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RealSNR 05-22-2021 10:47 AM

Lol. Pretty much the one and only time Chiefs fans have questioned the wisdom of the coaches and front office in determining the 53 man roster out of training camp/preseason and actually been right.

I mean, now that I look back on it, what the **** was the team thinking in keeping Nick ****ing Williams? Seriously. Pretty sure we booted his ass out the door midway through the year anyway and brought in Kendall Reyes or somebody like that.

Score update-

Chiefs coaches 458
Chiefs fans 1

Couch-Potato 06-10-2021 07:08 AM

So are we just gonna sit around with $9m in cap space? Nah, Veach will cook something up and we'll end up with a sexy addition....but, who? Is there a cut candidate? A low key big-name vet that will end up on the block? WR? Edge? CB? RB?

Wilson8 06-10-2021 04:42 PM

Spotrac.com says we have 89 players on current roster with $8,288,534 of cap space. Overthecap.com also says we have 89 players on current roster with $7,872,709 of cap space. Chiefs usually like to keep a few million for needed roster additions during the season.

There are a few positions that might be improved, but cap space is going to limit what we do unless we redo a contract or two.

I think the Chiefs will go into the preseason with what we have, but Brett will watch other teams rosters and maybe pick up a couple of players with a low cost trade or signing a veteran at a club friendly deal.

Chiefs have -

(18) CB/DB/S - Tyrann Mathieu, Armani Watts, Juan Thornhill, Daniel Sorensen, Rodney Clemons, Zayne Anderson, Devon Key, Will Parks, Charvarius Ward, Rashad Fenton, L’Jarius Sneed, Thakarius Bopete Keyes, Deandre Baker, Mike Hughes, Chris Lammons, Marlon Character, Dicaprio Bootle, and Manny Patterson.

(15) OL - Orlando Brown, Joe Thuney, Austin Blythe, Laurent Duvernay-Tardif, Mike Remmers, Nick Allegretti, Kyle Long, Lucas Niang, Creed Humphry, Trey Smith,
Andrew Wylie, Yasir Durant, Martinas Rankin, Prince Tega Wanogho, and Darryl Williams.

(14) WR - Tyreek Hill, Mecole Hardman, Byron Pringle, Demarcus Robinson, Cornell Powell, Antonio Callaway, Chad Williams, Marcus Kemp, Gehrig Dieter, Jody Fortson, Maurice Ffrench, Daurice Fountain, Chris Finke, and Dalton Schoen.

(14) DL - Frank Clark, Chris Jones, Jurran Reed, Derrick Nnadi, Khalen Saunders, Michael Danna, Tershawn Wharton, Taco Charlton, Joshua Kaindoh, Tim Ward, Austin Edwards, Demone Harris, Tyler Clark, and Malik Herring.

(9) LB - Anthony Hitchens, Dorian O’Daniel, Willie Gay Jr, Ben Niemann, Nick Bolton, Darius Harris, Omari Cobb, Riley Cole, and Emmanuel Smith.

(7) RB/FB - Clyde Edwards-Helaire, Darrel Williams, Darwin Thompson, Jerick McKinnon, Derrick Gore, Elijah McGuire, and Michael Burton.

(5) TE - Travis Kelce, Blake Bell, Noah Gray, Nick Keizer, and Evan Baylis.

(4) QB - Patrick Mahomes, Chad Henne, Shane Buechele, and Anthony Gordon.

(3) ST - Harrison Butker, James Winchester, and Tommy Townsend.

DaneMcCloud 06-10-2021 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 15703372)
So are we just gonna sit around with $9m in cap space? Nah, Veach will cook something up and we'll end up with a sexy addition

The Chiefs do not have $9 million in cap space because they need to set aside $5 million for injuries and so on.

I wouldn't expect anything other than Vet Minimum players at this point.

Wilson8 06-11-2021 01:49 PM

Bashaud Breeland's contract details with the Vikings are now on overthecap.com.

$1,075,000 Base, $1,000,000 Pro Rated Bonus, $925,000 per game roster bonus, $1,075,000 guaranteed, $2,727,944 cap. So actually less that what the Chiefs paid last year at $3M with a $2.5M guaranteed.

Breeland's Viking contract was earlier reported to be a $4M contract.

Bashaud has said several times he wanted to play in KC.

It would seem that KC was ready to move on.

BossChief 06-11-2021 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15704108)
The Chiefs do not have $9 million in cap space because they need to set aside $5 million for injuries and so on.

I wouldn't expect anything other than Vet Minimum players at this point.

Veach out front of Arrowhead with a duffel bag with 4.5m in it for whoever takes it first. Ingram, Houston or another DE...maybe check in on recovery for Vernon as we get closer to camp.

mkp785 06-11-2021 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 15703372)
So are we just gonna sit around with $9m in cap space? Nah, Veach will cook something up and we'll end up with a sexy addition....but, who? Is there a cut candidate? A low key big-name vet that will end up on the block? WR? Edge? CB? RB?

Laurence Darnell Fitzgerald Jr.

Perfect 2nd WR to play across from Reek.

BossChief 06-11-2021 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mkp785 (Post 15705177)
Laurence Darnell Fitzgerald Jr.

Perfect 2nd WR to play across from Reek.

2017 called...

mkp785 06-11-2021 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 15705180)
2017 called...

I'll take his 2019 numbers:

75 catches
800 yards
4 TDs

Tell me that's not perfectly fine for some who will be 3rd in the pecking order (maybe 4th with CEH).

Hell, your guy Julio had that last year and you guys wanted to give up draft capital and major money for him.

Wilson8 06-11-2021 02:24 PM

If the Chiefs need a CB after the preseason, the Minnesota Vikings might have one for trade or release.

They signed Patrick Peterson (Cards), Makensie Alexander (Bengals), and Bashaud Breeland (Chiefs).

They already had 25 year old (1st rd), Jeff Gladney, 23 year old (3rd rd) Cameron Dantzler, 23 year old (5th rd) Harrison Hand. All of these guys are on their 2nd year of their rookie contracts.

They also have 25 year old Kris Boyd that the Vikings drafted in 2017 out of Texas. Last year he played 16 games with 5 starts for the Vikings. He is 5-11, 201. Coming out of Texas he ran a 4.45 40.

BossChief 06-11-2021 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mkp785 (Post 15705185)
I'll take his 2019 numbers:

75 catches
800 yards
4 TDs

Tell me that's not perfectly fine for some who will be 3rd in the pecking order (maybe 4th with CEH).

Hell, your guy Julio had that last year and you guys wanted to give up draft capital and major money for him.

Julio Jones has that in 7 games.

GTFO. Larry Fitz is done.

Halfcan 06-11-2021 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 15658508)
What say you CP? What are the best available FA acquisitions and trade scenarios for the Chiefs post-draft?


Shwartz or Fisher, to compete with Niang for RT?

Breeland, Earl Thomas or Sherman at DB?

Melvin Ingram as dedicated Pass Rusher?

Larry Fitzgerald or Goldan Tate as WR #2?

Pull off the big trade for Julio!?

:hmmm: None of the above will happen.

Wilson8 06-15-2021 12:51 AM

Chiefs sign another OT, Wyatt Miller, 6-5, 320 and 25 years old.

Played at UCF then Jets, Bengals, Cowboys, and Seahawks.

https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2021...miller-signed/

Wilson8 06-15-2021 01:05 AM

Not sure what the Practice Squad rules will be for 2021. For Covid, the NFL expanded the roster to 16 and allowed more veterans. I've read that the expanded roster and the ability to play two PS members was popular with teams.

Wyatt Miller may have been signed with possibility of using him on the Practice Squad.

With Kyle Long being out, they may just need another body for practicing and preseason.

Wilson8 06-15-2021 01:37 AM

When you have a position of strength, you keep trying to make it even stronger and better.

Another thought would be the Chiefs keep adding OL and plan on doing a trade of an OL for a DE, CB, or WR.

We currently have 16 OL, Orlando Brown, Joe Thuney, Austin Blythe, Laurent Duvernay-Tardif, Mike Remmers, Nick Allegretti, Kyle Long (currently injured), Lucas Niang, Creed Humphry, Trey Smith, Andrew Wylie, Yasir Durant, Martinas Rankin, Prince Tega Wanogho, Darryl Williams, and Wyatt Miller.

Dunerdr 06-15-2021 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 15705210)
If the Chiefs need a CB after the preseason, the Minnesota Vikings might have one for trade or release.

They signed Patrick Peterson (Cards), Makensie Alexander (Bengals), and Bashaud Breeland (Chiefs).

They already had 25 year old (1st rd), Jeff Gladney, 23 year old (3rd rd) Cameron Dantzler, 23 year old (5th rd) Harrison Hand. All of these guys are on their 2nd year of their rookie contracts.

They also have 25 year old Kris Boyd that the Vikings drafted in 2017 out of Texas. Last year he played 16 games with 5 starts for the Vikings. He is 5-11, 201. Coming out of Texas he ran a 4.45 40.

Isnt Gladney on the commisioners list for assault and battery or something?

MahomesMagic 06-15-2021 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 15705210)
If the Chiefs need a CB after the preseason, the Minnesota Vikings might have one for trade or release.

They signed Patrick Peterson (Cards), Makensie Alexander (Bengals), and Bashaud Breeland (Chiefs).

They already had 25 year old (1st rd), Jeff Gladney, 23 year old (3rd rd) Cameron Dantzler, 23 year old (5th rd) Harrison Hand. All of these guys are on their 2nd year of their rookie contracts.

They also have 25 year old Kris Boyd that the Vikings drafted in 2017 out of Texas. Last year he played 16 games with 5 starts for the Vikings. He is 5-11, 201. Coming out of Texas he ran a 4.45 40.

I'll take Hand. Always liked him for our system.

Wilson8 06-15-2021 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 15708508)
Isnt Gladney on the commisioners list for assault and battery or something?

You are correct -

Quote:

"[Gladney] now faces up to 2-10 years in prison if convicted after an incident that happened on April 2nd. That’s when a 22-year-old woman, who says she was in a relationship with Gladney, told police they got into an altercation over text messages she was receiving. Gladney is accused of hitting the accuser with closed fists, choking her and dragging her by the hair while driving with her outside his vehicle. She also accuses him of '...pulling (her) by her hair trying to hold her still in order to get the Face ID to work.' The accuser was able to break free and get into a vehicle with unknown passengers. Detectives documented bruising on her head, ears and torso. She also reported scratches on her face and neck and abrasions on her knees."
https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/...estic-violence
So there is a reason the Vikings are signing so many free agent CBs.

In addition to Patrick Peterson, Mackensie Alexander, and Bashaud Breeland, the Vikings have also signed free agents Tye Smith (Seahawks, Titans) and Parry Nickerson (Jets, Jaguars, and Packers) and UFDA Amari Henderson. (Wake Forest). They also drafted CB Camryn Bynum (Cal) in the 4th (125) round, but they plan to maybe move him to safety.

Even with Jeff Gladney's situation, the Vikings will have a surplus of CBs and someone will be cut or traded.

Kiimo 06-15-2021 01:09 PM

I've said that Face ID was a bad idea from the start

Wilson8 06-15-2021 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 15709028)
I've said that Face ID was a bad idea from the start

Well she didn't share her pass code either, so she really did not want him on her phone.

I wanted Mike Hughes before the Vikings drafted him in 2018. Now we got him. Hope he is a able to stay healthy and is a good pickup for KC.

I wanted Jeff Gladney before the Vikings drafted him in 2020. Instead we drafted L'Jarius Sneed in the 4th.

Always interesting how things work out.

Wilson8 06-15-2021 03:14 PM

I think NFL teams that need offensive linemen will either want to trade with KC or will be picking up our released players.

KC might be watching the Bills to see what they do at DE. With their first two 2021 picks, they drafted Greg Rousseau and Carlos Basham. They drafted A.J. Epenesa in the 2nd round in 2020. They also have Jerry Hughes, Mario Addison, Bryan Cox, Darryl Johnson, and Efe Obada. Bills could save money by cutting Hughes ($6,350,000).


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