Go home. You're a moron.

You make me horney when you get angry!!!

I'm not full of myself. Plenty of idiots that post here make the same proclamations every year, but now because it's Lord Veach you can't have that opinion? If it was King Carl making that pick would you still feel so giddy about it?

Yeah....Mathieu and Clark are going to keep him in line.

How many Super Bowls did Carl win?

lol. Keep going kid, its fine.

How many studs on this team did Veach draft?

Gay jr. Is a winner. We will be bringing it on defense.

Homophobes

You can keep saying he didn’t draft Mahomes all you want.

The fact is he’s the guy that pounded the table first and got everybody to buy in. He started the process of drafting him. This is a fact that has been confirmed by people at Texas Tech (or Mahomes people can’t remember) who have no reason to lie.

You refusing to give him credit for that is strange. Are you in competition with him or something? Do you want to prove every year that you’re smarter than the Chiefs GM? I’m not trying to be a dick, it just certainly comes off that way.

He’s drafted one so far today lmao

I like that this team values defensive players that are dogs with attitude.

Bring back Dorsey!

I MISS CRAL!!!!

Faster, leaner Michael Sam

His 136” broad jump is the best by a LB at the NFL Combine since at least 2000.

But he’s not a perfect prospect at 63!! There are question marks!!!

C’mon Crow, that’s only part of the job. And a part that he’s done just fine at given where they have picked in the draft.

The free agency moves he has made alone were Super Bowl winning moves.

Didn't peg you as a broad jump queen. :eek:

PLEASE TAKE UP A COLLECTION TO BUY ME A GAY JERSEY

Veach has had 2 drafts both of which were without a 1st.

How many All-Pros is he supposed to have already?

55 or he’s ****ing terrible!!!

19 posts of "I love the pick!"

and 1 post not liking the pick, hates the pick

"why don't you guys trust Veach?!?!"

lol, your post just screamed "omg there's someone that didn't agree with everyone else, OMG what do I do"

Isn't that socialism?

Yep keep bringing these dudes in! Reckless abandon!

Man I could have not said it any better. I LOVE this pick.

Veach last draft all the players started or played significant times on the field veach been doing great.

And you seem pretty upset that with my opinion about his opinion.

How’s that any different?

Crow does this ever year. There’s always a pick that he doesn’t agree with so it MUST be the dumbest pick ever.

Except most of us know a dumb pick when we see one. This wasn’t it.

Oh snap! :doh!:

I totally get Crows concerns about experience/production, the kids super raw and there’s no way around that... a boom or bust prospect

But with this coaching and how tight the culture is right now, that learning curve can be flattened quickly... you gotta swing for the fences sometimes, this club can get the best out of him

Based off his draft reaction and how he spoke in that quick 1 question interview I like this kid and his personality. Seems like a caring charismatic guy, plus he's a ****ing great LB which we needed terribly. Just so happy 1 of (maybe the 2 best ILB's was available for us at 63! Lets go I ****ing love Gay!

No, it's not. 🙄

First thing, you think John Dorsey didn't see Mahomes' talent? Seriously?
Don't get me wrong, Dorsey had flaws, but he brought alot of talent to this team. Kelce, Hill, Mahomes, Fisher, Jones, etc etc etc. He also brought a lot of talent to Cleveland in his short stint there.

I do not give Veach credit for Mahomes. Just because he was in the chain of command to the area scout doesn't mean I give him credit for it. The ultimate decision to pull that trigger was John Dorsey's. Dorsey will always get credit for that, always.

I liked Veach's draft last year in retrospect. Thornhill was a great value, Saunders proved to be a solid rotational piece as did Hardman. All we got from 2018 though was Nnadi, really. So, there's obviously proof he isn't perfect either.

You liked Gay coming into this, so obviously you're going to like the pick. I don't fault you or anyone else for seeing the positives in the kid. The athleticism is absolutely as good as it gets for a LB. But, he hardly has any collegiate experience or production, some of that his own doing. You question how smart the kid is and if he can learn the position based on that. Would I support the pick? Yes, I would. I just don't support it at 63. I think you're looking at a guy that's probably 2 years out from being an impactful player unless House can unleash some magic with him. Maybe he does, but I doubt it. It's not like we're a bunch of idiots looking at this and haven't seen this all go down before. There was a DE that Tampa took a handful of years ago who's name slips my mind right now that is a really similar comparison and he flamed out.

As for knowing more? No, I've never proclaimed to know more than NFL scouts. I put some level of faith into the process and system, but that doesn't mean I won't have my opinion. Same as you or anyone else. You talk all offseason about prospects you like and prospects you don't like. A bunch of people here do. Doesn't make any one of us more knowledgeable than the other or better than the NFL guys. But you know what, there's a good majority of us that would do pretty well winging it from the couch over some of the GMs in this league.

I'm willing to bet that if I put you, Rain Man, Pugs, Bosschief, SNR, The Franchise, Mecca, a couple others I'm forgetting at the moment, and myself in a room we could be a whole lot better at this than Bob in Houston and we don't have half the info that moron does.

The very fact that some ****ing pleabe on this board calls a person out as "not a fan" because of stating a strong opinion against this pick is ridiculous. I'm definitely a fan. I'm a guy that pounded the table all year long in 2017 for Mahomes and was ecstatic when it happened. And then, there have been guys I've pounded the table for and been dead ****ing wrong. Phillip Dorsett comes to mind. I thought he would be what Tyreek has come to be and he's a far cry from it. I'm wrong as much as the next guy, but I have my opinions and I'm entitled to speak them, and everyone here is welcome to rebut them. But to call me out as a fan? Give me a break.

Don’t know if anyone has noticed....

Our AFC competition is going to be Lamar Jackson and the Ravens for the foreseeable future...

Look at what the Ravens have done, and look at what we have done.

See any similarities?

Ravens Picks
Queen LB
Dobbins RB

Chiefs
Edwards-Helaire RB
Gay LB

These teams are so close..

93.9 PFF Coverage grade since 2017. First among NFL draft LBs

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When 19/20 posts love the pick, "why don't you guys trust Veach" seemed dumb, should have just responded directly to the one guy who didn't like the pick lol.

Please quote the post where someone said you aren’t a fan.

Lamar Jackson vs Gay will be really fun to watch.

But wait, I thought he is just a physical specimen and not an actual player!?

Yup...he will spy Lamar.

Yes but I want a GAY specimen. I’m begging you

He wasn’t the only person dude. Read the thread...

Nah, says Chris Meck, 4 large Tito's and sodas in. They're trying to beat us running the wishbone.

Holy shit.

Did not realize you were related to Dorsey.

Be contrarian all you like. God knows every year people line up to blow x or y guy just drafted who doesn't amount to shit, but you've literally put forth nil of an argument against drafting him beyond a gut reactionary viewpoint.

You gotta surpass the, "It's my party & I'll cry if I want to" litmus test at the very least.

Gay vs Alabama

When Gay is coming forward he can be a beast. As long as that is the plan he works.

Veach takes input from coaches..Spags wants him fine. As long as he is used this way people will be happy.

Shut up idiot

If you liked the Veach draft last year in retrospect why not give this one a chance before flipping out over it?

I'll tell you this: he's a lot more talented than any other ILB on this roster




He has one thing in common with Dorsey: neither is a GM employed by the NFL

Time to pop a Schmitts Gay.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...161cd3aec7.jpg

I’m friends with. a Mississippi State former player and his cousin coaches there. He said he’s a difference maker that’s aggressive, fast and will bring the fire! He’s been watching him since high school.

The game against Alabama in the OP has me fairly concerned.

- Lots of hunting for the play and abandoning his gaps.

- Isn’t around the ball nearly as much as he should be.

- seems to move with a purpose, but for the sake of appearing to move with a purpose.

Im a bit skeptical of his ability to read a play and react. Am I off base with this?

Another idiot that can't read. The average IQ of this place is about 10.

Watch us take a lineman

Well, that's the point. Gay should not be reading anything. As long as he is going in like a missile he's fine. Spags has a plan for him and as long as he is following that he will look great.

I'm giving House a chance to turn chicken shit into salad. I said I hoped for that in the original post. Veach definitely went BPA here, but it's Best Project Available. Staff has some work on their hands. DOD didn't pan out because he wasn't smart. This guy had issues with academic fraud and had a 14 Wonderlic. Not exactly a ringing endorsement is it? I have legitimate quarrels about trusting Veach on this one. I give Veach the benefit of the doubt far more often than I don't. Calling out one pick doesn't mean I don't think overall that Veach may have a good draft. I defended Helaire and I absolutely despise 1st round RB picks.

The problem I see, in that game, is he is going like a missile in the wrong direction most of the time.

One team has a Super Bowl MVP + regular season MVP QB who can run PLUS make all the throws, who is also a Super Bowl Champion.

One team has a regular season MVP running QB who can't read NFL defenses and hasn't won a single playoff game.

Not really close when it counts.

Here's a trend.

Start looking at absurd broad jumps as a way how Brett Veach looks at back 7 players, by the way.

Remember, Juan Thornhill last year tied the best broad jump by a safety at the NFL Combine in the last 20 years. And he definitely looked the part of a NFL player before the injury.

We both have homosexual LBs?

Honey Badger, Frank Clark and Willie Gay. That is three motors firing at once. God help the other AFC West QBs.

https://3sigmaathlete.com/sparq-rank...os-linebacker/

Willie Gay
SPARQ score is 149

Not in my opinion, but obviously I'm completely off my rocker for disliking the pick...

Then, of course, the thing CP never gives credit towards:
Wonderlic 10 - 6th percentile. Scores below this mark are generally considered illiterate.
Wonderlic 14 - 16th percentile. Willie Gay, Jr. who is expected to come in and immediately learn how to play the position at an NFL level, learn the defensive playbook, and start in 2020 because CP.
Wonderlic 22 - 51st percentile. Scores around this mark (20, commonly) are generally considered average intelligence.
Wonderlic 0-9 - CP's finest.

Nice to know Honey Badger wanted Gay phone number soon as he was drafted. Probably give him a talk keeping his head straight and just live up this dream.

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Ah, not to argue, but here's some Wonderlic facts for you:

Marcus Mariota's WL score: 33

Jameis Winston's score: 27

Peyton Manning, Drew Brees and Russell Wilson all scored . . . 28

Flacco? 27

Dan Marino? 15

Methinks the Wonderlic test ain't so wonderful at predicting anything about football success.

Just sayin'.

I love me some Gay, Willie... I love his SPARQ even more.

You would give a **** about PFF.

Reid:

“Spags loves Willie, he’s reckless like Tyrann and those guys”

kccrow Veach gives his coaches exactly what they want

When a guy knocks the shit out of you on a football field like Gay can, you don't care what his Wonderlic score was.

Exactly.

For those that don't know, a Wonderlic test is basically a SAT. May be showing my age here. Do they still have SATs? Whatever, it has absolutely nothing to do with football. It's 50 math and reading comprehension questions timed.

So apparently after they announced Willie, Tyrann texted Veach and said I want his number now. Dude is so excited. Veach said he will give him Tyranns number

I just hope he targets correctly.

Not trying to shit on the guy (because I have hardly any time to really dig too deep), but what little I saw showed some concerns for me.

I really hope I’m wrong in this.

kccrow is John Dorsey.

The only possible explanation

Heh

No he's not LMAO

Attention Chiefs Planet mods! Name change on Aisle 4!

Please change DJ's left nut to Gay's left nut

I will do anything for this to occur.

Including a name change to Willie's Hammock Parties.