Andy Reid would make him a star.

He is worth a slawbburger, fries and a bottle of Ski

Outscored by Mr Lllllllimmiiiited and a pop gun Bronco offense....absolutely pathetic

Time for people to stop fawning over douchebags who win national championships.

Lawrence ****ing sucks.

IDK, number one picks generally go to offenses that have many holes. Sam Bradford comes to mind.

His 'generational" label was more based on elite potential...that he would eventually evolve into a Manning type QB. He looked the part at 19..never lost a game in HS then won a national title as a freshman.

If another QB comes out with that initial burst...he'll be touted the same.

Hindsight is what it is...but his freshman highlights looked every bit the "next big thing".

He just didnt take the next step...or hasn't so far. Wasn't in the ideal situation with his 3rd HC in a year and a half..

He might retire after losing to that piece of shit team

FYP

Somebody needs to get queer boy a pair of clippers. Can’t be out there looking like Tom Petty if you can’t rock bud.

Trevor Lawrence is certainly not a “generational talent” that the hype claimed him to be.

A year and a half into his NFL career and he is basically an above average Mitchell Trublowsky.

Looks like he’s not developing like I thought he would. I honestly thought he was good enough to have improved some but it’s not looking like it.

People thought Lawrence was "generational?!?" LMAO

Literally nobody fawned over T Martin.

About $1.79

What top QB has come from a blueblood college program?

Brady and he was playing college ball in the late 90s when talent was more even.

Mahomes: Texas Tech. Mediocre to bad talent.
Allen: Wyoming. G5 school.
Hurts: Bama & Okie but was never taught to play QB till NFL.
Rodgers: Cal. Mediocre to bad talent.
Herbert: Oregon's WRs were bad during his time there.

Lost in the hype over the National Championship Game was that Lawrence never really progressed much in 2019 and 2020.

He’s got a shit roster around him. Imagine him with Andy and our offense.

A worthers original that's covered in lint from being in grandpa's pants pocket for 6 months

well they certainly hyped him up like he was. I don't watch college FB so I wouldn't have known

His rookie year was wasted under that moron Meyer. This is his real rookie year.

He got drafted by Urban Meyer sure that was great for his development..

I think he’s a woman too.

It's almost as if you should sit rookie qbs or something.

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He isn't a pure bust like Trey Lance is though. That was a ****ing horrible pick by the 49ers.

Trevor has the physical tools to be a good starting NFL QB. Big, fast enough, big arm, pretty accurate. It's how fast he processes that's the problem.

Trevor is Jared Goff 2.0. A little bigger, faster, with a little better arm. He might someday figure out how to process faster, or he may be relegated to a Stefanski-type offense, where the QB doesn't have to make too many decisions.

The other thing is that he's basically a rookie again this season, right? New HC, OC, etc.?

It kinda makes me wonder who Veach is going to get to replace Henne long term. Draft picks are very valuable so will he draft a Kevin Kolb or trade for a Trevor Lawrence/Trey Lance or simply sign someone with potential upside in FA.

Watson preceded him from the same school same offense mostly the same talent and got drafted by a Brother****ing Cheatriot ****bag that set fire to the place. Sure he’s a rapist, but he’s still good.

These bluechip college QBs have just as high of a bust rate (if not bigger) as the QBs from smaller programs.

And quite a few of the top universities are having issues producing starting NFL QBs. People loved to rag on Texas Tech for years and years, but how many Tech guys before Mahomes got drafted in a 30 year span? Now compare that to the number of drafted Ohio State and Alabama guys in that same span. And finally, tally up the successful QBs from every school.

Oh. Looks like Tech comes out on top. They have 1, and tOSU and Alabama have a big fat ****ing squadoosh.

Thanks for playing, national championship winners.

Seriously. Name me the last decent starting NFL QB who came from Ohio State.

I'll wait. And I'll be here awhile.

Are you sure about that? We'll find out here in a few weeks that he is washed.

Those programs don't really produce QBs, a lot of the powerhouse teams haven't really produced a lot of NFL QB's, kinda weird I guess.

So many NFL teams should be just as skeptical of OSU QBs whenever the draft rolls around. We should be hearing anonymous scouts say, "Won't touch him in the 1st round. Ohio State QB." Just like we did with Mahomes and Tech.

And yet....

That much time away from the game can't be good.

However, Vick did come back and play pretty damn well after a similar amount of time away.

How many Ohio State QB's have been picked highly? Fields is like the only one..

Funny, it would be the guy they passed on for JT Barrett.

I suspect this won’t last long though. Ryan day runs a much more nfl friendly system unlike urban Meyer. Their recent qb recruiting has been strong. CJ stroud will get drafted high and has potential to be a middling version of Kirk cousins. And Justin fields has the upside to be a lower tier starting qb. So far his qb era is off to a decent start.

Agreed. Finding a QB is hard. Hell look at Russell Wilson, there is a shitload of NFL tape on him and he surprisingly blows ass. I’m as big a Donk hater as anyone and I thought he would be good for them.

Turns out finding QBs is hard.

Nope. Not even a little bit. And I hope he crashes and burns in a similar fashion to DangeRuss. But I think it’s fair to say for the purposes of the argument re: Lawrence that Clemson isn’t 100% of the problem.

You think the Jaguars are going to trade Lawrence for backup-QB level compensation? Or that we're going to trade away picks for a backup QB?

Jacksonville is nowhere near giving up on Lawrence.

I'd give a pile of dogshit or 2 for him!

Pederson had Wentz looking like an MVP and won a Super Bowl with Nick Foles.

If he can't get anything out of Lawrence, then Lawrence is truly shit.

But he'll get another year after this one to show something.

Those QBs are handicapped because they go from the perfect situation at Bama/OSU/Clemson where they have weapons, coaching, and defense galore to putrid franchise that have nothing similar.

"Trevor Lawrence is a winner" was the cry. No crap. He played at Clemson in the weak ACC. 95% of the teams he played in college were outgunned.

Then those QBs are drafted by desperate franchises and desperate fan bases who think the QB is going to do it all. But they struggle because they usually don't have the best coaches, weapons, or defensive support. So they lose confidence as they are blamed for everything.

"But he was a winner in college!"

Rinse and repeat. Stroud will be the new Fields. Young will be the next Tua.

Look at Jacksonvilles roster...it's pretty much a picture perfect scenario to have a QB look shitty.

You're making excuses. Lawrence has issues that go well beyond just the talent around him. He's just not nearly as talented as people made him out to be.

What are the elite traits?

Hint: he doesn't have any

I gotta credit staylor he nailed this one so far.

I think he deserves longer than 5 minutes without Urban Meyer to make a judgement.

Also if you say all QB's that get picked will suck you'll swing a decent %, I mean shit to this point Lawrence, Fields, Wilson none of them are any good.

Well, no. But does he have any physical traits that are below average? He has prototypical skills. Right now his biggest issue is between the ears especially in the red zone. But yeah in the pros he’s going to need to develop that quite a bit instead of relying on his supporting talent and leaky college defenses.

It’s just hard to really know what you have right now. Josh Allen was babied along in his early years and joe burrow was surrounded by elite talent. He’s really spent the whole offseason un****ing himself from coaching and then this season learning a very difficult offense. In a league where defenses have gotten way better and you’re not just going to have average rookies shredding the league anymore. Even vets like carr and Russell and rodgers are having tough years. Mecca is right in many ways that we’re watching guys like Lawrence and fields get thrown completely to the wolves.

I think we’ve gotten past thinking he’s a generational talent but if Trevor wasn’t such a disaster in the red zone he actually would be having a fairly normal sophomore season. He’s got a really really long way to go but I think there’s plenty good shot he turns into a very good qb.

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Two first rounders in the past 5 years. Fields and Haskins.

Seems to me like teams aren't averse to Ohio State QBs.

Trevor Lawrence never really had to comeback in games at Clemson. Dude was playing on front 99% of the time.

Only comeback win was against OSU who had a hurt RB, a DB that got ejected for targeting, and Fields choked

Trevor could flourish in the right system. Heck, he was doing okay the first couple weeks of the season until his best receiver got hurt.

Just imagine him in the 49ers offense, where he basically is just a game-manager with 3 really good weapons, a running scheme that almost any RB can excel in and a top-10 defense . . . he'd probably be better than Jimmy, just from his better arm and running ability.

That was sick run - thanks for sharing - not sure I'd seen that one before

Yeah, it's a cool video. There's some plays in there where you'd think you were actually watching the Chiefs. You can see NFL Patrick for sure. But you can also see some of the concepts Mahomes brought with him from college, concepts that have been incorporated into Reid's offense.

I think the development curve of QB's in the NFL has been distorted a bit by fans due to the early success of Mahomes, Lamar, Herbert, Burrow etc. Josh Allen for example looked pretty ordinary until his third season, we are seeing an emergence from Jalen Hurts as well in his third season.

I'm not ready to throw in the towel on Lawrence yet. The Urban Meyer saga didn't help the development of Lawrence, absolute fail by Jags ownership making that decision. Lawrence has to cut down on some mistakes, he's had some extremely bad redzone interceptions that just can't happen. I think with a little bit more seasoning and improving the supporting cast a bit more that Lawrence will be just fine. Maybe not as high as a ceiling as many predicted coming out of college but I still think he can be a top 8 QB in the NFL.

Burrow struggled his rookie season and then got hurt. He emerged in year 2. Lamar only started 7 games in situational action until coming of the bench as the full-time starter late in the season. Mahomes only started 1 game his rookie season.

Only Herbert really hit the ground running and had a stellar rookie season. The other guys all needed a year to develop. Starting a rookie at QB is almost like burning a season.

The problem is that Lawrence is now in his 2nd year and doesn't look dramatically improved from last year. He's being compared to those guys and he should be because he's just like them coming out.

Some semantics, but fields actually didn’t choke. Chris Olave cut off his route on the final INT of that game.

Yup, you also have to weigh in that mahomes and Lamar and Allen came into a way more qb friendly era. Defenses are way way better now. Plenty of veterans are having issues too.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trevor Lawrence: 5-20 career record <br><br>That&#39;s the worst among QBs drafted No. 1 overall through 25 career starts in Common Draft Era. <a href="https://t.co/ApUbSa2rHL">pic.twitter.com/ApUbSa2rHL</a></p>&mdash; CBS Sports HQ (@CBSSportsHQ) <a href="https://twitter.com/CBSSportsHQ/status/1586770844021309447?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 30, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Worse than David Carr, Tim Couch, and Jamarcus Russell. Damn.

Has Lawrence had the quantum leap that other QB's had in their 2nd season? No absolutely not but he has definitely improved his numbers, albeit slightly. On pace for close to 4000 yards passing, close to doubling his TD's thrown and although his INT's are still high, looks like he'll shave a few off of that number as well.

My main point is that since we've had such an influx of QB's who have had success very early on in their careers, I think NFL fans are way too impatient with the development of QB's. Especially in Lawrence's case where he couldn't have had a worse situation in his rookie season with the head coach and surrounding cast issues, I really think year 3 for Lawrence will be the true litmus test if Lawrence is the answer long term for Jacksonville.

Mahomes, Burrow, Herbert all had excellent supporting casts and surrounded their franchise QB with legitimate weapons. Hurts/Allen are perfect examples, first two years they had less than to be desired weapons, Hurts now has AJ Brown and is enjoying success. Allen went nuclear after the Bills traded for Diggs. Jacksonville has to find a way to give Lawrence an alpha receiver.

I wonder if the talent disparity has something to do with it. When you dominate your opponents because the talent around you is so much better than theirs then there is little incentive to improve or learn fundamentals.

Most QBs can be a decent game manager if they're in the perfect situation.

This is untrue.

No, we’ve seen lots of them that can’t.

Ridley to the jags for a 2nd and 5th.

Damn, that's a real good move. I love this move just as much as the bears trading for claypool for similar yet very different reasons

greatest comeback in the NFL this year

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trevor Lawrence in the 4th quarter today against the Ravens.<br><br>lmao. lmfao. <a href="https://t.co/BKCwmOe90u">pic.twitter.com/BKCwmOe90u</a></p>&mdash; Nate Tice (@Nate_Tice) <a href="https://twitter.com/Nate_Tice/status/1597018831687364613?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 28, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Wow. Kid made some throws

He's worth about 250 Russell Wilson's.

As I said before, if any coach could get Trevor to become a decent NFL QB, it would be Doug Pederson. He's got the knack for that sort of thing.

CP is the Wal-Mart of football takes LMAO

He beat Mighty Dallas, just tip your cap and laugh at Dallas

Kid threw 4 TDs against the best defense in football.

This isn’t actually true, but the DAL pass rush is the best in the NFL.

Nice work.

Love that 2 point conversion for the win. Seems like they did that just a couple weeks ago.

the Jags will go to the playoffs if they can beat TEN in Week 17

wouldn't want to play them

It’s the playoffs, dude. You gotta win tough games.

Who aside from the Ravens and Jets doesn’t scare you?

Well in the AFC playoffs that's the case. Number of teams I wouldn't mind playing in the NFC playoffs.

Chiefs would beat them easily

Woman by John Lennon was written for this guy.

League circles can confirm

I misread you post. You're of course right. "Most" can. But there's also plenty that can't or couldn't. I think we can agree on these two points.