were selected to the Pro Bowl.

During the 2012 season, linebacker Jovan Belcher fatally shot his girlfriend then drove to the Chiefs' facility where he committed suicide in front of head coach Romeo Crennel. Adam Zimmer was strongly affected by this, especially after he had recently lost his mother of natural causes in 2009. Zimmer was let go when Kansas City fired Crennel after the 2012 season.

Cincinnati Bengals

For the 2013 season, Zimmer joined the Bengals alongside his father Mike Zimmer as an assistant defensive backs coach while his dad was the defensive coordinator.

Minnesota Vikings

When Mike Zimmer became the 9th head coach of the Minnesota Vikings for the 2014 season, Adam Zimmer was brought in to be the linebackers' coach. The Vikings won the NFC North Division Title in the 2015 season, allowing only 18.9 points per game on defense, ranked 5th-best in the NFL. Linebacker Anthony Barr was selected to the 2016 Pro Bowl as a replacement for Jamie Collins.

Venables would be lovely, but he just got a big raise at Clemson and his kid goes there, so I'm sure it would be tough to convince him to leave.

Venables isn't abandoning his family at Clemson, has unlimited job security (look at all the HC jobs he declined) and is getting paid very well to be a DC there.

He's never leaving for the NFL.

I don't want a retread especially if they refuse to change the system. Part of the thing that makes me really nervous about Rex Ryan.

I wish Andy Reid would take a page out of his playbook. Hire some inexperienced young gun who's a bright defensive mind with a unique angle to defense. Hire Steve Spagnuolo as a special assistant or co-coordinator - give him a Childress role of researching the hell out of NFL, college, high school defenses while also mentoring the new DC on a leadership side. That's how Reid became the most innovative offensive mind in today's game. Why the hell wouldn't he do the same for our defense?

I'd settle for average over this disaster.

But at this stage after the hiring swarm, that basically means hire someone else's leftovers. If we want a truly great defense, good chance we need to take a risk.

requires lots of man coverage, similar to what sutton runs. Ironically, New England ran the same 1 high man scheme the entire first half, rolling the one high towards hill. KC's receivers were no physical enough off the line. They rushed 4, used Van Noy as a robber/spy, and green dogged whomever was on the running back. Nothing crazy.

Kris Richard has to be the #1 choice... this article says it all:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-coaching-shot

Needs to be somebody using a Dean Pees type system. The Seattle scheme was figured out years ago, and the Rex Ryan type scheme is the same thing we've been using.

I would actually be fine with keeping our current system if it was deployed properly and the attitude was more aggressive. Stop the "bend but don't break" and go balls out and attack and if they beat you over the top.. then we Mahomes to get another score for us.

What about stealing Todd Wash away from Jacksonville? You’d have to think he’d love to get away from that dumpster fire.

Yeah problem is we do not have the Cowboys players.... Not only no, but **** no.

Let me know when we have Cowboys level defensive players.....

I think there's still legs to the Under scheme. You could take that scheme and borrow what Chicago did to turn it into more of a 3-4 look.

0% chance the Cowboys let Richard take a job somewhere else

If I see one more of you post "Scheme was figured out" I swear to god.

For the last ****ing time, SCHEME had nothing to do with it. NOT ADJUSTING DID

I don’t like the lack of options I’ll tell you that much.

Hence why Rex Ryan is the most logical fit.

Yea I think it’s Ryan or Spags

I think Rex Ryan would be ok, because I don't think he would stay long but would at least sort out the cluster **** that werthers left. He would use that DC gig to springboard some stupid team into giving him a 3rd chance at HC.

I really like the work that Chris Hewitt has done with the Ravens secondary. That's somebody I would be talking to.

The same Rex Ryan who inherited a Buffalo defense ranked 2nd in overall DVOA and ended up ranked 24th in overall DVOA when he was fired three years later?

A successful college DC from a major program under 50 years of age, preferably with prior experience in the NFL. Who that is, specifically, I don't need know.

NOT one of Andy's NFL buddies. Not someone over 60.

Someone who can scheme how to stop an offense like ours...

Hey I agree,

taking a 4-3 and trying to shove it into a 3-4 was a dumb idea.

But again, even after he ****ed it up they still STILL were 24th........ I'll take that shit to the super bowl with this offense.

That's an argument for not hiring him to be your Head Coach, or to hire a guy that's going to mess with something that was already working perfectly fine for you.

Both of them have beat the Pats.....so I guess there's that.

One did it with Mark Sanchez and so so pass rush.

Someone who loves the 4-3 with ALL OF THEIR HEART.

I just want an aggressive defense. Sucks to watch the other team go 8 minute drive to start the game. Shit or get off the pot. Force a turnover/sack or give up a quick TD. At least the other team isn’t hogging the ball.

Other thing is an aggressive defense would be good practice for the KC offense. Ravens and Patriots showed a good blueprint on slowing down the Chiefs offense. More practice against ultra aggressive schemes can only help the KC offense.

Guys, Venables is not leaving Clemson. He had no interest in returning to his alma mater, KSU, when Bill Snyder retired. He has a son on Clemson's team and another son in high school who will likely also sign with Clemson. So, just go ahead and cross Venables off the list for Chiefs DC.

Dick Lebeau

He's old enough to be Sutton's daddy. You sure you want an 81 yr old DC?

They probably already have their guy in mind. I am sure Andy had a plan when he fired Sutton.

so Clemson can pay more to him than the NFL’s Chiefs? Not buying that. The NFL Is a $24 BILLION operation. How much does Clemson do?

Reid likes to work with “his” coaches. Who has worked with him before besides Spags?

Probably.

I don't think Andy planned to fire Sutton, I think Clark finally forced his hand.

In any event, if the rumors were true about Bob's "retirement plan", then the Chiefs would have been secretly hunting and making calls as soon as 4 weeks ago as a sort of "contingency plan" if and when the Chiefs lost the AFCCG.

They couldn't actively hold interviews for the position, as that is a bad look for any prospects they might have been interested in, but you can absolutely go under the radar, make some calls, explain the situation, and agree to meet should the outcome of the AFCCG go south.

I'd love to see them announce one of the hot property college coaches with a defensive pedigree, but I'm almost certain were going to be looking at Mike Smith unless Andy and Veach put something in to motion going all the way back to the beginning of the season. And by that I mean, they gave Sutton the reprieve under the condition that things had to improve with the understanding that if they did not, that Veach and Reid were going to have someone picked out well before the season ended, and recruited from outside the organization.

We'll see. I'm glad Sutton's gone, but I want a scheme change as well.

Yes we are!!! Best news I’ve heard all day. With that being said, gimme Spags!

There was a coach in my HS named Brent Venables. He was a basketball guy though.

People should get off the Venables dreams. He's not leaving Clemson while his son is going there.

Im partial to the 3-4, but anyone that can get them to tackle beats out my scheme favoritism.

Does Wally have any history with Don Brown? How about Mel Tucker?

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