I remember some straight BUSTS at WR, like Sly Morris and Jonathon Baldwin.

Apparently, someone named Anthony Hancock was drafted at 11 overall in 1982.

I'm not sweating it, Hardman has a very specific skill set that just happens to be the same one our WR1 has, he wont be on the field every single play. And if you expect him to be youre expecting him to have transformed into some one hes not. He will see more action but not every situation calls for two sub 4.3 guys. I do expect as the season goes on he will see the field more and more. But i dont expect to see much from him in preseason.

Gadget player…nothing more, nothing less.

He will be fine.

700 yards, 8 TDs this season.

Jet sweep ACE

He was not ready to catch that ball Saturday.

He has to get his head around faster.

We're going to have to go WR early in the 2022 draft. Hardman isn't ready for prime time. He can be a valuable player for us, but I don't see them giving him a second deal.

I think Hardman can still be a legit WR2. But he isn't what we are missing on this team. We need a A. Boldin type on the field with Reek.

Someone to take the top off, TK to handle the seam routes. And a possession WR to handle the slants/crossers.

IMHO

Other than speed, him and Hill have nothing alike.

It was a shitty pass. This was on Henne not Hardman.

He's no Dexter McCluster.

o:-)

Mahomes threw the pass. It hit Hardman IN THE HANDS.

Yeah. What the actual **** trying to blame that on the QB? Hardman just had another one of those lapses in concentration that are becoming all too common.

Hill does all the other things better though. And Mecoles not a great blocking guy at this point. So its a bit of a 1A and 1b as far as guys with speed to threaten. Theres not much need to show your hand on stuff like that in the preseason.

I was drunk when watching and only paying half attention. :(

His speed is irrelevant if he can't catch the ball. Tyreek catches practically everything that comes his direction, Hardman does not.

No

Sign Tim Patrick when he becomes a free agent. He's a big, fast, sure-handed WR who would be a solid #2.

Hardman's route wasn't great and he should have caught it.

Preseason means nothing, but when you are Mecole Hardman trying to prove you can be counted on as the Chiefs #2 WR this year, not catching a 3rd down pass (and bobbling it up for a near miss INT), is not the ideal start for him.

Been dippin' into the tardnip again, eh?

Hardman is a speed guy and nothing more. I don't have high expectations for him at all. Reid/Mahomes make him look better than he is.

Hopefully I am wrong and he tears it up this season but I am not getting my hopes up.

Not ready to catch the ball.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mecole is jogging and is shocked when Pat throws him on the ball.<br><br>You’re running a crossing pattern on 3rd &amp; 4, dude. <a href="https://t.co/s40vmTwst0">https://t.co/s40vmTwst0</a></p>&mdash; Chase Snyder (@ChasingSnyder) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChasingSnyder/status/1427672671597309958?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

****ing hell, Hardman. Figured he'd have cleaned up these issues by now but apparently not. That's the type of shit that'll permanently lose trust with Mahomes.

Gadget player.

Mecole going against teams with strong #2 corners is going to be an issue.

He was probably more concerned with the LB waiting in the middle than anything else.

Still an issue, for sure.

Mecole's head is not in a good place. Chase didn't even tag him.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">At least he was able to catch my account <a href="https://t.co/QH1NpiV2wv">pic.twitter.com/QH1NpiV2wv</a></p>&mdash; Chase Snyder (@ChasingSnyder) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChasingSnyder/status/1427703066992779270?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yeah, I don't have a ton of hope for Hardman. Still has a lot of growing up to do.

Hardman had to have been searching his name. Neither of those tweets tagged him. Embarrassing.

Eh. Someone could've retweeted it @ him. Still, that's some weak shit.

I wish he would step up and follow hill's lead.
He is in the perfect situation, maybe his heart isn't in it.
He has the attributes, but not working on your catching, lackadaisical route running.

Shit, I would just run him deep every route on sprints. Use hill for slants and quick routes.
Then see if a big hands wr comes out next year or another great te.

After following him on social media for a while it became obvious that there wasn't a lot of seriousness going on.

He was just kind of...simple. He likes naps, was my biggest takeaway. I can see him driving the QBs and coaches crazy behind closed doors like wake the **** up and pay attention this is actually important to some of us

He likes naps.

He likes bowling.

He likes flirting with broke-ass white chicks from Olathe.

I'm literally anticipating some ridiculous story to come out in the next year or 3 about how he got caught banging someone's wife or was in a chick's DM's saying crazy shit, or gets pulled over with a Lee's Summit 6 who has her top off.

He can't be trusted to run a ****ing route correctly, you think he's covering up all his dirt smoothly? No chance in hell.

I sure hope he balls out, but whatever.

What, does he announce everytime he's taking a nap or something? LMAO

The best part is him motioning to Mahomes like HE did something wrong.

Holy shit, overreaction planet in full effect in this thread.

Definition request.
I think I know what you're talking about but wanted to be sure.

Watching it again, I'm really not a fan of those route concepts.

It's Reid so I'm sure there's a reason for it. I suppose flooding the middle against zone would probably leave one of those guys open, but against man it just creates a jumbled mess.

Let him play a few games as the 2 wr before we go nuts on his shitty play. He hasn't played a down yet in that role.

You guys are too much. Ya'll need to see a doctor cuz your hate-boner is far too stiff for far too long.

It would seem like pattern, not an overreaction at this point.

Yup. There’s been a clear disconnect with their communication and it happened last year.

It’s a trend at this point

Hardman, by all accounts, has had a great TC, and “ran way” with the WR2 job. I’m not going to overreact to literally one ****ing play in a meaningless preseason game.

I’m not concerned with what happened last year or the year before. When it’s a pattern this year, then I’ll be concerned.

Miscommunication? That play was just lackadaisical effort on Hardmans part.

Where a you seeing miscommunication?

He's still struggling to get ready to catch the ball.

This is a pattern.

Hardman dropped a pass against the 49ers that cost us a 1st down and almost led to an interception.
It also looks like Toub is looking for options at the returner spot. Hughes, Pringle, and Shepherd are all possible returners now. They even tried Dieter returning against San Fran. I guess Andy is trying to find an excuse to keep Dieter around. It's pass time for the Mahomes Buddy plan to end imo. smh

Hardman has tons of potential, but this is the year he has to take the next step.

See, this is why we need Gehrig Dieter.

No WR's chemistry with Mahomes is as good as Dieter's!

Hardman & Mahomes have never been on the same page.

Hardman is a good gadget player/return specialist.

Is it overreaction planet when this is the same shit we've seen the last 2 years?

Lol…so the key is to throw it behind him at his shoe laces.

**** you haters.

If the QB gives Mecole bad chemistry, then Mecole's bad chemistry will undo the bad chemistry and create good chemistry!

Yeah he seems to have good chemistry with Henne. QB by committee? Mahomes plays on plays meant for everybody else and Henne comes in for plays designed for Mecole?

Shut your stupid whore mouth.

:arrow:GO CHIEFS!:arrow:

Not all on Mecole. Mahomes has been missing throws and inaccurate.

Cut Mahomes? Thank God I’m not the head coach of the Chiefs because I would relegate Hardman to what you said. Pringle would be my #2 at this point. Based on clutch catches alone.

Needs to play well against starters, not scrubs.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">When Mecole runs the wrong route <a href="https://t.co/wQYKncZN2O">pic.twitter.com/wQYKncZN2O</a></p>&mdash; Bird Law Expert (@RealBirdLawyer) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealBirdLawyer/status/1428890333941616645?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 21, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Some HS kids/Freshman in college were saying something like this as well.

Not that I would be doing that was well at that age (not).

Is it a distraction...dunno. But as a Professional, whether it is football, CPA, Pilot, member of the military, you represent your corporation/brand.

It is all perspective. If he makes these choices, what other ones (bad) will he make?

Dedication to his craft? or tang? He has the physical gifts. Does he have the drive to put the time in to developing his unique abilities?

We have seen many awesome (or not so) go down that path of 'tang.

We are guys!

Still have not seen anything from Mecole that leads me to believe he can be a 45-snap guy who can beat CBs who play with physicality.

He is very good at the role Andy carved out for him but he needs to take a big giant step and soon.

Stopping on a route leading to a Mahomes INT is a cardinal sin in KC these days. That can NEVER happen again.

Is this gifed up somewhere?

Mahomes not Hardman was off tonight..if you say otherwise you didnt watch the game or youre too biased to see facts. . .

its preseason...typical Chiefs fans overreacting. .

Preseason where Darwin Thompson is the Chiefs MVP

I would have liked to have seen Mahomes throw both of those passes to where they were catchable, but to date we have not seen Hardman make those catches.

Then he goes and loafs on a route leading to a pick.

Then finally he does something, but it's against a total scrub having a bad preseason.

We just need to see more. I trust Pringle or Robinson a lot more right now in that role, and having Pringle play that role allows Hardman to do gadget things. And those guys are better blockers, too.

Hardman has not earned Mahomes trust yet. Mahomes has been on the same page with Robinson since his rookie year on the other hand.

Demarcus Robinson had 45 catches last year in a part time role. He is ready to take that next step. Until Mecole stops ****ing up he can run jet sweeps and catch slants.

For a guy with more speed than just about anyone else on the field has he ever caught a bomb? We're waiting. I know I have seen D-Rob catch multiple bombs from Mahomes, and not just in preseason.

Mecole caught a few in 2019, teams seem to adjust to his speed after and he’s never adjusted since.

I legit don't remember a single bomb he ever caught. Maybe that one against Indianapolis on the sideline.

He's good at catching them in camp though.

He caught one as part of that 28 point quarter against the Raiders in the Super Bowl year

You guys give up on certain players so fast and crown practice squad players after 1 good play. Very odd.

Oh yeah. Few and far between.

I think Hardman can be a roleplayer. But he will never have a thousand yard season. Just not that good. And he's worse at special teams.

Yeah and he had a second that game, which was pulled back due to a holding penalty I think.

That would be an hell of an accomplishment considering Hill and Kelce are both 1,000 yard guys. Dont think we'll get 3 unless CEH gets more touches

I don't think it matters because Andy and Mahomes are going to do what they do.

It matters long term though because Mecole is never going to be a starting receiver at this rate.

We need to start looking for Hill's replacement in the next draft or two.

Duh!

Fair, but when I say "never", I mean for any other team.

Mecole's days are numbered.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I didn’t think this take is controversial. It’s a need for the Chiefs. Hard to argue otherwise.</p>&mdash; Geoff Schwartz (@geoffschwartz) <a href="https://twitter.com/geoffschwartz/status/1428943262086139906?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 21, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>