Well, nothing against Luck, but his career couldn't have ended more appropriately. You're given another generational QB without having to plan jack shit (just like the last one) and you ruin him through your own incompetence and wind up reaping none of the success that was promised when Luck declared for the draft. The football gods finally decided to bestow sweet sweet justice when they mutilated Luck and made him retire early.

They went through a lot of crappy quarterbacks from Bert Jones’ last year in 81 until they drafted Manning in 98. That included a gambling addict(Schlichter) and quite possibly the biggest asshole ever to play in the NFL, Jeff George, both of whom they drafted number one overall.

So, it’s not accurate at all to say they didn’t suffer before they got Manning.

You sound like Patriots fans saying, "We had to go through Rohan Davey herpa derpa derp" whenever people say they've had it butt ass lucky

You implied that they were somehow gifted Manning without deserving him. I pointed out that wasn’t really the case. :shrug:

You had how many whacks at the #1 overall pick prior to Manning? A million?

Colts LT Eric Fisher won't put timeline on return from torn Achilles

The Indianapolis Colts are banking big that Eric Fisher will return from his torn Achilles early in the season.

The newly signed left tackle told reporters Thursday that he wouldn't put a timeline on his recovery, however.

"What I can tell you is I'm a big 'control what you can control' kind of guy," Fisher said via the Indy Star. "Obviously, I'd like to snap my fingers and have a perfect Achilles again, but you know, that's not the case. Obviously, the club feels good with where I'm at, I'm feeling good, but any other questions about my Achilles, I'll leave up to Chris Ballard or coach (Frank Reich)."

NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported after the signing that the Colts are comfortable with Fisher's rehab, but the left tackle might not be ready to play until October. Sam Tevi is an option to begin the year as the starter if that is indeed the case.

Indy opens the season against the Seahawks (Sept. 12), Rams (Sept. 19), Titans (Sept. 26) and Dolphins (Oct. 3). Each won at least 10 games last season. It's the most difficult opening stretch for any team based on 2020 opponent win percentage.

The sooner Fisher gets back on the field, the quicker the Colts line will be solidified in front of Carson Wentz.

Fisher, who was playing the best football of his career before tearing his Achilles, believes the new start after eight years in Kansas City is just what he needed at this stage of his career.

"As soon as I got the call I was being cut, it was an automatic reset in my brain of I'm nowhere near being done, I feel like I got a lot of years left in me," Fisher said, via the team's official website. "I was actually thinking about that this morning driving back from rehab. It's going to be an awesome reset for myself and a fresh slate, keep working and finish the second half of my career off on a good start. I've been thinking about that and excited to kind of have that reset."

https://www.nfl.com/news/colts-lt-er...-torn-achilles

Good luck Fisher! Hope it works out for you. :thumb:

And to think this was a solution some here wanted... A guy coming back from injury who MIGHT be ready to go in October that you have under contract for one year at over 9M

Thank God for Bart Veach!

He’ll be lucky to be 85% by the end of the season.

Ballard is a dullard.

it is not a bad solution depending on your other choices. i mean Fisher if healthy a quality left tackle. IF you are a team hoping to make the playoffs even without him, waiting to October is fine. The key is upgrading that position during the playoffs.

Now if you have a better option and one who is ready to start the season, sure.

But I am not sure there is a better option for the Colts right now. Not sure they really should be trading top picks for a vet until they have an idea how good or bad Wentz is going to be in 2021. i mean he was awful last year not sure I would mortgage the future until you have an idea.

They've already guaranteed Wentz $15M and given him half of his $10M roster bonus. Plus they traded picks for him. I don't think they're in "wait and see" mode.

Indy was such a bad team that a rookie Luck was worth 9 more wins.

Indy didn't nudge their team towards some extra losses?

Vegas needs to take notes. LMAO

A 1-3 or 0-4 start is a real possibility for the Colts. That first month is brutal. Especially trying to break Wentz in and Fisher probably not back yet.

Are you a former Colt's fan ???:p

Surprisingly no.

This. I don't know why they don't expand to 60. It's gotta be a money thing.

I don't know if I would go so far as to say that. He's played better. I think it's meant as a boost of confidence for the fans.

Glad our season is not riding on Fisher any longer. **** the Colts.

I agree, last year was a noticeable step back from his previous two seasons. Still solid, but not the level where he used to be. His weakness used to only be against elite power rushers (Harrison, Bosa, etc). Last season he was losing matchups against bull rushers with more regularity.

They’ll be waiting around until November for him.

Yeah... good luck with that...

LOL wut?

Yep, they will be out of playoff contention by then too.

Ballards at it again. They're going to make Darius Leonard the highest paid LB in the league.. apparently the starting mark is 18 mill a year.

Have fun trying to win when you spend ball your money on an off ball LB and a guard.

I get it, but it still sucks. That’s probably what Leonard’s agent was seeking— record money for the position. You don’t want to just let him walk because he’s a great player but you also don’t want to spend that cash on him. Letting him walk is probably the best route, but then you get all kinds of criticism lobbed your way, especially since you (as Ballard) have a history of never spending cap money or making bold moves.

It sucks, but yeah... it’s almost as if you hope dudes like Leonard end up being pretty good but not TOO good. Which I agree... that’s an absolutely ridiculous and stupid mindset to have, but when their position is so defined and niche for the modern NFL, that’s kind of what it comes down to

Yep, and how affective will he be when he finally does play? Glad we don't have to deal with any of it.

We made Hitchens the highest paid LB a few years ago, drafted a RB rd 1 and then drafted LB’s early in back-ro-back years.

And I guarantee if Bolton or Gay is really good they’ll be paid too.

We threw a couple bucks at Thuney too

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Big lift for Indy: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Colts?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Colts</a> LT Eric Fisher, whose recovery from a torn Achilles happened faster than anyone imagined, is expected to start Sunday vs. the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Rams?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Rams</a>, source said. The Pro Bowler debuts to protect Carson Wentz.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1439425010305622022?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

How?

Good for him. We'll miss ya, Big Fish.

World class athlete with world class medical staff makes a world class recovery.

Good on ya, Fish. Go kick some ass.

This. No ill will towards Fish. As we saw, he was a pretty important cog in getting us to and winning a SB. Can’t root against him, unless he’s playing KC.

At least we didn't lose him because some 'tard told him to sit the **** down and shut the **** up. . . .

Oof. Hope we were right.

was he ever diagnosed with a 'torn' achilles? i always thought they said it was an achilles injury, never mentioned it was torn?

Meh. Would've needed a new LT after the season anyway unless you're content to pay Fisher close to market value.

Exactly.

Braden Smith signed a fat contract and proceeded to get hurt while getting run over last Sunday so Julien “Turnstile” Davenport will still be in the starting line up, just on the right side.

Oof.

Been there done that my man.

Thank you

Good luck to him when he's not playing KC. It was a bummer how his time at KC ended.

Remains to be seen if his recovery is all the way up to world class at this point or not.

Its no surprise to anyone that did a little research into the return time for the injury. Called this shit this off-season.

Can't wait for Chris Jones to "James Harrison" him in the playoffs*

*assuming Colts can get to, and win, a playoff game


Seriously though....Fish was a good trooper, steady for the most part, and a key part of our SB run.....will have fond memories of him in red

but CJ is going to rape faces if they meet

Two points:
1/ We have no idea how comfortable he is with it and whether he'll be able to play at the same level.
2/ Even putting 1/ to the side, there was no 100% guarantee he was going to be back on this timetable. And it would've been criminal to to bank on someone that was perhaps a 60-70% probability to protect Patrick's blindside. We already tried that with the Cam Erving experiment and that didn't end up well.

It was absolutely the right to move on regardless how Fisher works out.

Did one of them flip sides?

It’s probably not a good bet that they’ll even make the playoffs. Leonard’s hurt, Nelson’s playing hurt, Hilton’s hurt, Xavier Rhodes is hurt, Braden Smith is hurt, and several others are questionable.

Wentz is always a threat to get hurt.

They’re gonna get killed by the Rams today and be 0-2.

We’ll see if they can hold it together.

If someone told me at the beginning of last season we were gonna lose Fisher and Schwartz forever, I'd have told you we're gonna be in serious ****ing trouble. Veach had that shit fixed before the draft. Pretty incredible.

And then...he fixes both guard spots and center. Heck we even have decent depth now too. Still have the doctor, Allegretti, Remmers, Wylie, Blythe and maybe eventually Long. We GOOD at o-line. So while I liked Fisher and wish him the best, I couldn't give two fairy fart ****s at this point.

One of my favorite Fish moments. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...8ff9bc6396.jpg


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Yikes. Well, with the way the Titans got completely smashed while being healthy you might just win the division by default once some key pieces are back.

True, I’m just not sure losing your 2 first games at home is easy to come back from. Especially with at Tennessee, at Miami, and at Baltimore the next 3 games.

Yeesh.

Watch the Texans win that damn division lol

That would be so amazing I’m just going to have to root for it.

I don't know if you're aware of this, but CJ moves all around the line.

For example: Watch the Cleveland game last week, and note which side(s) of the line Jones got his two sacks

New Deberg thread:

“Should the Chiefs have switched to David Culley when he was on staff instead of keeping Andy Reid?”

Do you think that Orlando Brown Jr. is better than Fisher?

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/51/08/8b/5...ark-knight.jpg

(I’m rooting for it too LOL

They may legit be the best team in that division right now. What the actual ****?

Davenport is back at LT. Fisher get hurt?

Yes because he should end up being as good if not better as a pass blocker, but is already a better run blocker. Love Fisher and am grateful for all he brought to this team, but I think long term Brown will be an upgrade.

Not 25-year old Brown. Ask this question again in a year or two.

Fisher at LT and Brown at RT would have been sweet.

:rolleyes:

Do you think this is as simple as that question? Fisher just turned 30 and is coming off an achilles injury. We have no ****ing clue what the answer to that question is today more or less the next few years.

I don’t remember a single person lamenting Fisher’s departure, a 30 year old with a major injury who CP generally disliked anyway. Now all of a sudden we have a bunch of geniouses pulling an “I told you so” after one half of football. Lol

:spock:

If Brown didn't want to play RT for the Ravens, do you think he'd be content to play RT for the Chiefs?

Still isnt playing.

Edit: must be on a pitch count. He's been in and out.

Moving on was the right move.

If he has an all pro year it's still the right move...

Yeah, I guess you can't compare them at the same ages? Progression will of course be a to be determined area. It would only make sense though that at the same ages, points in their careers, who is/was better.

Wentz hurt...again

No question, yes. :thumb:

Rinse / Repeat...

I see Wentz was announced out with a "pretty bad" ankle roll.

Fisher hasn't been "generally disliked" for more than the last 5 years.

Hey how bout them Cowboys!

Well, one of those teams can’t seem to win the the playoffs, the other has been to 3 straight AFCCG, and 2 straight SB. He might have considered it.

If his deal is, "My dad wanted me to be a LT, damn it!" and would bark at the coaches every day for two years that he was a LT, not a RT, and eventually got fed up with it and asked for a trade, not knowing if he'd be sent to the Chiefs or a team as terrible as the Jaguars, it would seem to me that the extra playoff and winning success he'd see with KC wouldn't be good enough.

And there's nothing wrong with that. He only gets one NFL career, and he doesn't want to spend it playing RT.

I knew he'd be back very early, but I 100% think releasing him was the right move and I believe that Orlando Brown will be much better than Fisher was.

This is turning out to be a mistake

Not really, Fisher was abused last game. He's not playing well at all. But neither is Orlando brown. So who knows?

If he does not get l Mahomes killed beforehand... I don't think he'll ever be that great at past protection, he's just too slow. Maybe it run blocking. I think he's more suited for RT.

At least we wouldn’t have had to give up valuable draft capital to keep fisher- they could have picked a developmental tackle with that pick. Orlando brown needs to be benched. He’s going to get mahomes killed.