Slow down, give things some time, ok?

Browns looked solid today

To be fair he’s not doing coke in front of tmz.

Gotta give Baker and his teammates credit today. They kicked the crap out of the Ravens in Baltimore. Serious wakeup call for Harbaugh's squad after the media has been giving them so much praise the last few weeks. Browns needed a big win like that and now we'll see if they can turn that into real momentum.

Ravens had their Superbowl last week and were flat.

Ravens D isn’t nearly as good as last season.

At least not yet. Something if off there.

They looked bad early last season too. Andy Dalton torched them for about 4 TD and 0 INT very early in the season. Ravens got much better as the season went along.

I sense a new Deberg thread in the coming weeks...

"Should the Chiefs have traded Patrick Mahomes for Baker Mayfield?"

Kitchens had his head screwed on straight for once. They ran the offense through chubb. And had a ton of designed quick plays for baker to get rid of the ball quickly. I still don't think Mayfield has proven he can go through progressions. Today he managed a good offensive gameplan.

I’ve got something a little better planned soon.

This is why we can't be friends. :)

Chubb is a great talent. He seems to be back to 100% after shredding his knee back in college.

Baker's still butthurt, by the way. In the presser he was like "I just hope everyone keeps the same energy. They threw us in the trash after last week.. we won't forget it."

Looking forward to it!

Felt good in mid 2000s when we blitzed yall in football and basketball on our way to National Titles. Florida Gator fan btw.

**** this little punk. That was my take from day 1 and will continue to be my take. I understand the need to promote your product but putting this little shit in the same zip code as Mahomes was a ****ing joke to begin with and I'm incredibly pleased to watch this play out just like I ****ing knew it would.

And who the **** names their kid "Baker" anyway? Idiot parents, idiot child.

Tressell was a good football coach but was far too conservative. He was the Marty of college ball. Gators were pretty tough then.

I never put much stock in OSU Bball... If they get to the tourney and make some noise for a couple rounds, that's about all I hope for haha.

But hey, we kick ass at pistol shooting and fencing! lol.

Love how Mayfield shut so many up today.

Yeah, he’s great when the offense is based on the running game and not asking Baker to do too much.

Baker Mayfield has thrown for an otherworldly 59%, 4-6 TD-INT, 8.3 avg, has already been sacked 12 times, and has an astonishing 77.2 QBR.

MOAR BESTEST QB EVUR!!!

Probably time to admit, Baltimore isn't that good, there's a reason many picked them to finish 3rd in the division.

Their wins are against teams with no wins, Earl Thomas today pulled up and didn't chase Chubb and claimed he didn't want to pull a hamstring...yea that's smooth.

On a day of shocking upsets, this may have been the biggest. I’ll make a point to watch the replay on NFLN.

He has the killer instinct, he may be a punk but he's the next Tom Brady.

I think Baker Mayfield is average, but also said if he is able to start playing better consistently it won't really matter what anyone thinks. He played good yesterday with a great running game.

LMAO

Not really. He's still insecure and whiney.

I never said I thought he was BAD, but I don't think he's the toughest MFer in football like you seem to.

Love how Mayfield shut so many up today I mean sure had another great outing I mean derp.

Mayfield sucks.

Baker is who I said he was. Ubeja wrong once again.

Ubeja knows better than to put too much into any NFLers.......second season. Ok, rookie?

"Sometimes an asshole isn't a gritty leader with a killer instinct. Sometimes an asshole is just an asshole. Baker Mayfield is just an asshole."

-Sigmund Freud

I didn't watch the game, but... is CLE having issues because of Mayfield? Or is CLE just finding a way to be CLE?

I was never a fan of Baker and last year, he made the naysayers look dumb. Do you guys think the first 5 weeks are a fluke or was 2018 a fluke? The talent in CLE is so much better than it has been in years.

Yes to both

Interesting... I didn't like him coming out of OU, thought he was an incredible douche. Then, he plays well and is the new darling of the NFL. I don't really dislike him or the team - interesting to see the fall back to earth happen so quickly.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...s-pregame-snub

This article is a glorious read for anyone who hates mayfield.

Good grief. He needs to grow up. That’s high school level BS behavior

I believe someone in this thread said his stupid antics would eventually be his demise and inspire teams who arent normally Clevelands rivals to circle them on the calendar, and it looks like that is coming true.

Combo of a lot of things. The offense needs to run through Chubb, not Mayfield, and the OL can't run block. Mayfield is a one read qb and defenses have learned to contain him or create pressure, take away his primary read, and disguise his coverages. And kitchens has no idea what he's doing, so there's that.

Baker can still be OK if Kitchens can design an offense that gives him room to improvise. He's slippery outside of the pocket and solid throwing on the run. But kitchens is punching way above his weight so that won't happen.

There’s a reason I call him “mini Leaf”. I’m not going to be surprised at all if he’s out of the league in a few years. Niners totally punked him on and off the field yesterday.

Not surprising given his antics in college, that they would still continue in the NFL. I loved the reference regarding Mahomes. "He's the MVP and could do that, but wouldn't because he respects the game"

The whole league respects Pat because he’s a classy guy that treats people with respect. Mayfield is galaxies away from that.

Trying to find Nick Bosa's post game interview. It was pretty funny.

ROFL

As an OU fan the guy just isnt an NFL QB. He has a Nick Foles type year and will never come close to that again. Those of you riding Dorsey's dick can remember that pick.

Enjoy Lincoln Riley while you can. Entire league is trying to get tat guy to be their coach.

The browns had to take a qb and they didn't have great options. I don't think it was a bad pick. And with better coaching he may become an adequate, not great, qb. Maybe they could have taken Josh allen but I'm not necessarily sold on him either.

and then came this......:D

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I saw that it was pretty funny but these college grievances I could give 2 shits about. Your pro's now!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;I don&#39;t usually talk, but this game (Baker Mayfield) had it coming.&quot;<br><br>49ers DE Nick Bosa explains the trash talk he directed at the Browns&#39; QB all night.<a href="https://t.co/CnNDLTtJSI">https://t.co/CnNDLTtJSI</a> <a href="https://t.co/vCTgdolHXp">pic.twitter.com/vCTgdolHXp</a></p>&mdash; CBS Sports HQ (@CBSSportsHQ) <a href="https://twitter.com/CBSSportsHQ/status/1181436626637086720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 8, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I understand your reasoning...
But Bosa used the college days with Mayfield to motivate him during the game, it worked obviously.

Ha. I don't think you appreciate the brilliance of bosas troll job. Keep in mind that baker plays in Ohio. It threw browns fans for a complete loop. He gave bakers own fans an opoortunity to troll their own player.

I saw Sherman gave some props to Mahomes saying if he didn’t shake hands it would be one thing since he’s the MVP but that he would never not shake hands because he respects the game.

FYP

We'll see. The NFL isn't for everyone and a different animal.

Yes there has been. See Ryan Leaf and Todd Marinovich.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WHAT IS SHERM TALKING ABOUT HE LITERALLY SHOOK BAKER&#39;S HAND <br><br>BAKER SHOOK EVERYONE&#39;S HAND <a href="https://t.co/Vl5AjYt5Jv">pic.twitter.com/Vl5AjYt5Jv</a></p>&mdash; Cappin America (@FlammyMarciano) <a href="https://twitter.com/FlammyMarciano/status/1181617718753026048?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 8, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Will Sherman apologize?

This was Sherman's exact quote:

Sherman is a liar. Doesn’t surprise me

Sherman can lie, but everyone instantly believed it to be true because Baker is a grade A douchebag that you just want to hate.

I'm not sure that they did. But baker was clearly friendly with his teammates and didn't look like he was trying to snub anyone. I think Sherman was being dramatic as he's known to be.

Looks like Baker tried to give the first guy a "nah" then gave in.

Either way, **** both those drama clowns.

Chiefs game sucked on Sunday, but it was pretty good to see Baker crash and burn in epic fashion on Monday night.

yes it was...

Indeed it was.

Watching that Oklahoma vs Georgia game. Mayfield is killing it, he looks like somebody else. I wonder if he's just getting tired of the game already.

Sounds like a guy I want in my foxhole. One who - in his second season in the NFL - his biggest supporter Ubeja Vontrell is wondering if he's already grown tired of the game.

Sounds promising.

Sounds like a bullshit excuse for not being good.

He was extremely accurate in college. He was accurate last year. Somehow he just fell out of the groove. Is it because of coaching?

HE MIGHT BE A DOUCHE BUT BOY IF I WERE HIS TEAMMATE I'D LOVE TO HAVE A DOUCHE LIKE THAT LEAD ME THROUGH HELL ON THE WAY TO GRITTY AND DANGEROUS 8-7-1 SEASONS!!!!!!!!!!!111

BEHOLD-- THE KING OF THE QB CLASSES... THE GLORIOUS ALMIGHTY 2018 QB CLASS EVERYBODY FAWNED OVER

The reason the browns went qb is kind of interesting. I said way back then that the browns had no choice but to go qb. All browns fans needed was stability. Baker will probably finish this season. Here's something crazy. If baker finishes the season, he will become the first browns qb all century to play all 16 games. Of baker, darnold, Allen... As bad as baker has been, he still could end up the best of the group.

The Nick Bosa rallying cry was the motivator, thus the pregame handshake was the fabricated excuse for the rest of the 49ers.

Remember when Baker was going to be the 5 head to Mahomes Favre?

Yeah...

Hoo boy

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Baker Mayfield got into a back-and-forth with a reporter and walked out of his weekly press conference.<br><br>(via <a href="https://twitter.com/clevelanddotcom?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@clevelanddotcom</a>)<a href="https://t.co/erQ2DCCmFn">pic.twitter.com/erQ2DCCmFn</a></p>&mdash; NFL Update (@MySportsUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1189599779011125253?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 30, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Unstable mentally. Like Leaf

If he doesnt get an attitude check soon he will really join stadium maintenance sweeping up game crud instead of making commercials.

The guy is a d-bag extraordinaire.

Oof.

The reporter is a bigger d-bag though