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pugsnotdrugs19 04-26-2019 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 14233459)
Jesus. I don't feel like drafting two is the way to go but I'm not going to deny that would be ****ing insane.

You gotta think of it this way man. Both probably could start at this point. And if Watkins gets hurt for any period of time, which seems likely, we will need that extra depth badly.

It’s entirely possible that two WRs are at the top of their draft board when they pick due to the depth at that position right now, filled with day 2 level players.

With Watkins possibly on his way out next spring, two picks tonight sets you up to take that blow if necessary. But they may keep him now that Reek is gone, idk.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-26-2019 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14233366)
So what should they do, not pick up anyone?

They’re not finding another Tyreek. But that doesn’t mean you just stop adding receivers. There is depth there right now. They would be stupid if they didn’t take at least one wide out.

Take ONE guy, the very best you can find, whose known specialty is intermediate to long routes and hope for the best.

No, he won't be Hill, he won't even be 1st round talent, but it will have to work. We have the short yardage personnel and game covered. What Hill gave us was the ability to go deep and succeed in doing so. And if we can't get that option back in to the play book, then we've lost a MAJOR component to our passing game.

We DO NOT want to limit ourselves to short field passing games and shoot-outs. If we do, we will not have the same success.

Iconic 04-26-2019 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14233553)
You gotta think of it this way man. Both probably could start at this point. And if Watkins gets hurt for any period of time, which seems likely, we will need that extra depth badly.

It’s entirely possible that two WRs are at the top of their draft board when they pick due to the depth at that position right now, filled with day 2 level players.

With Watkins possibly on his way out next spring, two picks tonight sets you up to take that blow if necessary. But they may keep him now that Reek is gone, idk.

I think I'd be okay with it so long as they don't reach on a WR. If two guys with talent like Butler and Parris are actually there for both picks I wouldn't be mad. I just don't think it's going to play out that way but **** if I know. No one thought Tytus would go round one and look what happened LMAO

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-26-2019 03:18 PM

Watkins has always felt like a half assed consolation prize. I hope he DOES walk next spring and we replace him with someone tougher and more talented.

Kiimo 04-26-2019 03:20 PM

Or his foot situation finally works itself out, crazier things have happened.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-26-2019 03:23 PM

Watkins is plenty talented. It’s just staying healthy

Shields68 04-26-2019 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14233391)
Two rookie WRs isn't going to do a ton for this offense. Draft one and if you still don't think it's enough....go find a veteran.

That would be my position. Draft 1 and look to sign probably Crabtree or Inman. But the nothing there with the investigation look and then the Tyreke bomb hitting probably torched their original draft strategy and putting this team together, .

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-26-2019 03:28 PM

Could we get Riley Ridley in the third

pugsnotdrugs19 04-26-2019 03:38 PM

I will say one thing for Demarcus Robinson — he and Mahomes have some great chemistry and he seems to make far more big plays than Conley ever did.

I wouldn’t hate him being our #3 but again, Watkins’ durability issues could have him at #2 quickly.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-26-2019 03:41 PM

I like D Rob. Contract year as well

ROYC75 04-26-2019 03:59 PM

Draft Scout had these times and projections on Top 15 WR's
 
DS Rank
Player Name College Proj High Projected Proj Low Height Weight 40 Time Range Hometown, State High School
1
*D.K. Metcalf Mississippi Early-Mid 1st 1 Mid-Late 1st 6-3 228 4.30 - 4.40 Oxford, MS Oxford
2
*Marquise Brown Oklahoma Early-Mid 1st 1 2nd/INJ 5-09 166 4.24 - 4.45 Hollywood, FL Chaminade Madonna
3
*NKeal Harry Arizona State Mid-Late 1st 1-2 2nd 6-3 225 4.46 - 4.62 Chandler, AZ Chandler
4
*A.J. Brown Mississippi Mid-Late 1st 1-2 2nd 6-0 226 4.42 - 4.57 Starkville, MS Starkville
5
Parris Campbell Ohio State Late 1st 1-2 2nd 6-0 205 4.27 - 4.38 Akron, OH St. Vincent-St. Mary
6
Deebo Samuel South Carolina Late 1st 2 2nd 5-11 214 4.40 - 4.57 Inman, SC Chapman
7
*Hakeem Butler Iowa State Late 1st 2 2nd 6-6 220 4.42 - 4.56 Baltimore, MD Travis
8
*Riley Ridley Georgia 2nd 2-3 3rd 6-1 194 4.48 - 4.64 Coconut Creek, FL Deerfield Beach
9
*Kelvin Harmon North Carolina State 2nd 2-3 3rd 6-2 221 4.50 - 4.65 Palmyra, NJ Palmyra
10
*Miles Boykin Notre Dame 2nd 2-3 3rd 6-4 220 4.36 - 4.50 Tinley Park, IL Providence Catholic
11
*J.J. Arcega-Whiteside Stanford Late 2nd 3 4th 6-2 225 4.44 - 4.59 Inman, SC Dorman
12
Andy Isabella Massachusetts Late 2nd 3 4th 5-09 188 4.27 - 4.52 Mayfield, OH Mayfield
13
*Mecole Hardman Georgia Late 2nd 3 4th 5-10 183 4.24 - 4.42 Bowman, GA Elbert County
14
Emanuel Hall Missouri 3rd 3-4 5th 6-2 201 4.30 - 4.47 Franklin, TN Centennial
15
Terry McLaurin Ohio State 3rd 4 5th 6-0 208 4.26 - 4.44 Indianapolis, IN Cathedral

ROYC75 04-26-2019 04:00 PM

Draft Scouts Top 15 CB's
 
DS Rank
Player Name College Proj High Projected Proj Low Height Weight 40 Time Range Hometown, State High School
1
*Greedy Williams LSU Early 1st 1 Mid-Late 1st 6-2 182 4.33 - 4.46 Shreveport, LA Calvary Baptist Academy
2
*Byron Murphy Washington Mid 1st 1 2nd 5-11 189 4.46 - 4.60 Scottsdale, AZ Saguaro
3
DeAndre Baker Georgia Mid 1st 1 2nd 5-11 190 4.44 - 4.59 Miami, FL Northwestern
4
Rock Ya-Sin Temple Late 1st 1-2 2nd 6-0 192 4.45 - 4.59 Decatur, GA Southwest Dekalb
5
*Julian Love Notre Dame Late 1st 2 2nd 5-11 195 4.45 - 4.59 Westchester, IL Nazareth
6
Amani Oruwariye Penn State Late 1st 2 2nd 6-2 205 4.42 - 4.56 Tampa, FL Gaither
7
*Trayvon Mullen Clemson 2nd 2 3rd 6-2 195 4.38 - 4.54 Fort Lauderdale,, FL Coconut Creek
8
Lonnie Johnson Jr. Kentucky 2nd 2 3rd 6-2 210 4.40 - 4.58 Gary, IN Gary West Side
9
*Sean Bunting Central Michigan 2nd 2-3 3rd 6-0 195 4.35 - 4.49 Clinton Township, MI Chippewa Valley
10
*Justin Layne Michigan State 2nd 2-3 3rd 6-2 192 4.42 - 4.58 Cleveland, OH Benedictine
11
Isaiah Johnson Houston 2nd 2-3 3rd 6-2 205 4.30 - 4.47 Bryan, TX Rudder
12
*JoeJuan Williams Vanderbilt 2nd 3 3rd 6-4 211 4.55 - 4.68 Nashville, TN Father Ryan/Hendersonville
13
*Kendall Sheffield Ohio State 2nd 3 3rd/INJ 6-0 189 4.25 - 4.45 Missouri City, TX Thurgood Marshall
14
*Jamel Dean Auburn 3rd 3 4th 6-1 206 4.24 - 4.38 Cocoa, FL Cocoa
15
Jordan Brown South Dakota State 3rd 3-4 4th 6-0 201 4.44 - 4.58 Scottsdale, AZ Paradise Valley

ROYC75 04-26-2019 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14233614)
Could we get Riley Ridley in the third

His high is a 2, projected 2-3 and a low of 3

38yrsfan 04-26-2019 04:16 PM

Mahomes will take care of team motivation issues his way. He has the support and the 'backup' to make it his team and 'his way' or the highway. IMHO

ROYC75 04-26-2019 04:53 PM

I like both of these guys, both are fast!
 
Parris Campbell

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Terry McLaurin

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Stryker 04-26-2019 06:02 PM

Agree with OP. We are not done for yet and we need to follow through with the draft - let the cards fall as they may and reassess after the fact. Still plenty of time to see what is what at the end of it all before going into the season.

pugsnotdrugs19 04-26-2019 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14232955)
Hardman is my favorite so far. WOW. Some serious speed there and athleticism. Seems to run good routes and tracks the ball fine. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l-vEh0APdVU

I’m happy. :)

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-26-2019 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 14233554)
Take ONE guy, the very best you can find, whose known specialty is intermediate to long routes and hope for the best.

No, he won't be Hill, he won't even be 1st round talent, but it will have to work. We have the short yardage personnel and game covered. What Hill gave us was the ability to go deep and succeed in doing so. And if we can't get that option back in to the play book, then we've lost a MAJOR component to our passing game.

We DO NOT want to limit ourselves to short field passing games and shoot-outs. If we do, we will not have the same success.

Me too :)

pugsnotdrugs19 04-26-2019 11:45 PM

Well everyone, did we accomplish the goal tonight or what?... I sure think so.

Here’s the deal, IMO:

Hardman isn’t Hill and that’s okay. He’s not supposed to be. He’s actually going to step in and probably be our #2/3 WR this year. He’ll probably return punts. The odds are long, but we really need Watkins to earn his keep in 2019 as our true #1 WR (although Kelce is obviously the primary option). Take some pressure off this kid in particular.

Long term, I think Mecole has DeSean Jackson/T.Y Hilton upside. With the perfect match along side Mahomes and Reid, he’s got a real shot to get there. But that shouldn’t be expected in year one. The best we can realistically hope for in 2019 is that we just acquired a true down field threat who will score a handful of 50+ yard TDs possibly. That vertical threat element remains to some degree due to Hardman.

Thornhill should immediately start at FS and be a great add. Saunders is going to provide some push on the interior in relief of Nnadi, and he has great long term potential next to Jones.

We ain’t done yet, but this was a great night to put us back en route toward that ultimate goal.

Hoover 04-27-2019 12:00 AM

We should swing a deal for Kyle Rudolph

BryanBusby 04-27-2019 12:04 AM

I think Gresham could be ok in a pinch if he's healthy

Frosty 04-27-2019 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 14235857)
We should swing a deal for Kyle Rudolph

My thought too. Do whatever it takes to get back into the 4th and draft BBK and then send a later round pick from next year for Rudolph. Still a need at Corner but I think they could get through this year with the ones we have, especially with better safety play.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-27-2019 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 14235868)
My thought too. Do whatever it takes to get back into the 4th and draft BBK and then send a later round pick from next year for Rudolph. Still a need at Corner but I think they could get through this year with the ones we have, especially with better safety play.

Veach said they won’t do anything in the fourth. Did say mid fifth they may swing a deal if a third and fourth round pick on their board is there


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