Selective discounting of stats on a regular basis makes you like like a ****ing idiot. So, running for a 120 yards on "meaningful carries" is not doing exactly what they should have? You were outgained more than that in total yards and only put up 220 on offense. You should have been blown off the field. The Ravens lost to their own stupidity, not to the Bills somehow being good at anything that game.

I know this game didn’t count according to Bills fans but I do find the stats interesting.

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They're EXACTLY like Patriot fans.

Nothing before week 10 matters.

Weather.

QB's non-throwing shoulder was hurt.

They've got a million excuses and exceptions when it comes to stats. They don't want to talk about anything in context, they want to reframe every argument to fit their agenda.

They claim they're here "just to talk football" when it's obvious that's not what they want at all.

We need to contain Allen to his right, and force him left. He is a much better playmaker, excellent in fact, when scrambling to his right, good, but much less effective to his left. His big plays tend to come when he is forced to his right outside the pocket. As I have said before, force him to his left like a Jr. High point guard...

Our DE's aren't great at pass rushing but they're pretty good at containment. That's what I'd do too.

I’m not this confident but glad he is...40pts is a tall order.

7:36 in, explains what Spags is going to do to Josh Allen on Sunday.

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Somebody needs to burn this dude's apartment.

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He’s reffing the Packers game. Patriots are 4-5 in games he reffed.

Nick Wright is awesome. Obviously he is a Chiefs fan but as a media personality he noticed how thin skinned the Buffalo fan base is and how easy it is to rile them up.

:thumb:

Trying to understand how people are saying Allen is equal or better than Mahomes.

I need the drugs they are on.

Look at them here, desperately seeking validation for their team.

I think we'll see who's the better QB on sunday

WATCH OUT THE BILLS ARE COMING!!!!
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I think every fan base wants validation but I think for KC fans when we have heard for the last two years how overrated we are or how there was a "blueprint" last year to stop us and then won the Superbowl over a "more balanced, more physical" 49ers team we now just roll our eyes because we get what is happening.

Telling people KC is actually great and will win is boring and doesn't generate discussion.

Not every fanbase trolls other teams' message boards though...

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The Allen/Mahomes comparisons are so funny. The guy has like two good games in his career and he's meant to be at Pat's level?

He was garbage at Wyoming and he's garbage now hiding behind a good oline and wrs. Comparing Allen to Mahomes is like comparing Analyze This to the Godfather

2 good games?? Um he had more TDs this year than Mahomes

I've asked two dozen times to all these Bills pukes running around:

What changed from the last matchup and how are the Bills going to adapt their gameplan to hide their deficiencies:
-who covers Hill / Kelce
-Do you play back in zone (like last time) or do you play up and blitz more?
-how are you going to generate pressure with just 4 consistently
-Receiver matchups: Obviously Diggs is great, but who else? a gimpy Beasley?
-Bills Running game v. our running D (weakness against weakness)

All I get are crickets.....and THE BILLS ARE A DIFFERENT TEAM!!!!!!

JFC

A ref shouldn’t skew the trend that much. That’s downright criminal.

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No kidding.

Dude can play. I want to see what he does during THE game on Sunday night, not the Saturday afternoon special.

All the chips are down, and you playing against the World Champs.

I know how our guys will react. How will theirs?

Meh. The tackle was awkward, but it's hard for me to say it was dirty.

She also rips people for not calling him Patrick.

If Henne has to play I think we still win. Also, go ahead and support Chad!!

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Mahomes’ foundation is selling those t-shirts, not Henne.

There did seem to be some pretty hard feelings during the 2 plays where Henne willed us to the AFCCG. After the 3rd down run Kelce and Hill are really heated with BJ Goodson. Kind of surprised a flag wasn't thrown when Goodson jammed his hand into Hills facemask.

Gut feeling says mahomes won’t play which will be disappointing. It’ll come down to the defense and Henne limiting his turnovers in order to win the game. Just hope chiefs keep it close and give themselves a chance

Wtf? ROFL

Same here. When we win on Sunday, Reid and Henne need a statue outside of Arrowhead

Um, no.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/playe...downs/dir/desc

If we play more like Indy did on defense where we play lots of no pressure/soft zone, Allen will rip us up.

We need to show pressure all the time at LOS, mix up coverages with man/zone, throw off his pre-snap read to make him process the field, throw in amoeba fronts to disguise who is coming. Either send extra or bail. Don't get caught in the middle sending 4, vanilla.

Beat the hell out of Buffalo's small WR's at LOS every down.

Don't blitz up the middle (Morse) but off the edges and from his right side to make him move left.

Make Josh Allen play QB, don't let Daboll play Madden with Allen. Pull out the cord and let Allen figure stuff out on his own past his 1st read.

Do stuff more like that (and Spags had this pretty well down last time) and Buffalo's offense will have another clunker.

And he played a game less.

Total TDs yes he did

Mahomes will 100% play on Sunday.

He didn’t sustain a concussion.

It's so weird to me. Honestly, you are on a Chiefs Fan message board....seeking to do what, exactly? Have legit football convo about the X's & O's of the game? Nah, you are here to get opposing fans to validate your team. It's that simple, and it's pathetically insecure, IMO.

Go to the Bills board.

They think that White can cover Hill.

They think they have a LB that can cover Kelce.

For some reason they think their DL can force Patrick to throw to the sidelines, where they think they can take advantage?

They think they can run against us.

They think our secondary is trash.

They are scared of CEH.

They think Andy's lying about Mahomes, and that he really does have a concussion. Many of them think Henne will start. That right there is hilarious.

If it were about legitimate football conversation, they'd actually...you know...entertain other viewpoints.

The rigidity of the arguments suggests they're not here for "discussion" at all.

It was DC bullshit. Right or wrong is irrelevant. Caught red handed is fake. Talk until the other person is to bored to press on

A couple of them weren't trolling. But some of the takes were just odd.

"We're hungrier."

Wtf does that mean? And how would you even know? How do you even evaluate how "hungry" one team is over another?

"We don't like to run."

BS. If they could run the ball effectively, they would, period. Like has nothing to do with it.

And so on. And then some of them call that kind of commentary "analysis."

Well, there's no way you can have a conversation about how "hungry" one team is over another, so . . . ?

It's football. There were probably a half dozen hits in that game all worse than that one. That's just a Mama Bear talking.

Fans can try all they want, but the team itself needs to earn validation.

Honestly, it's the ones that call us "arrogant" that got it started for me.

They come here telling us over and over how their team is this, and their QB is that, and all these stats and scores and everything and then think they can say "but the Chiefs probably win" and that makes US arrogant and them...what, "realistic?"

The passive-aggressive behavior is just ridiculous.

And that's a problem for these guys.

Deep down, they probably know that the Chiefs likely win this weekend, so they're grasping at straws now.

And quite frankly, why does ANY opposing fan give a shit what ChiefsPlanet thinks of their team? You want validation? Well, then you better hope your team wins on Sunday. That should be all the validation that is needed.

:bravo:

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Is there lots of Soy in Buffalo Wing sauce? That could explain it.

Bingo

Browns fans were far better at knowing exactly what their team was this season, being fully aware of weaknesses, and knowing their team is still at least a year away.

For the most part, they were here to basically see what we were saying and talk match ups.... and sure, there's always going to be some level of "I don't think you know how much so and so has improved" or whatever, but it also wasn't "Mayfield is basically Mahomes at this point" and trying to shove stats and narratives down our throats.

I miss Browns Week, they were cool.

I get it.

I don't really care if they view us as arrogant here in CP. They're over there upset that some of their posters that dropped in here this week got the CP hello ("drink anitfreeze!" etc.), and the usual CP-ese, and didn't get that most of that stuff is just tradition.

And if I'm going to be perfectly honest, there are times I purposefully post "arrogant" things. Sometimes because I'm hoping someone will call me out because I think it's funny, and sometimes just because I'm bored.

But they also don't get, understandably, just how bad the trolling in here was for the last two seasons. Every single week it was a new batch of trollsters in here yapping like chihuahuas in heat, and it got under our skin to a certain extent.

It's made some of a little defensive, i guess, and I get that.

They're basically virgins to being fans of a successful team. It's going to go to their heads a bit, and some are going to handle it poorly. i try to keep that in mind when they pop up.

But I got annoyed when one of them piped up with the whole "asterisk" thing. That was utter nonsense, and purposeful trolling.

But this morning I realized it's what we should expect. They're fans of a team that just this season has been really successful. Their first AFC-E title in thirty years? A real QB after the same period of time? Playing in their first AFCCG in about the same time?

They're extremely emotional (who wouldn't be with their team's history?), so they're kind of reaching for any argument to validate their team.

Look at this way.

How many of us went to Patriots forums in 2018 and proclaimed the stuff the Bills fans are spouting here? How many of us said upstart Mahomes was better than Tom Brady and posted mountains of stats to prove it? I mean a couple of them are posting dozens of posts a day. I certainly hope no CP'ers do that shit.

And you can't back that off by saying "but the Chiefs win 60% of the time". That's just disingenuous.

Sounds like a winning game plan.

WADR, nope, not touching the Bills board.

Of course they believe all those things, they’re trying to cling to any hope they can come up with now that it seems pretty reasonable to assume Mahomes plays. I know how this is going to end. With the Chiefs winning the game, going to the Super Bowl. Could dive into the details of it, sure, and I have in some recent posts.

I’m just uber confident in this one. I respect the Bills, they’re very good, and it wouldn’t shock me if they do make a Super Bowl in say the next 5 years. But this ain’t gonna be the one. The Chiefs are just now starting their run, really this past Sunday.

I do think as a group we're sometimes overly defensive or protective of what we're witnessing with this team... after all, we waited 50 years for it and the Browns or Bills aren't just going to come in and take it.

And that's where we see some of the posts where they speak really highly of Josh Allen and then qualify it with the 60% or whatever. I think some of the non-trolls are trying to express their excitement, yet at the same time stay realistic.

Had I gone to PatriotsPlanet in 2018, I wouldn't have shoved stats down their throats like the trolls here, but it might have been tough to convey the excitement of Mahomes and the fact that the Chiefs will always have a chance if he's healthy, without coming off like I was saying the Chiefs are here to dismantle your dynasty.

Never been to any opponents forum.

What’s the point?

My feeling as well.

BUF just doesn't quite have all the necessary horses yet. They're close, but not close enough. Yet. They need to pick up some pieces on defense, need a real running game, and a legit TE, at a minimum.

Boredom.

And curiosity. I like a lot of varying POV. Multiple angles.

Most of the time it's just for laughs, but every once in a while you can find an interesting point or perspective.

I don't post on them, btw. I don't even join. I just lurk around. Either to see what they're saying about the Chiefs if we're about to play them, or to see what they're saying about our next opponent, if they're in the same division or they just played our next opponent.

Yeah, I don't want to offend you or anything but what you describe is not the same. There's NO WAY these guys are making dozens of posts an hour - over a hundred a day - just because they're bored or looking for a solitary interesting post.

The volume of content suggests it's something else altogether.

Such an echo chamber of them not wanting Mahomes to play... They are calling BS on any "nerve" that could get pinched or anything other than a concussion that could have occured in the 1.5 seconds of the tackle. They obviously haven't even attempted to look at what folks are saying about a Brachial Stun, or Vasovagal Syncope... They are so hoping...

Fine with me, Mahomes was fine 5 minutes after this tackle with no risk of playing, however, it was hard to determine that on Sunday. I'm sure extra test were done over the past 24 hours on his neck area and he will pass everything concussion related and will light the Bills up on Sunday...

No, not at all. It appears that I have once again misunderstood the purpose of that other post. I thought he was asking me why I would check out another forum.

My bad.

I agree; a lot of these guys seem bent on stirring the pot, not actual conversation.

No, sorry, I don't think you misunderstood.

All I'm saying is that your reasons for visiting another forum (boredom) is NOT the same as these guys, as evidenced by the fact that you mostly lurk while they produce more posts than a half dozen CP regulars per hour.

:thumb:

ROFL:p

They're still over there on the BUFs forum thinking Andy is lying about Mahomes 'concussion.' It's now a conspiracy between Andy and the League, ffs!

LMAO

As ridiculous as it is, I find it equally laughable that they even want to play the Chiefs without Mahomes.

I’m sorry, but if you make the Super Bowl by beating the Chad Henne led Chiefs, it absolutely gets an * placed by it in my mind. If their fans want that, I guess that’s desperation for you.

To be fair, not all of them hope Patrick can't play, but there's more than a few.

They also seem to think that CEH isn't playing, so I guess they don't have access to up-to-date news on the Chiefs? And none of them have even heard of Sneed, which I guess isn't as surprising, but considering that Sneed has made a splash play in every game he's played (iirc), you'd think at least a couple of them would've heard of the guy.

McDermott has done a fantastic job with that franchise and as much as I hate the bald headed ****, Daboll has to get a ton of credit. I’m not sure I’ve seen an improvement as big as Josh Allen’s in such a small amount of time.

They really need a pass rusher and they also need another weapon for Allen, preferably a TE. I foresee them doubling up on weapons for the guy like many teams did in this years draft.

It will be a good game but I don’t think that Buffalo is there yet. Plus our coaches are money. When you’ve got the QB and the coaching advantage, nothing else really matters.

I see some guys posting, "that's a concussion and they are risking his long term health if he plays, but I hope he plays." There are a few that truly want him to play, but the vast majority think its a conspiracy if he does. Mahomes is playing, he didn't have a concussion and will light them up...

That's really interesting. And by interesting, i mean it's a hilarious combination of hopeful wishes.

White on Hill with no safety help? Good luck with that. Now, if they want to dedicate White and keep both safeties deep, yes, that would limit Hill's impact (though if White is chasing Hill all game, we'll see how his conditioning holds up).

The fact they think Matt Milano is going to stop Kelce this time is freaking hilarious.

I don't understand why they'd think their DL can force Mahomes to do ANYTHING. It isn't that good and couldn't do anything against the Chiefs with the scramble-drill OL in game one.

The Chiefs' secondary is consistently underrated. Lajerius Sneed is going to make as big an impact in this game as Milano returning for them, easily, and more so, IMO.

The only thing that's accurate is that they should be scared of Clyde.

for those interested in lurking on their conversation about Mahomes:

https://www.twobillsdrive.com/commun...-a-concussion/

I don't know if they think White can actually go 1v1 with Hill, but they seem to think White can hold his own vs. Hill, which is kind of hilarious all by itself.

Yeah, the Kelce thing is just delusional.

But this is a fanbase that was just here yesterday telling us that BUF was "hungrier than the Chiefs." As if you could know that, or that it would make any difference in the actual game.

They think they're more "battle-tested," (how?), and "grittier," (what?) than the Chiefs, and because of these heart-felt, but unquantifiable emotions, they're going to win.

Like any of that is going to make up for the cold, hard facts: they aren't good at stopping the run, and CEH is going to play. They can't cover Kelce. They can't cover Hill. And they can't stop Mahomes from doing Mahomes' things. They can't consistently generate a pass-rush with their DL. And we have the better defense.

They have a good team. But they're still a few pieces away.

Because we all run a 4.3 40, bench 500lbs, and have 12" cocks, thats why.

Another thing that Bufalo fans believe is that Indy and Baltimore have a far better defense than KC.

Before we rested our starters

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/sta...ate=2020-12-31

Baltimore 4th 20 points allowed per game
KC 6th 21.6 points allowed per game

Indy 12th 23.2 points per game

Oh and here's Buffalo

Buffalo 15th 23.3

Not only is is Buffalo the weakest defense left other than Green Bay, KC has the best scoring defense left in the entire playoffs. That's in addition to HOF coach, generational QB.

And it gets better..or worse, if you're from Buffalo.

KC scheme is deadlier than Indy or Baltimore against their offense because someone in our film room KNOWS all of Allen's weaknesses and will exploit them better than Baltimore or Indy with their soft vanilla zone/no pressure crap. Baltimore has better corners but they don't have safety like Mathieu or Chris Jones. Safety/Elite Pass Rush players more important in defending what Buffalo wants to do on offense.

Yeah. They are really close. They have a huge amount of cap space. Upgrade their running game and pass rush and 2021 may be a different story.

But for now? That matchup just isn't there.

And one thing that nobody has mentioned so far is the fact that KC is the team that has been there. I think that has to count for something. When we're talking about being hungry, I'm pretty sure that any team that has made it this far is about as hungry for a SB as you can be. But what happens when KC is up big in the 4th and Allen and the Bills have to start making plays to get back in the game? Or even if KC is down by a few points and Mahomes starts to really shred their defense, how do they react? The Chiefs have been there. I think we all know how they will react. But will the Bills stand strong? Or will they fold like a house of cards? :hmmm:

See also: San Francisco

Cough, Cough.

So 320 yards and 3 total TD is not a good game against a good Colts front 7. I know you in live in a Mahomes world now but wow.