Wasn’t bob mcnair the one that made racist comments? The McNairs may not be the most self aware

Something about how you can't let the inmates run the asylum

You know Elway is going to be calling. I would hate him in Denver.

With those weapons? That would suck.

It'd be NFC they wouldn't wanna see him more that once every 4 years.

Why do teams destroy their organizations for Patriots turds?

Vikings would be an interesting one. Clear upgrade over Cousins and some really nice weapons.

Would probably position them as the “next” team in the NFC North when Rodgers declines.

facing Mahomes and Herbert twice a year can’t be very appealing for him, though. Not that it matters necessarily.

I don't know how much it's about not being consulted as much as it is Watson hating bill Obrien and knowing that Caserio sets him up for the same bs.

Has a franchise QB in their prime ever been traded within the conference?

I mean just look at the last several big trades:

Ramsey
Clark
Ford
Hopkins
Diggs
Ngakoue
Buckner

Those kind of big trades are almost always made with teams outside of the conference.

I would see this becoming an NFC East bidding war. All four teams would want him, be instantly better, and also fear the other teams in the division getting him.

Dallas and Philly might actually make the most sense and be the only teams with the assets to pull this off as each could send a damaged yet somewhat proven high potential QB in return to soften the blow for the Texans.

When you say that which QB are you talking about from Philly?

McNabb went 10-4 in 2009, made the Pro Bowl, and was traded within the division.

I know guys are desperate to become head coaches in this league and all, but it's bad enough to land on a team with shitty owner and a ****stick power hungry Patriot douche in the shadows pulling the strings, all led at the top by another soon-to-be epic failure of a Patriot GM castoff. Now you have to go to that team while the franchise QB is ****ing pissed off and wants out of there, so you might have to lead that dysfunctional hell hole through a goddamn rebuild.

I know of only one man who is dumb enough and desperate enough to want a job like that

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They would have to dump Wentz I assume for salary cap purposes, which I think both sides could be okay with. Though at this point Wentz for Watson straight up wouldn’t do it. They would need to add in something, like a high first round pick which they happen to have. Seemingly the same situation with Dak.

Yea, but he looked done the next year, and Reid clearly knew it. He was also 34, so I wouldn’t say he was in his prime either.

Watson is almost 10 years younger. He could haunt the Texans in the AFC for a while. Huge difference.

Watson would bring in a haul of picks.

Yeah, but that's applying hindsight. Reid knew when to get rid of him, but his production still looked like that of a prime McNabb

I still don’t consider 34, especially 10 years ago, “prime” either way.

The point is it’s very unlikely the Texans trade a 25 year old top 5 QB inside the conference.

LMAO McNair is so ****ed. It's like if there was a power struggle between Pioli and Mahomes. Who you siding with ROFL

Sounds like the power struggle is directly between McNair and Watson.

I wouldn't say it's a power struggle, more like one of them is trapped in a burning building, and the other keeps trying to put the fire out with gasoline.

McNair is just doing his best Woody Johnson and Martha Ford impersonations.

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He's probably pissed at McNair for lying to him about having input in who the next GM and HC will be, but I'd put good money down that the real disdain is towards Easterby.

Bledsoe is another example. Traded within the division at 30. There was serious debate over whether that was a wise move at the time, especially after NE missed the playoffs. Right in hindsight, but Brady was a game manager at the time.

The Vikes can't do anything with Cousins until after next season. He's got a $45M dead cap number.

If you're McNair and you've got at least 5 or 6 brain cells somewhere in that noggin of yours, you'd choose keeping Deshaun Watson on the team over Jack ****ing Easterby, right?

But that's apparently not what's going to happen. He's actually going to keep that goddamn snake over his franchise QB.

Unbelievable.

I know KC's front office structure doesn't operate the same way, but if I were Clark and I found out somebody like Mark Donovan so much as told a bad joke to Mahomes, I'd want his ass fired immediately.

Albert Breer of SI.com supplies another reason for Watson’s consternation. Per Breer, Watson advocated for the Texans to hire Chiefs offensive coordinator Eric Bieniemy. The Texans, however, became the only team with a vacancy to not even interview Bieniemy.

Breer explains that Mahomes “put in a strong word” for Bieniemy, which prompted Watson to push for Bieniemy. The Texans, who had said they’d consult with Watson, ignored Watson’s suggestion. And that undoubtedly has contributed to the consternation and frustration that Watson is currently feeling.

I would hope that Bienemy would have more sense than to go to the only organization in sports currently being run like a death cult.

Watson has a no trade clause so he can pick where he wants to go. My hope is that he's so disgusted with this patriot way tunnel vision bullshit that he'll stop a bellichick solid and avoid new England like the plague.

Would love to see him in the nfc. Da bears and sf would be great overnight. Sf would have way better cap flexibility to pull it off.

Exactly.

Jack Easterby is the Joel Osteen of football.

Cutler was AWFUL in the redzone, I understood completely why he traded that guy. I was hoping Denver would keep him. That might have been the only smart move he made, haha

Caserio currently studying NFL contract language to force tithes to Easterby.

Yep.

ROFL

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LMAOROFLLMAOROFLLMAO Worst job confirmed. Matt Eberflus won't even accept an interview request for the job. He'd rather spend his time interviewing with the Jets.

Inspirational

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This guy had the power to hand-pick Houston&#39;s general manager instead of Deshaun Watson. <a href="https://t.co/vERyorb6nN">pic.twitter.com/vERyorb6nN</a></p>&mdash; Rivers McCown (@riversmccown) <a href="https://twitter.com/riversmccown/status/1347367860029566977?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Crucifixion is a the "greatest game ever played".

:rolleyes:

JC competed for 6 hours?

Holy ****.

Just holy ****.

That. ....

Holy ****.

NFL scouting report, linebacker: Strengths: competes like Jesus Christ on the cross. Weaknesses: has the lateral movement of Jesus Christ on the cross.

From the sounds of things I doubt he would block a trade anywhere.

The team that could trade for him rather easily is Miami. Not only could they send Tua back to Houston, but hell they have 3rd and 18th picks in round one this year.

Woah. You really nailed that one down.

As good as Watson is they are 4-12 with him under center this year. It's def not all his fault but he plays a big part in that.

If they can get a Herschel Walker type trade for him it has to be considered.

Good job counseling Jovan, ****face.

I see Jesus as more of a punter.

Yep.

Fraud.

Wonder if he's emulating Piolis manager style. Would make even more sense why most in the organization despise him.

The vision of Scott Pioli

ROFL

Well, he's sold himself as a man of faith but lied about previous employment to get ahead. He's obviously more about the Patriot Way than the Way, the Truth, and the Life.

They’re not trading him and if they did, it wouldn’t be to an afc team.

Jesus Christ.

Imagine if the Chiefs replaced Pioli with another AIDS-infested Patriots-Way piece of shit?

I would have renounced my fandom.

Lawrence or Watson

I'd have been all the way out. Like never again out.

If he didn't even courtesy interview bieniemy or Saleh then it's obvious. These tunnel vision shitbags will barely consider anyone outside the tree.

Darkhorse team IMO: the Panthers

They need a QB bc Teddy is average. They’ve got the 8th pick too. 8th pick+Teddy+2022 1st+another pick (3rd?)

Possibly. But if you're deshaun do you bounce to another bellichick regime? Flores and grier seem like less of a stooge but hes still under the same tree that bit him twice.

They are not trading Watson. No chance in hell. It would be an act of lunacy to do so. Watson is hardly a terrible QB. I think he overrated but he isn't crap by any standard.

Involve the Jets and anything could happen :)

So, the Texans are a dumpster fire. What do you do when you're a dumpster fire? The answer, of course, is to throw gasoline into the fire.

Watson was pissed that they traded away a star receiver, so they promised to consult with him before making further moves.

The Texans hired a new GM without consulting Watson. Watson is pissed.

Watson wants Bienemy interviewed for the head coaching job.

The Texans refuse even to interview Bienemy. In a situation where the Texans are required by league rules to interview minorities for the position, they refused to interview a well-qualified minority, that is the #1 choice of the star QB, for the position.

So a team that is being managed so poorly that they are falling apart faster than anyone could have imagined, is seemingly doing everything in their power to piss off the star QB. We should also recognize the additional highly volatile angle that the QB is black and the team is refusing even to interview the black coach that said star QB would really like to be considered.

Yeah, I can't see any way that Watson will ever be on good terms with this team ever again. So many bridges have been burned at this point that the only thing left is to trade him and get whatever they can in return.

Well, the Texans do have what amounts to 7 years of control left on him if you include tags. Short of threatening to retire or just being a massive **** in general the most realistic solution is Watson has to suck it up. The trade speculation will be fun, though.

Darnold plus the #2 pick for Watson.

Yea he has no leverage unless he’s willing to be VERY difficult.

Like I said, I’d entertain this trade being done this year if the Texans had their #3 overall pick.

Without a franchise QB in place or in reach, the Texans aren’t going to trade Watson right now.

I don't think players HAVE to be involved but if you TELL them they should be involved, and then you don't involve them then it's a problem. Makes you wonder what was really said, though or if Watson is just being a baby.

I'll bet they could get a lot more than that and that is the saving grace for the Texans. Watson is a proven commodity. He is a very good QB and there isn't much risk for the team that gets him except for what they have to give up.

The ghost of Bud "Bat S**T Crazy" Adams strikes again in Houston.

Yeah. Players shouldn't have any say about the GM but that's irrelevant because it was promised to him. The fact they won't even interview Bieniemy despite Watson wanting him and fulfilling an obvious Rooney Rule interview is just another thumb to the eye.

If you're Jacksonville, do you trade the #1 to the Texans for Watson + more? I think I would.

I don't think either team makes that trade.

Basically Watson for Lawrence?

That’s an interesting debate.

Too much risk for each GM. They are looking out for their own best interests.

Watson is worth way more than just a single 1.1.

I should have said, if Watson wants out do you do that.

Only if they send David Johnsons corpse too.

He's easily worth 2 firsts.

I should not have attempted to put a valuation on Watson but I wonder if he wants out if Jacksonville would not be the landing spot. A 1.1 may be worth more than 2 mid-first round picks when it comes in a year that there's a clear #1 that's a QB IMO

What is the + more?

Texans make that trade and then squeeze the Jets for even more picks?

At some point they would need a QB but they could get a lot of draft capital.

Watson would probably fetch at least three firsts plus a mid round pick or two. Think about what Ramsey and Mack went for

I was wondering the same. I don't see why Jacksonville would do it. The jags would have to give up a cheap qb plus picks. The jags are too early in the rebuild. They will want picks and free agents to build around the qb. They lose both picks and cap space with this trade.

Now, if you're talking about the Jets or below who don't have a top notch qb prospect... For sure you strongly consider this trade.

Exactly.

In their situation, you take your chances with Lawrence on a rookie contract and try to build around him.

Watson needs to go to a contender, somebody where the QB is the missing piece.

If the Jags could do it with 1.1 plus a first next year they'd be insane not to do it. Watson, despite his salary, provides tremendous surplus value.

It's definitely an interesting idea. A rare possible win win.