No, I said to you in a PM that he was a mid-2nd round talent but that I don't like DL with motor issues. And I said that I wouldn't have taken him because I saw more pressing needs but that IF the Chiefs saw him as being that kind of value that yes, they should've taken him in the 1st.

You know all this shit. I've produced this 1,000 times to you and you still overplay your hand and act like you're some ****ing kreskin because Jones went exactly where I said he would go when I spoke to you pre-draft. And then I said that if the Chiefs saw more talent than I do they should've taken him in the 1st to get the 5th year option - and low and behold that's EXACTLY how it should've gone.

And hell, I found the Hunt thread; I said the dude would go for 1,200 all-purpose yards (not just 900). As a rookie. Without an obvious starting job yet. Yeah - really called the guy a piece of shit. Said I thought Kamara was more explosive and would fit the offense better - AND WAS RIGHT!

The things you pat yourself on the back for are just strange. No, I didn't say Hunt would lead the NFL in rushing - and? I hardly said he was trash and in the end the guy I wanted would've been the better get. I'll take that.

Even on a pure talent point, Kamara has more, if you put him on this offense we have now we'd be stupid special.

Are we sure Hunt is going to be as good away from Andy's offense anyway?

You can put as many players as you want on the IR but only 2 can return.

However, to be eligible to return, the player must make the 53 man roster. So if the Chiefs want to put 4 guys on the IR who they think can ALL return, they'll have to have find room for them on the 53 man for final cutdowns.

For guys like Dieter and really for Henne, that's just unnecessary, IMO. For guys like Kemp and Lovett - stash guys - just IR them before the final cutdown.

Yeah, Kamara in this offense would be good.

I kinda think Williams will be pretty special in it though.

Yea nothing wrong about your take on Hunt DJ.

Seems like every single thread these days just turns into a pissing match. Get a room.

But he was available at the K-Pass pick and that was what frustrated me. Moreover, who's to say K-Pass wouldn't have been there at the Hunt pick? Could've very easily still had both guys.

And in typical Staylor fashion, anyone who isn't loudly singing the praises of your favorite guys are clearly just shitting all over them.

I think I even asked you to try to sell me on the guy; I didn't shit on him, I was genuinely intrigued. But in the end I didn't see him as the right fit for the offense and preferred a more explosive option. And again, said he'd have 1,200 all purpose yards which is hardly bitching and moaning.

His talent is less than Alvin Kamara's. Who is who we should've drafted. But keep citing that time you preferred a less talented alcoholic over the more talented All Pro as proof of your genius.

At the end of the day though, these injuries really don't matter, guys at the bottom of the roster got hurt.

I guess. I mean, Hunt COULD still be here and he did lead the league in rushing; I'm not going to fault the FO for that pick.

Choosing KPass over Kamara was a mistake, but the Hunt pick certainly made up for it.

It's bizzare. The Chiefs have quite possibly the brightest present AND future in the NFL, and all anybody seems to do on this site is engage in stupid pissing contests and whine and bitch and moan.

JuJu Smith Schuster was drafted after Kpass, think about that.

Someone in here trying to refer to KPass as a JAG just to reinforce his point.

Clearly ignoring what is happening with KPass so you don't have to be wrong. Gross.

When the **** did I say I preferred Hunt to Kamara? I literally said I preferred Kamara in the 2nd in that same post.

You said Hunt was a complimentary back. You compared him to ****ing West LMAO

Damn. Mahomes, JuJu, and Hunt would have been insane.

In games that actually count he is a JAG.

I've been rooting for K-Pass all last season and this season. I actually really like the guy from a raw talent perspective.

My point is to say that I don't know how realistic it is to say that we couldn't have still gotten him in the 3rd, especially with the trade up. He wasn't seen by many as a 2nd round talent at the time.

That said, Mecca's point is fair - his development curve to this point has been pretty much flat. I'd say that's not entirely his fault (afterall, he was buried behind a truly shitty player in Breeland Speaks. Who is shitty. And a bad pick), but it's the reality of the thing.

I don't hate Kpass, but when you see some of the guys who went after him and how long he's been in the league, that pick to this point is not good.

And suddenly Damien Williams looked every bit as dynamic as Hunt did last year, no? Not as powerful, but more explosive. And explosion was ALWAYS what I said Hunt lacked. I still think that's a viable concern that could surface away from Reid's system.

Meanwhile we picked up a dude for at/near the veterans minimum last year and made him just as productive as Hunt.

I reiterate - it's your strange need to pump yourself off over this every few months that I find completely bizarre.

But really, to bring it full circle, Breeland Speaks sucks.

What a stupid thing to say

Yep a lot like Justin Houston always out of shape coming to camp after getting payed. Except Speaks does give all and doesnt quit on plays. I could never say the same about Houston. People loved Houston but hate Speaks CP:rolleyes:

Lol ok dude, like I said, I’m just busting your balls.

And you’re probably right about Speaks, if we’ve ever had a draft pick in Reid’s tenure that I would be willing to give up on after one year, it would be Speaks. I’ve said it many times, but the pick should’ve been Jessie Bates.

Oh believe me, I've posted much, MUCH dumber stuff than this. I suppose Kaep is just too toxic, and he did receive a collusion settlement (along with Ed Reed) from the NFL back in February. So he's pretty much black balled by the league. I'm just saying a guy who's 31 years old, mobile, has 2 1/2 times more TDs than picks, and has experience playing in a super bowl might be a better backup than Matt Moore, who's never won shit. But that's just me. I've underestimated his level of toxicity as people hate him worse for kneeling than a guy who destroyed dogs (Michael Vick.) That's fine. Lets just hope it doesn't come down to us having to play a second string QB this year.

Chiefs sign quarterback Matt Moore.

https://arrowheadaddict.com/2019/08/...-henne-injury/

He would be a better fit for Indy IMO but nobody is going to sign that piece of shit.

Breaking news

Again? Is he this seasons CJ Spiller?

Aside from all of the political stuff, he would NEVER play for the type of pay we'd offer.

Sorry, I just heard it on the radio. I went back 5 pages and didn't see it discussed yet, because I didn't go back 8 pages. Found it now.

O.city needs to make a post - that will unite DJ and staylor.

Me and DJ are always cool. To be honest, he’s one of my favorite posters and one of the few who I have conversations in PM’s with. Every now and then we’ll argue, but we’re always good after.

Chad Henne, Matt Moore....who cares? If we have to turn to either of them, our season has gone tits-up already. I would have preferred Henne as he continues to impart some knowledge to Mahomes, but that's less valuable now than it was a year ago.

As for Speaks, I have zero confidence that he'll get himself into playing shape after this injury. He wasn't ready for training camp and he won't be ready after convalescing for 3 months.

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Best take I've seen on signing Moore:

In the midnight hour, the Chiefs sign Matt Moore, Moore, Moore

KPass is better than Speaks now anyway. He appears to be on the way to becoming solid depth with big upside.

*against 2nd and 3rd string quality OL

I reserve judgement until I see him with the 1s

Veach is recruiting him as a scout.

Will he retire?

That is a bad memory.

Neither one of these injuries are a big deal. If Henne had to play for real then we would be screwed anyway.

I’ve wondered that since the day they drafted him.

nothing of value is lost

My understanding is that it depends on the type of repair. If they clip the tear you can get back pretty quickly, 3 - 4 weeks. If they stitch it, it's usually about 6 weeks to be cleared

Agreed

So do they look for some DL help if speaks goes on IR?

Absolutely

Or.. *gulp* day-to-day, even...

No way.

Just Keep Hamilton/Ivey

You mean Eric Reid.

Ed Reed is a first ballot HOFer.

Who are you looking to trade for this time?

Of course, that's why i said he was depth with potential.

With other brilliance, such as "trade a 6th for Lesean Mccoy" and "trade Henne for a 3rd rounder", I cant wait to see whats next.

Lol I don’t think O.City believed we could get a 3rd for Henne

I’m kind of happy that KPass is going to get Speaks’ snaps now.

I'll have to look around

I was thinking more so, grab someone that gets cut though.

I say a lot of dumb shit, so it's hard to keep up with everything, but i don't think I ever went with "Henne for a 3rd".

I'd def trade something for Shady though.

Why would they? They are like 10 deep at the position

Clark, Jones, Okafor, Ogbah, Nnadi, Saunders, KPass...after that who am i missing?

YES!

YES YES YES

Kpass should be on the field in every third down passing situation.

I would add Xavier Williams, Justin Hamilton, Jeremiah Attaochu, and Joey Ivie to the mix.

I wonder if they could get Tamba Hali to come in and work with KPass on his pass rush chops? They seem like similar body types. Hali could maybe teach him up some.

Heh, I am sensing a commonality in your posts in this thread. ROFL

Kpass is a better fit as a 4-3 DE than a 3-4 OLB. He's pretty athletic for his size and can attack the gaps.

William's and Hamilton

Woof.

DL is your deepest position probably. Just roll with what you’ve got.

Clark, Okafor, Ogbah, KPass at DE.
Jones, Nnadi, Williams, Saunders, Hamilton or Ivey inside.

That’s not what brought him back. It was the chance to see Patrick Mahomes’ dick in the shower!

Tamba is ****ing crazy. I'd like to keep him as far a way from the team as possible.

so Speaks will be fatter and slower..didnt think it was possible

He may be ****ing crazy, but he also had 89 career sacks and went to five pro bowls. If that's crazy, i'll take it.

And even that, I get the feeling that he wants to be a starter. Well, it definitely not happening in KC since we already have a generational QB.

No GM or coach (political stuff or not) will hand a starting job to a guy who has been out of football for quite some time. That's more than likely a career ender than not.

I always liked Moore. Good signing!

I feel very badly for Kemp. ACL, MCL and meniscus.

That’s going to be a bitch of a rehab. He will never be as good athletically as he was 2 weeks ago.

I'd love to see Tamba teaching these kids some tricks.

I remember him giving Bosa pointers after a game a few years ago. That was classy as hell.

Not a bad idea. Bring in DJ too.......:thumb: