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Dante84 02-17-2021 12:14 PM

I did 10 drafts, no trades, round 1 only.

There was a significant run on WR's and OT's in almost every one I did.

6 WR's, and 3-4 OT's.

htismaqe 02-17-2021 02:42 PM

I've been waiting for Jenkins to fall to 31, just to see how I could work him in. I ended up with probably my favorite mock to date.

31.
Teven Jenkins
OT Oklahoma State

63.
Amon-Ra St. Brown
WR USC

94.
Dayo Odeyingbo
EDGE Vanderbilt

136.
Divine Deablo
S Virginia Tech

144.
Dazz Newsome
WR North Carolina

176.
Trey Hill
OC Georgia

180.
Paris Ford
S Pitt

256.
Matt Bushman
TE BYU

Dante84 02-17-2021 02:52 PM

I don't have time, but it would be cool to run a round 1 mock 100 times and see which players are most likely to be there.

Of course, everything will change after FA and visits, so, probably not worth it just yet.

Direckshun 02-17-2021 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 15554233)
I don't have time, but it would be cool to run a round 1 mock 100 times and see which players are most likely to be there.

Of course, everything will change after FA and visits, so, probably not worth it just yet.

That's a fun project. Just do it 10 times once a day for 10 days.

Hell, I'll do it.

The Franchise 02-18-2021 12:32 PM

31.

Joseph Ossai
EDGE Texas
KC
68.

Dillon Radunz
OT North Dakota State
trade icon
KC
94.

Quinn Meinerz
OC Wisconsin-Whitewater
KC
108.

Marquez Stevenson
WR Houston
trade icon
KC
136.

Paulson Adebo
CB Stanford
KC
176.

Anthony Schwartz
WR Auburn
KC
180.

Robert Hainsey
OG Notre Dame
KC
256.

K.J. Britt
LB Auburn

Titty Meat 02-18-2021 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 15551513)
Shaun Wade at 136? I'm gonna stick up for my boy and say their rankings are ****ing whack.

6'1" 195 and runs a 4.41, physical. Can play man, play zone, gets home on blitzes, plays the run extremely well, and is an outstanding tackler. He has the versatility to play the slot. Etc. Ohio State CBs are well respected by the NFL. He needs some work in press and disrupting high-point catches, both coming from lack of game experience on the outside. He's been compared to Minkah Fitzpatrick who went at 11, and honestly, he might be best as a FS. As a corner, I don't think he lasts past the end of 2. If a team wants him as a FS and he shows willingness in interviews, he could go in the 1st.

No way, just no ****ing way, he goes in the late 4th.

I wasnt as impressed with Wade this year we he finally moved outside

Titty Meat 02-18-2021 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15553648)
Lots of trades, the OL value never got to me really in any round. Kind of sucked so I went BPA mostly instead.

32.
Rashod Bateman
WR Minnesota
trade icon

63.
Jabril Cox
LB LSU

95.
Dayo Odeyingbo
EDGE Vanderbilt
trade icon

128.
Shaun Wade
S Ohio State
trade icon

136.
David Moore
OG Grambling State

140.
Shaka Toney
EDGE Penn State
trade icon

156.
Drake Jackson
OC Kentucky
trade icon

176.
Malcolm Koonce
EDGE Buffalo

180.
Jack Anderson
OG Texas Tech

196.
Nick Eubanks
TE Michigan
trade icon

Bateman is a beast and I think Toney at 140 is a really nice pick. I guess my only question is if we do this what is our tackle situation?

Titty Meat 02-18-2021 08:07 PM

31.

Jaelan Phillips
EDGE,
63.

Dylan Moses
LB,
94.

Joe Tryon
EDGE,
136.

Thomas Graham Jr.
CB,
144.

Cade Johnson
WR,
176.

Shaka Toney
EDGE,
180.

Marquez Stevenson
WR,
217.

Simi Fehoko
WR,

The no offensive linemen draft lol

htismaqe 02-19-2021 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 15556651)
Bateman is a beast and I think Toney at 140 is a really nice pick. I guess my only question is if we do this what is our tackle situation?

Pray. :D

Dull Tools 02-19-2021 08:21 AM

Not seen a lot of love for Amari Rodgers on here.

Sounds like a decent prospect and was one of Clemson's main weapons last year.

Seems to be able to play in the slot but also open up big plays down field.

Direckshun 02-19-2021 08:22 AM

I ran 10 mocks this morning. Here's how frequently players were taken before our pick:

QB

Trevor Lawrence, Clemson 10 times out of 10 mocks
Zach Wilson, BYU 10/10
Justin Fields, Ohio State 10/10
Trey Lance, North Dakota State 10/10

no other QBs were taken in any mock

RB

Najee Harris, Alabama 10/10
Travis Etienne, Clemson 10/10
Javonte Williams 3/10

no other RBs were taken in any mock

WR

Ja'Marr Chase, LSU 10/10
DeVonta Smith, Alabama 10/10
Jaylen Waddle, Alabama 10/10
Terrance Marshall Jr., LSU 10/10
Rashod Bateman, Minnesota 10/10
Kadarius Toney, Florida 9/10
Rondale Moore, Purdue 1/10

no other WRs were taken in any mock

TE

Kyle Pitts, Florida 10/10
Pat Freiermuth, Penn State 2/10

no other TEs were taken in any mock

OT

Penei Sewell, Oregon 10/10
Rashawn Slater, Northwestern 10/10
Samuel Cosmi, Texas 10/10
Christian Darrisaw, Virginia Tech 10/10
Jaylen Mayfield, Michigan 10/10
Teven Jenkins, Oklahoma State 4/10

no other OTs were taken in any mock

IOL

Alijah Vera-Tucker, USC 8/10

no other IOLs were taken in any mock

IDL

Christian Barmore, Alabama 5/10

no other IDLs were taken in any mock

EDGE

Kwity Paye, Michigan 10/10
Joseph Ossai, Texas 9/10
Gregory Rousseau, Miami 7/10
Jaelan Phillips, Miami 6/10
Azeez Ojulari, Georgia 1/10

no other EDGEs were taken in any mock

LB

Micah Parsons, Penn State 10/10
Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah 10/10
Zaven Collins, Tulsa 8/10
Nick Bolton, Missouri 1/10

no other LBs were taken in any mock

CB

Patrick Surtain II, Alabama 10/10
Caleb Farley, Virginia Tech 10/10
Jaycee Horn, South Carolina 10/10
Asante Samuel Jr., Florida State 3/10
Eric Stokes, Georgia 1/10

S

no safeties were taken in any mock

htismaqe 02-19-2021 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dull Tools (Post 15557000)
Not seen a lot of love for Amari Rodgers on here.

Sounds like a decent prospect and was one of Clemson's main weapons last year.

Seems to be able to play in the slot but also open up big plays down field.

A lot of us have drafted Rodgers in our mocks. We talked about him quite a while ago now.

He's not in the mix for the first 2 or 3 picks so he's not going to get as much buzz.

htismaqe 02-19-2021 08:57 AM

Really looks like a guy like Teven Jenkins is in that sweet spot. For sure 1st round talent but falls enough to possibly be there.

Honestly Direckshun, that list isn't great for us. A lot of guys going before we pick almost every time.

Dull Tools 02-19-2021 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 15557002)
I ran 10 mocks this morning. Here's how frequently players were taken before our pick:


WR

Rondale Moore, Purdue 1/10


OT

Teven Jenkins, Oklahoma State 4/10

IOL

Alijah Vera-Tucker, USC 8/10

IDL

Christian Barmore, Alabama 5/10

EDGE

Gregory Rousseau, Miami 7/10
Jaelan Phillips, Miami 6/10
Azeez Ojulari, Georgia 1/10

Looks like it will be one of the above names. Wonder what order Veach has them on his board.

I wonder what we would have to do to trade up to around 40 to get 2 of the above OL and DL. The talent after this seems to drop off quite a bit.

Could then target a decent WR in round 4 which should be available.

KChiefs1 02-19-2021 11:01 AM

Ran a mock this morning:

KC
39. Jalen Mayfield
OT Michigan

KC
63. Amari Rodgers
WR Clemson

KC
80. Quinn Meinerz
OC Wisconsin-Whitewater

KC
97. Dayo Odeyingbo
EDGE Vanderbilt

2022 TB 5th round pick

_________________________________________________
2nd mock draft with more trades:

KC
40. Kadarius Toney
WR Florida

KC
63. Dillon Radunz
OT North Dakota State

KC
96. Dayo Odeyingbo
EDGE Vanderbilt

KC
144. Drake Jackson
OC Kentucky

2022 DEN 2nd round pick
2022 NE 5th round pick

KChiefs1 02-19-2021 11:25 AM

3rd mock draft with trades:

KC
45. Wyatt Davis
OG Ohio State

KC
69. Dillon Radunz
OT North Dakota State

KC
71. Amari Rodgers
WR Clemson

KC
144. Daelin Hayes
EDGE Notre Dame

2022 ATL 3rd round pick
2022 CIN 3rd round pick
2022 CIN 4th round pick
2022 DEN 5th round pick
2022 TB 7th round pick

KChiefs1 02-19-2021 11:57 AM

4th mock draft with trades:

KC
51. Carlos Basham Jr.
EDGE Wake Forest

KC
64. Dillon Radunz
OT North Dakota State

KC
74. Tylan Wallace
WR Oklahoma State

KC
136. Trey Hill
OC Georgia

KC
144. Victor Dimukeje
EDGE Duke

2022 WAS 2nd round pick
2022 PIT 5th round pick

Direckshun 02-19-2021 01:01 PM

I ran 10 more.

Here's how frequently players were taken before our pick:

QB

Trevor Lawrence, Clemson 20 times out of 20 mocks
Zach Wilson, BYU 20/20
Justin Fields, Ohio State 20/20
Trey Lance, North Dakota State 20/20

no other QBs were taken in any mock

RB

Najee Harris, Alabama 20/20
Travis Etienne, Clemson 19/20
Javonte Williams, North Carolina 6/20
Michael Carter, North Carolina 1/20

no other RBs were taken in any mock

WR

Ja'Marr Chase, LSU 20/20
DeVonta Smith, Alabama 20/20
Jaylen Waddle, Alabama 20/20
Terrance Marshall Jr., LSU 20/20
Rashod Bateman, Minnesota 18/20
Kadarius Toney, Florida 16/20
Rondale Moore, Purdue 2/20

no other WRs were taken in any mock

TE

Kyle Pitts, Florida 20/20
Pat Freiermuth, Penn State 3/20

no other TEs were taken in any mock

OT

Penei Sewell, Oregon 20/20
Rashawn Slater, Northwestern 20/20
Samuel Cosmi, Texas 20/20
Christian Darrisaw, Virginia Tech 20/20
Jaylen Mayfield, Michigan 19/20
Teven Jenkins, Oklahoma State 7/20

no other OTs were taken in any mock

IOL

Alijah Vera-Tucker, USC 18/20

no other IOLs were taken in any mock

IDL

Christian Barmore, Alabama 7/20

no other IDLs were taken in any mock

EDGE

Kwity Paye, Michigan 20/20
Joseph Ossai, Texas 19/20
Gregory Rousseau, Miami 17/20
Jaelan Phillips, Miami 12/20
Azeez Ojulari, Georgia 3/20

no other EDGEs were taken in any mock

LB

Micah Parsons, Penn State 20/20
Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah 19/20
Zaven Collins, Tulsa 15/20
Nick Bolton, Missouri 2/20

no other LBs were taken in any mock

CB

Patrick Surtain II, Alabama 20/20
Caleb Farley, Virginia Tech 20/20
Jaycee Horn, South Carolina 20/20
Asante Samuel Jr., Florida State 8/20
Eric Stokes, Georgia 1/20

S

Trevon Moehrig, TCU 1/20

no other safeties were taken in any mock

htismaqe 02-19-2021 01:12 PM

The one thing I will say about that QB list is the Mac Jones is always right there.

If the board falls according to those numbers and we're looking at Ojulari or Moore, I'd trade down for somebody that's looking for a QB.

The Franchise 02-19-2021 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15557391)
The one thing I will say about that QB list is the Mac Jones is always right there.

If the board falls according to those numbers and we're looking at Ojulari or Moore, I'd trade down for somebody that's looking for a QB.

Yeah, there has to be a team that’s going to want to trade up for him if he’s there.

RunKC 02-19-2021 05:05 PM

Not sure where he’ll go, but I love that Tremble kid from Norte Dame.

He’s a good blocker, solid receiver and has played all over the place.

Would love to get him in the 5th or 6th rd to be TE2.

staylor26 02-19-2021 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15557770)
Not sure where he’ll go, but I love that Tremble kid from Norte Dame.

He’s a good blocker, solid receiver and has played all over the place.

Would love to get him in the 5th or 6th rd to be TE2.

Shit we’d be lucky if he’s there in the 4th.

el borracho 02-19-2021 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 15557368)
I ran 10 more.
CB

Patrick Surtain II, Alabama 20/20
Caleb Farley, Virginia Tech 20/20
Jaycee Horn, South Carolina 20/20
Asante Samuel Jr., Florida State 8/20
Eric Stokes, Georgia 1/20

Looks like a good chance Stokes is there when we pick. How do we all feel about a 6'1" corner with 4.3 speed?

The Franchise 02-20-2021 11:12 AM

Took Marshall at 31. Phillips was still there in the 2nd. Traded a 4th round pick and a 3rd next year to move back up to take Hudson. Then traded down in the 4th with the Pats.

31.

Terrace Marshall Jr.
WR LSU
KC
63.

Jaelan Phillips
EDGE Miami (FL)
KC
95.

Quinn Meinerz
OC Wisconsin-Whitewater
trade icon
KC
99.

James Hudson
OT Cincinnati
trade icon
KC
144.

Paulson Adebo
CB Stanford
KC
176.

Tre McKitty
TE Georgia
KC
180.

Anthony Schwartz
WR Auburn
KC
197.

Paris Ford
S Pitt
trade icon
KC
241.

K.J. Britt
LB Auburn
trade icon

kccrow 02-20-2021 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 15558027)
Looks like a good chance Stokes is there when we pick. How do we all feel about a 6'1" corner with 4.3 speed?

Stokes in the 1st? I don't even know that he's the best CB on his own team.

el borracho 02-20-2021 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 15558464)
Stokes in the 1st? I don't even know that he's the best CB on his own team.

Seems to be a top 50 pick :shrug:

Who would you draft if you were targeting CB and everyone on Direkshun's list was gone?

kccrow 02-20-2021 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 15558515)
Seems to be a top 50 pick :shrug:

Who would you draft if you were targeting CB and everyone on Direkshun's list was gone?

Greg Newsome.

duncan_idaho 02-20-2021 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15558280)
Took Marshall at 31. Phillips was still there in the 2nd. Traded a 4th round pick and a 3rd next year to move back up to take Hudson. Then traded down in the 4th with the Pats.

31.

Terrace Marshall Jr.
WR LSU
KC
63.

Jaelan Phillips
EDGE Miami (FL)
KC
95.

Quinn Meinerz
OC Wisconsin-Whitewater
trade icon
KC
99.

James Hudson
OT Cincinnati
trade icon
KC
144.

Paulson Adebo
CB Stanford
KC
176.

Tre McKitty
TE Georgia
KC
180.

Anthony Schwartz
WR Auburn
KC
197.

Paris Ford
S Pitt
trade icon
KC
241.

K.J. Britt
LB Auburn
trade icon


That’s a dream draft.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Direckshun 02-20-2021 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 15558027)
Looks like a good chance Stokes is there when we pick. How do we all feel about a 6'1" corner with 4.3 speed?

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 15558464)
Stokes in the 1st? I don't even know that he's the best CB on his own team.

That speed is such a waste. It’s all long speed, he’s got no twitch. He will get destroyed in man.

He’s only really good for zone, which is a waste of 4.3 speed.

el borracho 02-21-2021 12:49 PM

Pick one:

Christian Barmore
Jaelan Phillips
Kadarius Toney

staylor26 02-21-2021 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 15559324)
Pick one:

Christian Barmore
Jaelan Phillips
Kadarius Toney

Phillips.

The Franchise 02-21-2021 01:44 PM

Easily Phillips. Even with his concussion history.

el borracho 02-21-2021 06:48 PM

Does your answer change if the choices are as follows:

Christian Barmore
Gregory Rousseau
Kadarius Toney

el borracho 02-21-2021 06:52 PM

Pick one:

Alijah Vera-Tucker
Jaelan Phillips
Rashod Bateman

duncan_idaho 02-21-2021 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 15559657)
Does your answer change if the choices are as follows:

Christian Barmore
Gregory Rousseau
Kadarius Toney


Rousseau and I race to the podium

Quote:

Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 15559660)
Pick one:

Alijah Vera-Tucker
Jaelan Phillips
Rashod Bateman


This one is really hard.

I probably go with Bateman in that one.

kccrow 02-21-2021 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 15559324)
Pick one:

Christian Barmore
Jaelan Phillips
Kadarius Toney

As much as I like Barmore, he's not needed as much as the others. Toney.


Quote:

Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 15559657)
Does your answer change if the choices are as follows:

Christian Barmore
Gregory Rousseau
Kadarius Toney

Rousseau, running.

Quote:

Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 15559660)
Pick one:

Alijah Vera-Tucker
Jaelan Phillips
Rashod Bateman

Bateman.

Stryker 02-21-2021 09:37 PM

Kadarius Toney

He is awesome! Shifty and looks like a Reid type of player.

The Franchise 02-21-2021 10:43 PM

Rousseau and Bateman.

staylor26 02-21-2021 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15559899)
Rousseau and Bateman.

This.

el borracho 02-21-2021 11:09 PM

Rousseau needs no explanation, but I am curious why everyone is so quick to name Bateman before Vera-Tucker? Positional value? Bigger gap between Bateman and remaining WRs compared to gap between Vera-Tucker and remaining OTs?

While I recognize the need for a WR (or two) to replace the WRs we expect to lose, it seems to me that our anemic Oline played a larger role in our recent Super Bowl loss.

Dull Tools 02-22-2021 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 15559917)
Rousseau needs no explanation, but I am curious why everyone is so quick to name Bateman before Vera-Tucker? Positional value? Bigger gap between Bateman and remaining WRs compared to gap between Vera-Tucker and remaining OTs?

While I recognize the need for a WR (or two) to replace the WRs we expect to lose, it seems to me that our anemic Oline played a larger role in our recent Super Bowl loss.

If the receivers had caught the ball it would have helped too,

duncan_idaho 02-22-2021 08:47 AM

I also don’t really consider Vera-Tucker a T.

He’s more of a LG who can play T in a pinch. Maybe if they’re confident in Fisher returning and doing so at 100 percent, that makes sense.

I also don’t think he makes it to KC at 31.

Dull Tools 02-22-2021 09:52 AM

Just did a draft with Pro Football Focus. Came out really well for us I think. They seem to not rate quite a few players who the rest of the big boards like.

31. Tevin Jenkins T
56. Ronnie Perkins Ed
94. Tylan Wallace WR
136. Nico Collins WR
144. Josh Myers C
180. Tony Poljan TE
240. Pooka Williams Jr RB
256. Tony Fields II LB

AJKCFAN 02-22-2021 11:32 AM

How is this one from this site?

31. Jaelen Phillips EDGE, Miami
63. Alex Leatherwood OT, Alabama
94. Landon Dickerson IOL, Alabama
136. Ihmir Smith-Marsette, WR, Iowa
144. Keith Traylor, Jr., CB - Washington
176. Josh Ball, OT - Marshall
180. Josh Imatorbhebhe, WR Illinois
217. Shaka Toney, EDGE - Penn State

htismaqe 02-22-2021 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 15559917)
Rousseau needs no explanation, but I am curious why everyone is so quick to name Bateman before Vera-Tucker? Positional value? Bigger gap between Bateman and remaining WRs compared to gap between Vera-Tucker and remaining OTs?

While I recognize the need for a WR (or two) to replace the WRs we expect to lose, it seems to me that our anemic Oline played a larger role in our recent Super Bowl loss.

As was said, Vera-Tucker is likely a guard in the NFL, not a tackle. Therefore the positional value just isn't there.

Direckshun 02-22-2021 12:54 PM

31.
Kansas City Chiefs
Teven Jenkins
OT, Oklahoma State
63.
Kansas City Chiefs
Carlos Basham Jr.
EDGE, Wake Forest
94.
Kansas City Chiefs
Aaron Banks
IOL, Notre Dame
136.
Kansas City Chiefs
Sage Surratt
WR, Wake Forest
144.
Kansas City Chiefs
James Wiggins
S, Cincinnati
176.
Kansas City Chiefs
Whop Philyor
WR, Indiana
180.
Kansas City Chiefs
Cole Van Lanen
OT, Wisconsin
252.
Kansas City Chiefs
Bryan Mills
CB, North Carolina Central

htismaqe 02-22-2021 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 15560318)
31.
Kansas City Chiefs
Teven Jenkins
OT, Oklahoma State
63.
Kansas City Chiefs
Carlos Basham Jr.
EDGE, Wake Forest
94.
Kansas City Chiefs
Aaron Banks
IOL, Notre Dame
136.
Kansas City Chiefs
Sage Surratt
WR, Wake Forest
144.
Kansas City Chiefs
James Wiggins
S, Cincinnati
176.
Kansas City Chiefs
Whop Philyor
WR, Indiana
180.
Kansas City Chiefs
Cole Van Lanen
OT, Wisconsin
252.
Kansas City Chiefs
Bryan Mills
CB, North Carolina Central

I like this one a lot.

Stryker 02-22-2021 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 15560318)
31.
Kansas City Chiefs
Teven Jenkins
OT, Oklahoma State
63.
Kansas City Chiefs
Carlos Basham Jr.
EDGE, Wake Forest
94.
Kansas City Chiefs
Aaron Banks
IOL, Notre Dame
136.
Kansas City Chiefs
Sage Surratt
WR, Wake Forest
144.
Kansas City Chiefs
James Wiggins
S, Cincinnati
176.
Kansas City Chiefs
Whop Philyor
WR, Indiana
180.
Kansas City Chiefs
Cole Van Lanen
OT, Wisconsin
252.
Kansas City Chiefs
Bryan Mills
CB, North Carolina Central


LOL! Sage can keep #14 and take Sammy's number!

KChiefs1 02-23-2021 10:54 AM

31. Kadarius Toney
WR Florida

63. Dillon Radunz
OT North Dakota State

94. Quinn Meinerz
OC Wisconsin-Whitewater

136. Chauncey Golston
EDGE Iowa

144. Aaron Banks
OG Notre Dame

KChiefs1 02-23-2021 11:05 AM

31. Jaelan Phillips
EDGE Miami (FL)

63. Dillon Radunz
OT North Dakota State

94. Quinn Meinerz
OC Wisconsin-Whitewater

136. Sage Surratt
WR Wake Forest

144. Chauncey Golston
EDGE Iowa

Dante84 02-23-2021 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 15560318)
31.
Kansas City Chiefs
Teven Jenkins
OT, Oklahoma State
63.
Kansas City Chiefs
Carlos Basham Jr.
EDGE, Wake Forest
94.
Kansas City Chiefs
Aaron Banks
IOL, Notre Dame
136.
Kansas City Chiefs
Sage Surratt
WR, Wake Forest
144.
Kansas City Chiefs
James Wiggins
S, Cincinnati
176.
Kansas City Chiefs
Whop Philyor
WR, Indiana
180.
Kansas City Chiefs
Cole Van Lanen
OT, Wisconsin
252.
Kansas City Chiefs
Bryan Mills
CB, North Carolina Central

D! Let's get 80 more first round simulations baby! I like-ah-da stats

Bowser 02-23-2021 05:21 PM

31. Zaven Collins - LB - Tulsa

63. Carlos Basham Jr. - EDGE - Wake Forest

94. Spencer Brown - OT - Northern Iowa

136. Seth Williams WR - Auburn

144. Ambry Thomas - CB - Michigan

176. Josh Imatorbhebhe - WR - Illinois

180. Christian Uphoff - S - Illinois State

252. Paul Grattan - IOL - UCLA

Bowser 02-23-2021 05:26 PM

We don't need a linebacker in the first, but Collins would be worth it if he fell (he's not going to). The rest of the draft I just let fly, and my picks were generally gone a pick or three before I was up, naturally.

The Franchise 02-23-2021 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 15561831)
31. Zaven Collins - LB - Tulsa

63. Carlos Basham Jr. - EDGE - Wake Forest

94. Spencer Brown - OT - Northern Iowa

136. Seth Williams WR - Auburn

144. Ambry Thomas - CB - Michigan

176. Josh Imatorbhebhe - WR - Illinois

180. Christian Uphoff - S - Illinois State

252. Paul Grattan - IOL - UCLA

That shit is hot garbage. Even the chicks at the penny slots would tell you that.

kccrow 02-23-2021 07:10 PM

Today's run:

31.

Kansas City Chiefs
Kadarius Toney
WR, Florida
63.

Kansas City Chiefs
Josh Myers
IOL, Ohio State
94.

Kansas City Chiefs
Hamsah Nasirildeen
S, Florida State
136.

Kansas City Chiefs
Daelin Hayes
EDGE, Notre Dame
144.

Kansas City Chiefs
Elerson Smith
EDGE, Northern Iowa
176.

Kansas City Chiefs
Bobby Brown III
IDL, Texas A&M
180.

Kansas City Chiefs
Jaylon Moore
OT, Western Michigan
252.

Kansas City Chiefs
Marquez Stevenson
WR, Houston

el borracho 02-23-2021 07:48 PM

Today's run (through four rounds):
31. Rousseau
64. Tuipulotu
93. Jabril Cox
136. Imatorbhebhe
144. Waler Little

How would we all feel about Marlon Tuipulotu at 64?

kccrow 02-23-2021 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 15561980)
Today's run (through four rounds):
31. Rousseau
64. Tuipulotu
93. Jabril Cox
136. Imatorbhebhe
144. Waler Little

How would we all feel about Marlon Tuipulotu at 64?

Not very good. I wouldn't mind him in the 3rd. 2nd is too rich for him IMO. His teammate, Jay Tufele would probably be a guy I'd consider in 2. Jaylen Twyman is a nice prospect that I might consider in 2. That said, I know there's the prospect of losing Nnadi in 2022 but I'm not sure taking a guy before round 3 is the best course.

If I were going to pound the table to do that, then I'd say you put guys like Barmore and Nixon on the table in round 1 if they are there.

duncan_idaho 02-23-2021 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 15561980)
Today's run (through four rounds):
31. Rousseau
64. Tuipulotu
93. Jabril Cox
136. Imatorbhebhe
144. Waler Little

How would we all feel about Marlon Tuipulotu at 64?


He’s a good player but I don’t see the fit in the second.

They’ve got two many positions where a second round pick can provide more immediate help to more needy positions of similar or higher value.

The Franchise 02-23-2021 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 15561948)
Today's run:

31.

Kansas City Chiefs
Kadarius Toney
WR, Florida
63.

Kansas City Chiefs
Josh Myers
IOL, Ohio State
94.

Kansas City Chiefs
Hamsah Nasirildeen
S, Florida State
136.

Kansas City Chiefs
Daelin Hayes
EDGE, Notre Dame
144.

Kansas City Chiefs
Elerson Smith
EDGE, Northern Iowa
176.

Kansas City Chiefs
Bobby Brown III
IDL, Texas A&M
180.

Kansas City Chiefs
Jaylon Moore
OT, Western Michigan
252.

Kansas City Chiefs
Marquez Stevenson
WR, Houston

Love the Hamsah and Hayes picks.

Bowser 02-23-2021 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15561843)
That shit is hot garbage. Even the chicks at the penny slots would tell you that.

LMAO

That's Matt Millen level bad if that batch of sludge is telling me it's bad

el borracho 02-24-2021 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 15562004)
Not very good. I wouldn't mind him in the 3rd. 2nd is too rich for him IMO. His teammate, Jay Tufele would probably be a guy I'd consider in 2. Jaylen Twyman is a nice prospect that I might consider in 2. That said, I know there's the prospect of losing Nnadi in 2022 but I'm not sure taking a guy before round 3 is the best course.

If I were going to pound the table to do that, then I'd say you put guys like Barmore and Nixon on the table in round 1 if they are there.

Well, I don't know enough about college players to pound the table for anybody, lol. But I have run the first two rounds 20 or 30 times on the site in the OP and usually there isn't any 1st round OL left. I think it was only one occasion where Vera-Tucker was still available. Most of the 1st round receivers are gone, as well, although Kadarius is sometimes available.

Phillips is often there and Rousseau has been there 2 or 3 times. Barmore is usually available and Nixon is always there. Pretty much whoever I don't take out of that bunch is drafted immediately after by Tampa.

Oddly, your guy Perkins is not highly regarded on this particular site. He is the 118th rated player and is always available to us with our 3rd round pick. Heh. We should be so lucky, huh?

kccrow 02-24-2021 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 15562141)
Well, I don't know enough about college players to pound the table for anybody, lol. But I have run the first two rounds 20 or 30 times on the site in the OP and usually there isn't any 1st round OL left. I think it was only one occasion where Vera-Tucker was still available. Most of the 1st round receivers are gone, as well, although Kadarius is sometimes available.

Phillips is often there and Rousseau has been there 2 or 3 times. Barmore is usually available and Nixon is always there. Pretty much whoever I don't take out of that bunch is drafted immediately after by Tampa.

Oddly, your guy Perkins is not highly regarded on this particular site. He is the 118th rated player and is always available to us with our 3rd round pick. Heh. We should be so lucky, huh?

I've never been one to like their player rankings much. They aren't overly accurate. They put out halfway decent player evals though, which makes the former quite odd. The best site used to be NFLDraftScout but they pretty well are done and just contribute to CBS, but CBS has done an awful job of having anything updated this year.

The Huddle Report is pretty consistent as far as accuracy goes and they don't seem to be much in love with Perkins yet either, although he has some traction with some national media types, much like Tryon. There's a lot of time yet and these boards will change immensely in the coming weeks.

There are some guys getting some pretty hard knocks that are potential 1st round talents. Joe Tryon, Walker Little, and Levi Onwuzurike are the 3 that immediately pop into my head due to no play in 2020. Perkins is getting slammed for that suspension.

When it comes to Tryon and Perkins specifically, I don't know how anyone can say with a straight face that they are worse players than guys like Jayson Oweh, Joseph Ossai, Carlos Basham, Patrick Jones, Quincy Roche, and Rashad Weaver. Their production and traits trump all of them, yet they are consistently ranked below those guys outside of guys like Jeremiah who get it. Oweh is the only one that has a case on the traits but lacks significantly on production. And speaking of Oweh, I'd shit if he ran a 4.33 as has been rumored. I'd expect a 4.53.

As for Christian Barmore, I don't see how he isn't a 1st round pick. 6'5" 310 and just put up 37 tackles, 9.5 for a loss, and 8 sacks in the SEC. He put up 10 tackles and 2 sacks against Notre Dame and Ohio State's offensive lines in the playoffs, probably the best combine units he faced all year. And he did it all, primarily, from the nose. The guy is a ****ing load. Not many guys bulldoze Trey Hill (Georgia) and he did. He's a better player in my opinion than Javon Kinlaw who went 14th overall last year. If he's there at 31, there are only a few players I'd take over him and they'd also have to fall. The thought of him next to Chris Jones... man... may as well line up two freight trains next to each other. The Chiefs need to generate more pressure from the front 4, that doesn't mean it has to be off the edge. Jones and Barmore would create major issues for teams.

Nixon is quite the beast himself. Disruptive DTs are premium players in the NFL. This is a kid that was a JUCO transfer, so maybe thats' why people aren't all over him? He actually turned down Alabama to play at Iowa. A team needing a 3-tech or 5-tech that can push the pocket will definitely consider him early. He doesn't have that raw anchor strength that Barmore has to play the 1, but he's a player.

I see Onwuzurike as a bit better anchor player than Nixon but not as disruptive, so it could be need-based determining where each goes. Onwuzurike probably fits a potential future need at 1t for the Chiefs better than Nixon does.

Direckshun 02-24-2021 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 15561948)
Today's run:

31.

Kansas City Chiefs
Kadarius Toney
WR, Florida
63.

Kansas City Chiefs
Josh Myers
IOL, Ohio State
94.

Kansas City Chiefs
Hamsah Nasirildeen
S, Florida State
136.

Kansas City Chiefs
Daelin Hayes
EDGE, Notre Dame
144.

Kansas City Chiefs
Elerson Smith
EDGE, Northern Iowa
176.

Kansas City Chiefs
Bobby Brown III
IDL, Texas A&M
180.

Kansas City Chiefs
Jaylon Moore
OT, Western Michigan
252.

Kansas City Chiefs
Marquez Stevenson
WR, Houston

What do you say to the criticism that Toney is essentially a souped-up Hardman?

mrdad45 02-24-2021 08:13 AM

Weapons, securing backups in key defensive positions, and depth for interior of offensive line.

31.

Kadarius Toney
WR,
63.

Ifeatu Melifonwu
CB,
94.

Patrick Jones II
EDGE,
136.

Tre' McKitty
TE,
144.

Shaka Toney
EDGE,
176.

Tommy Kraemer
IOL,
180.

Drake Jackson
IOL,
252.

Marquez Stevenson
WR,

MahomesMagic 02-24-2021 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 15562166)
What do you say to the criticism that Toney is essentially a souped-up Hardman?

He is nothing like Hardman.

Toney runs routes like an NFL veteran already. As a player comp I would compare him to a better version of Jamison Crowder for the Jets.

Guy will catch a zillion passes and get open quickly.


My WR top guys are:

1 Waddle
2 Chase
3 Smith
4 Bateman
5 Toney

wachashi 02-24-2021 09:52 AM

Traded up in the 3rd round for funsies and grabbed Josh Myers.

31. Jalen Mayfield - OT, Michigan

63. Trevon Moehrig - S, TCU

72. Josh Myers - IOL, Ohio State

136. Rashad Weaver - EDGE, Pittsburgh

176. Shakur Brown - CB, Michigan State

180. Drake Jackson - IOL, Kentucky

252. Tim Jones - WR, Southern Mississippi

MahomesMagic 02-24-2021 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wachashi (Post 15562270)
Traded up in the 3rd round for funsies and grabbed Josh Myers.

31. Jalen Mayfield - OT, Michigan

63. Trevon Moehrig - S, TCU

72. Josh Myers - IOL, Ohio State

136. Rashad Weaver - EDGE, Pittsburgh

176. Shakur Brown - CB, Michigan State

180. Drake Jackson - IOL, Kentucky

252. Tim Jones - WR, Southern Mississippi


I would love for Mayfield to drop to us..doubt it. And of course Moehrig is going high, he will be a 1st round player.

wachashi 02-24-2021 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 15562273)
I would love for Mayfield to drop to us..doubt it. And of course Moehrig is going high, he will be a 1st round player.

Agree. Daniel Jeremiah has Moehrig at 16 overall. TDN has him at 49 on their big board, which they recently updated I believe.

MahomesMagic 02-24-2021 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wachashi (Post 15562283)
Agree. Daniel Jeremiah has Moehrig at 16 overall. TDN has him at 49 on their big board, which they recently updated I believe.

Yes, it is fun to see what you get even knowing the rankings are wrong though!

:D

Dante84 02-24-2021 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 15562267)
He is nothing like Hardman.

Toney runs routes like an NFL veteran already. As a player comp I would compare him to a better version of Jamison Crowder for the Jets.

Guy will catch a zillion passes and get open quickly.


My WR top guys are:

1 Waddle
2 Chase
3 Smith
4 Bateman
5 Toney

I just can't quit Tylan Wallace. I think he's going to be so good. He's my #5/#6.

The Franchise 02-24-2021 06:42 PM

31.

Samuel Cosmi
OT Texas
KC
63.

Pat Freiermuth
TE Penn State
KC
94.

Dayo Odeyingbo
EDGE Vanderbilt
KC
136.

Aaron Banks
OG Notre Dame
KC
144.

Daelin Hayes
EDGE Notre Dame
KC
176.

Frank Darby
WR Arizona State
KC
180.

Anthony Schwartz
WR Auburn
KC
256.

Olaijah Griffin
CB USC

The Franchise 02-24-2021 06:45 PM

31.

Alijah Vera-Tucker
OT USC
KC
63.

Hamsah Nasirildeen
S Florida State
KC
94.

Joe Tryon
EDGE Washington
KC
136.

Shi Smith
WR South Carolina
KC
144.

Daelin Hayes
EDGE Notre Dame
KC
176.

Frank Darby
WR Arizona State
KC
180.

Jack Anderson
OG Texas Tech
KC
256.

Cole Van Lanen
OT Wisconsin

MahomesMagic 02-24-2021 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 15562376)
I just can't quit Tylan Wallace. I think he's going to be so good. He's my #5/#6.

Definitely talented. His injury history is concerning. ACL 2019, knee this year.

el borracho 02-24-2021 07:11 PM

... and they have adjusted their player rankings....

Jalen Mayfield is now always available to us in the 1st
Josh Myers is always there in the 2nd

Mayfield
Allegretti
Myers
LDT
??Schwartz??
and Niang either on-hand or replacing someone.


Problem solved, I think.

Chris Meck 02-24-2021 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 15562363)
Yes, it is fun to see what you get even knowing the rankings are wrong though!

:D

are they though? It's pretty tough to know this year. I have a feeling there are going to be guys taken all over the place and nobody's got it right.

The Franchise 02-24-2021 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 15563296)
... and they have adjusted their player rankings....

Jalen Mayfield is now always available to us in the 1st
Josh Myers is always there in the 2nd

Mayfield
Allegretti
Myers
LDT
??Schwartz??
and Niang either on-hand or replacing someone.


Problem solved, I think.

Mayfield isn’t a LT.

Chris Meck 02-24-2021 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15563333)
Mayfield isn’t a LT.

I've literally not seen a single reputable scouting report that says that.

Stryker 02-24-2021 08:08 PM

Hoping, at this point, we select Joe Tryon or Teven Jenkins with our 1st pick. Guess it comes down to what Veach pulls out of his hat.

My wish list!

Stryker 02-24-2021 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 15563346)
Hoping, at this point, we select Joe Tryon or Teven Jenkins with our 1st pick. Guess it comes down to what Veach pulls out of his hat.

My wish list!

Leaning towards Teven Jenkins. Crazy! Can't actually wait for the draft to just be over! So tired of speculations.

Chris Meck 02-24-2021 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 15563346)
Hoping, at this point, we select Joe Tryon or Teven Jenkins with our 1st pick. Guess it comes down to what Veach pulls out of his hat.

My wish list!

Tryon is available into the 3rd round on PFN and Draftnetwork mocks.

I don't think anyone really knows what's going to happen in this draft.


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