Originally Posted by CarlosCarson88 (Post 15043904)

redskins is not racist. Indians referred to themselves as such.

Originally Posted by HayWire (Post 15044038)

Screw it. Since someone is always offended might as well go full generic for all sports. Kansas City Missourians, Miami Floridians, San Francisco Californians, etc

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 15043981)

I keep pondering names related to the pioneers on the Oregon trail, or the pony express. But there's really no catchy name with the pony express. Maybe we could be the Kansas City Conestogas or something.

But now that I think about it, settling the west probably isn't acceptable behavior these days.

Originally Posted by JohnnyV13 (Post 15043949)

The only acceptable name would be the Kansas City Social Justice Warriors.

We can convert the "Tomahawk Chop" to a celebration of beheading racists and sexists.

Originally Posted by cripple creek (Post 15044065)

anybody remember the old tribe posters of the probably 80s? the one I remember most clearly featured our defensive studs like DT, Ross and others. pretty sure the team had consulted with which ever tribe agreed to supply authentic regalia for the photo shoot

Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 15044020)

You claim to be so smart and then make comments like this.

Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 15044055)

F that. I'm from Iowa. Won't root for no God damn missourians.

Originally Posted by cripple creek (Post 15044065)

anybody remember the old tribe posters of the probably 80s? the one I remember most clearly featured our defensive studs like DT, Ross and others. pretty sure the team had consulted with which ever tribe agreed to supply authentic regalia for the photo shoot

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 15043981)

I keep pondering names related to the pioneers on the Oregon trail, or the pony express. But there's really no catchy name with the pony express. Maybe we could be the Kansas City Conestogas or something.

But now that I think about it, settling the west probably isn't acceptable behavior these days.

Originally Posted by CarlosCarson88 (Post 15043904)

redskins is not racist. Indians referred to themselves as such.

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 15043073)

I think the odds are low of a name change, but given the current state of affairs it's a non-zero possibility. And if we don't have input, the name will end up being some trite adjective in front of the word Hawks, which has happened with pretty much every other sports name change in America. Green Hawks, Fighting Hawks, Screeching Hawks, whatever. We don't want that.

I suspect that some members of Chiefs management read this site occasionally to get our takes on who should be starting at left guard or how they should handle a particular contract, so this is our chance to have input into the process. (Oh, and hi, Clark. Nice work last year, my friend. PM me about getting together for dinner next time you're in Denver.)

So we'll have a renaming tournament. In this thread, you may propose up to three names, and I'll structure everyone's suggestions into heats. Using the Chiefsplanet brain trust, we'll give Clark and his team valuable input into what the Chiefs should become if we eventually delete our homage to indigenous plains cultures.

Originally Posted by HayWire (Post 15044038)

Screw it. Since someone is always offended might as well go full generic for all sports. Kansas City Missourians, Miami Floridians, San Francisco Californians, etc

Originally Posted by Sorce (Post 15044647)

That won't work, Missouri is named after a tribe and we all know that is offensive.

Originally Posted by CarlosCarson88 (Post 15044080)

Lol, in a previous quote, I quoted an Indian who in fact did.

Originally Posted by Sorce (Post 15044689)

Kansas City X-Factors

Originally Posted by Chieftain (Post 15043101)

The word Chief is noble and has a respectful connotation. In this case, it is attributed to the elders of the native american communities. There is nothing racist, demeaning or pejorative in its definition. To argue otherwise is irrational.

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 15043090)

History is moving forward, my friend. If we don't move with it, we'll be left behind like an Australopithecus watching the Bering land bridge sink.

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 15044858)

Why are you wussing out to the Marxist Cancel Culture so easily ?? Let them take Clark to court and PROVE that the word "Chiefs" is derogatory to the native Americans. They will not be able to come up with anything derogatory I assure you.

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 15044858)

Why are you wussing out to the Marxist Cancel Culture so easily ?? Let them take Clark to court and PROVE that the word "Chiefs" is derogatory to the native Americans. They will not be able to come up with anything derogatory I assure you.

Originally Posted by CarlosCarson88 (Post 15043904)

redskins is not racist. Indians referred to themselves as such.

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 15044971)

And Black people call each other the "N" word all the time but I don't think a hockey team called the Nashville N******s would be a good idea. :doh!:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 15045016)

Hmm, interesting. This post doesn't jive with how I'd have assumed you'd feel about the situation.

For clarity, would you encourage a name change for the Redskins because its offensive?

Originally Posted by jallmon (Post 15044773)

The way I heard it was Lamar Hunt named them the Chiefs in honor of a KC politician known as the "Big Chief", for his help in getting the team moved from Dallas and established in KC.

Originally Posted by seclark (Post 15045126)

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Originally Posted by jallmon (Post 15044773)

The way I heard it was Lamar Hunt named them the Chiefs in honor of a KC politician known as the "Big Chief", for his help in getting the team moved from Dallas and established in KC.

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 15045261)

I've long heard this story as well, but I'll confess that I've always been a bit skeptical of it. We've had the arrowhead since Day One in KC.

The only way I'd believe it is if Bartle suggested it as an inside joke or something.

Originally Posted by Ebolapox (Post 15045271)

Eh, he was a big big deal in kc back in the day. He helped put together a group of influential businessmen in kc at the time to help attract the team (my great grandpa who ran the now gone Chevy plant was among them) and did a lot of great for Kansas City.

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 15045278)

Admittedly, I have never lived in the KC area. It always seemed to me like it was a great story to deflect criticism, but I'll defer to those of you who are more knowledgeable.

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 15044971)

And Black people call each other the "N" word all the time but I don't think a hockey team called the Nashville N******s would be a good idea. :doh!:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 15045057)

It's not for me to say. I'm not offended but I can sure see how if team was called the Yellowskins Asians would take offense.

So in the current environment, the pressure will be intense.

Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 15044977)

Kansas City United would fit since it covers two states.

Originally Posted by ReynardMuldrake (Post 15045447)

If I was rebranding, I would go with the KC Spirit. Team colors would be navy blue and gunmetal gray. Matte navy colored helmets. Team logo would be the B-2 bomber. Cheerleaders would wear blue berets. Our receiving corps would be called the air force. Fans would wave blue camo flags in the stadium. There are all sorts of things you could do with military motif. Having a passing attack like ours is just the perfect match for the bomber.

Originally Posted by srvy (Post 15045495)

This leaves the chop. This I wish would go I never partook because of its blatant ripoff of the Florida Seminole. it was never used at Municipal or early Arrowhead till the noles became a powerhouse. Then like the wave one day it appeared during the Peterson Shottenheimer regime and never died out. I hated it for its non-originality but didn't fault those who did. We are stuck with it now as how could you police that up in a crowd of 80,000.

Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 15045003)

The Chiefs name is a good one that I would like to keep it.

From the media stories that I have read, the main objections that Native Americans have would be with the tomahawk chop and with fans dressing in garish costumes.

I would agree with what TheMartyr wrote earlier.



I would also add a wall of honor inside the stadium that does a tribute to Chiefs or leaders from different tribal groups.

But bottom line, keep the name "Chiefs"

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15044488)

If Chiefs are offensive, then Kansas is offensive. Kansas comes from the Kansa Indians, which means "south wind people".

People named teams, cities, and states after them to commemorate them. Kind of like why we name schools, roads etc after famous people.

Originally Posted by vonBobo (Post 15045610)

"Commemorate", that's a load of white washing hypocritical horse shit.
The early pioneers and settlers simply adopted the established names that were already in use.
While "Chief" implies a certain amount of respect, I don't see much "commemorating". How many people In Arrowhead would know an actual Chief's name that wasn't in a disney or John Wayne movie?
European settlers did terrible things to the Native Americans and then left the remaining survivors with nothing. NAs see right through that hollow meaningless appropriation disguised as some sort of honor???

Originally Posted by vonBobo (Post 15045610)

"Commemorate", that's a load of white washing hypocritical horse shit.
The early pioneers and settlers simply adopted the established names that were already in use.
While "Chief" implies a certain amount of respect, I don't see much "commemorating". How many people In Arrowhead would know an actual Chief's name that wasn't in a disney or John Wayne movie?
European settlers did terrible things to the Native Americans and then left the remaining survivors with nothing. NAs see right through that hollow meaningless appropriation disguised as some sort of honor???

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 15045646)

As an update, I'll start this up as soon as I finish the interstate road trip tournament, which only has two polls left. I'll scan the thread to identify the serious nominations and we'll be off and running like Warpaint after a touchdown.*


* - Please do not envision Warpaint since our hypothetical scenario will result in Warpaint no longer existing.

Originally Posted by kc rush (Post 15045654)

SJWs will come after most teams for one reason or another. All I know is that as a celebration of all things LGTBQ, the Denver Broncos are safe.

Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 15045661)

I'm nominating Kansas City Cold Water Crayfish

If we are going to be ridiculous, we might as well go all out.

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 15045650)

Maybe we should tear down some statues glorifying Indians since many of them took up arms against the US. What do you think?

Originally Posted by OrtonsPiercedTaint (Post 15045778)

Cavemen/people would require little change. Missouri caves, arrowhead, drums, feathers, chopping up a mastadon after the kill. Just add loincloths for the cheerleaders.