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Wisconsin_Chief 01-31-2022 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 16121971)
Like a few others here, I'm starting to think he got his noggin smacked in a way that wasn't obvious, and quite possibly played the rest of the game concussed

Yeah, that tackle on the Bengals' lineman after the interception looked awkward. Definitely shook him up.

Pepe Silvia 01-31-2022 01:03 PM

Roger Goodell was in the press box, every time I’ve seen him in the press box shady shit always happens, he was there to make sure that game went as planned.

Pepe Silvia 01-31-2022 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 16121995)
The NFL trusts guys with a 7 wonderlic score to keep the biggest cheating scandal in the world quiet, year after year?

Plenty of former players have admitted that it’s rigged. Tim Brown, Jerry Rice, Alex Karras, Dick Butkus, Bubba Smith. Just to name a few. The league sweeps it under the rug.

Easy 6 01-31-2022 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 16121999)
Yeah, that tackle on the Bengals' lineman after the interception looked awkward. Definitely shook him up.

Yep it could've easily been that play, looked like he took a knee to the dome

DRM08 01-31-2022 01:11 PM

If this game was rigged, it would have been a lot more convincing to have KC struggle the entire game instead of only the 2nd half.

Donger 01-31-2022 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 16122032)
If this game was rigged, it would have been a lot more convincing to have KC struggle the entire game instead of only the 2nd half.

That's just what they want you to think.

Mecca 01-31-2022 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16121985)
Ya. I'm not invested in the WWE because its all fake. So I don't watch it. I couldn't name a single ****ing wrestler outside of guys like Sting and Undertaker and any other major name in the business who was in the video game I played on Nintendo or w/e it was in the 90s. I for damn sure dont talk about how not invested I am in that sport or how fake and scripted it is on a message board for Undertaker fans.

And that is exactly why it's easily swept under the rug.

jd1020 01-31-2022 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16122035)
And that is exactly why it's easily swept under the rug.

So you think your howling on a Chiefs message board about how fake this game is and how the QB of "your favorite team" just took a dive is going to uncover the fraud?

rabblerouser 01-31-2022 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerinMo (Post 16122013)
Plenty of former players have admitted that it’s rigged. Tim Brown, Jerry Rice, Alex Karras, Dick Butkus, Bubba Smith. Just to name a few. The league sweeps it under the rug.

Ray Lewis, Terrell Suggs, Dwight Smith...

rabblerouser 01-31-2022 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 16122032)
If this game was rigged, it would have been a lot more convincing to have KC struggle the entire game instead of only the 2nd half.

Oh, so I guess the Chiefs just completely forgot how to play and coach football at halftime then?

Pepe Silvia 01-31-2022 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 16122044)
Ray Lewis, Terrell Suggs, Dwight Smith...

And that was right after the league just gifted them a Super Bowl.

Donger 01-31-2022 01:15 PM

So, Mahomes' motivation for tanking this game is what?

Mecca 01-31-2022 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16122038)
So you think your howling on a Chiefs message board about how fake this game is and how the QB of "your favorite team" just took a dive is going to uncover the fraud?

Nope I don't, bit it does emphasize how the NFL can do it. There's to much to lose for people do it can't be true. Keeping the status quo is easier.

Mecca 01-31-2022 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerinMo (Post 16122049)
And that was right after the league just gifted them a Super Bowl.

Larry Johnson is very outspoken about how it's fake.

jd1020 01-31-2022 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16122051)
Nope I don't, bit it does emphasize how the NFL can do it. Theresa to much to lose for people do it can't be true. Keeping the status quo is easier.

The pig farmer is more convincing when it comes to Bigfoot.

Pepe Silvia 01-31-2022 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 16122050)
So, Mahomes' motivation for tanking this game is what?

You never know, think Michael Jordan and his gambling debts.

Donger 01-31-2022 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerinMo (Post 16122057)
Not getting whacked.

You mean killed?

AdolfOliverBush 01-31-2022 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerinMo (Post 16122013)
Plenty of former players have admitted that it’s rigged. Tim Brown, Jerry Rice, Alex Karras, Dick Butkus, Bubba Smith. Just to name a few. The league sweeps it under the rug.

And they're doing a great job, considering it's being discussed on an internet message board.

Mecca 01-31-2022 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16122055)
The pig farmer is more convincing when it comes to Bigfoot.

And I'm sure all the former players saying it are also morons, people will believe what's most convenient.

DRM08 01-31-2022 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 16122048)
Oh, so I guess the Chiefs just completely forgot how to play and coach football at halftime then?

That’s what I am saying. If this was rigged, it sure as hell was not subtle. Mahomes with 98/100 QBR in first half and 1/100 QBR in second half. If you are going to rig it, gotta be less extreme than that. That was an epic chokejob.

Pepe Silvia 01-31-2022 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 16122060)
You mean killed?

Well not him but they would hurt his family. I once saw a movie about Pete Rose, there was a scene where his bookie was discussing with a mobster about taking him out for his gambling debts. Whether it’s gambling or throwing a game if you cost these people tons of money you never know.

AdolfOliverBush 01-31-2022 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16122071)
And I'm sure all the former players saying it are also morons, people will believe what's most convenient.

Yeah, like believing "KC threw the game" instead of "KC shit the bed in the second half".

Mecca 01-31-2022 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 16122072)
That’s what I am saying. If this was rigged, it sure as hell was not subtle. Mahomes with 98/100 QBR in first half and 1/100 QBR in second half. If you are going to rig it, gotta be less extreme than that. That was an epic chokejob.

They only promoted the Bengals would come back about 7900 times.

Donger 01-31-2022 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerinMo (Post 16122074)
Well not him but they would hurt his family. I once saw a movie about Pete Rose, there was a scene where his bookie was discussing with a mobster about taking him out for his gambling debts.

So, "they" got to Mahomes and said that if you don't tank the game, your family will be killed.

AdolfOliverBush 01-31-2022 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 16122080)
So, "they" got to Mahomes and said that if you don't tank the game, your family will be killed.

That's the most likely explanation, obviously. LMAO

rabblerouser 01-31-2022 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 16121995)
The NFL trusts guys with a 7 wonderlic score to keep the biggest cheating scandal in the world quiet, year after year?

https://youtu.be/IA6KbNw-3TU

jd1020 01-31-2022 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 16122080)
So, "they" got to Mahomes and said that if you don't tank the game, your family will be killed.

Probably told him there would be more tiktok videos to come.

Pepe Silvia 01-31-2022 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 16122080)
So, "they" got to Mahomes and said that if you don't tank the game, your family will be killed.

They think it happened to Sonny Liston in the early 70s, he was supposed to throw a fight and was found dead in his bed with drugs staged in his kitchen.

rabblerouser 01-31-2022 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 16122080)
So, "they" got to Mahomes and said that if you don't tank the game, your family will be killed.

No, you ****ing moron.

"They" pay him a lot of money to perform. He's a performer. Just like Dwight Smith said, the games aren't decided on the field. It's ****ing entertainment.

"They" don't "get to" anyone.

"They" gave him a $500m contract.

Quit being so ****ing stupid.

Mecca 01-31-2022 01:27 PM

As an entertainment product the NFL really kills though. Bunch of exciting games, built a bunch of new stars.

kcpasco 01-31-2022 01:27 PM

Pretty sure a complete lunatic like Antonio Brown wouldn’t be able to keep this a secret.

jd1020 01-31-2022 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16122095)
As an entertainment product the NFL really kills though. Bunch of exciting games, built a bunch of new stars.

Really pissed all over that Trevor Lawrence guy though. Didn't even need to make him a star. He was already one with all the hype. People were circling his name 2 years before his draft class.

Pepe Silvia 01-31-2022 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 16122093)
No, you ****ing moron.

"They" pay him a lot of money to perform. He's a performer. Just like Dwight Smith said, the games aren't decided on the field. It's ****ing entertainment.

"They" don't "get to" anyone.

"They" gave him a $500m contract.

Quit being so ****ing stupid.

That’s how it really done, I’m just messing with donger. LMAO

Donger 01-31-2022 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 16122093)
No, you ****ing moron.

"They" pay him a lot of money to perform. He's a performer. Just like Dwight Smith said, the games aren't decided on the field. It's ****ing entertainment.

"They" don't "get to" anyone.

"They" gave him a $500m contract.

Quit being so ****ing stupid.

Was that rant supposed to make any sense?

Yes, he's a very rich young man. So, it's unlikely that money would be a motivation, wouldn't you say? Surely you aren't suggesting that "they" told him that if he didn't tank the game, "they" would stop paying him, right?

ChiefsCountry 01-31-2022 01:32 PM

rabble is an alcoholic dead beat dad
Mecca is a 40 year old loser who plays video games all day and watches WWE

That is who thinks its rigged.

Pepe Silvia 01-31-2022 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 16122110)
Was that rant supposed to make any sense?

Yes, he's a very rich young man. So, it's unlikely that money would be a motivation, wouldn't you say? Surely you aren't suggesting that "they" told him that if he didn't tank the game, "they" would stop paying him, right?

Look what happened when Cam Newton pouted after throwing the SB for Manning. He was one of the rising stars in the game and they made him persona non grata, just like that.

-King- 01-31-2022 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16122054)
Larry Johnson is very outspoken about how it's fake.

Yeah, and he's a very reliable source.

Mile High Mania 01-31-2022 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerinMo (Post 16122115)
Look what happened when Cam Newton pouted after throwing the SB for Manning. He was one of the rising stars in the game and they made him persona non grata, just like that.

So, he threw the game... got it. The Broncos demolished the guy. And, since then he has been far from anything like he was prior.

AdolfOliverBush 01-31-2022 01:35 PM

Anyone who truly believes the NFL is rigged and keeps watching is a ****ing idiot. Show your conviction and stop being an NFL fan, or you're a disingenuous whiner.

kcpasco 01-31-2022 01:35 PM

Why wouldn’t he just have thrown a couple pick 6’s then went back to playing decent.

Someone should tell Pat that next time he throws a game he doesn’t have to put on clown shoes and run around in circles and take dumb sacks for an entire half of football.

Mecca 01-31-2022 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16122119)
Yeah, and he's a very reliable source.

And there ya go, any former players isn't a credible source etc...it's what you wann believe. To many fans have to much to lose to even entertain this conversation.

DRM08 01-31-2022 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerinMo (Post 16122115)
Look what happened when Cam Newton pouted after throwing the SB for Manning. He was one of the rising stars in the game and they made him persona non grata, just like that.

I only remember him getting injured a lot. That will derail any career. What did he say about the Super Bowl?

Pepe Silvia 01-31-2022 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 16122122)
So, he threw the game... got it. The Broncos demolished the guy. And, since then he has been far from anything like he was prior.

He also didn’t try to recover his own fumble as well.

Mecca 01-31-2022 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush (Post 16122125)
Anyone who truly believes the NFL is rigged and keeps watching is a ****ing idiot. Show your conviction and stop being an NFL fan, or you're a disingenuous whiner.

Why do WWE and AEW have fans? Why are there television shows at all?

AdolfOliverBush 01-31-2022 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16122127)
And there ya go, any former players isn't a credible source etc...it's what you wann believe. To many fans have to much to lose to even entertain this conversation.

So a former player saying it isn't rigged would be just as convincing to you?

Mile High Mania 01-31-2022 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerinMo (Post 16122131)
He also didn’t try to recover his own fumble as well.

Any why was that? He saw the swarm and after being hammered all game, he just backed off for self preservation. Says a lot about the player.

AdolfOliverBush 01-31-2022 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16122132)
Why do WWE and AEW have fans? Why are there television shows at all?

Everyone knows pro wrestling isn't a competitive sport. It's theater with spray tans and steroids.

jd1020 01-31-2022 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16122132)
Why do WWE and AEW have fans? Why are there television shows at all?

Everyone knows that WWE is scripted. Theres a difference about being open about it and some tinfoil hat message board mouth breathers talking about some conspiracy of fraud.

Mecca 01-31-2022 01:38 PM

https://youtu.be/l-35uwpQWIk

Donger 01-31-2022 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush (Post 16122139)
Everyone knows pro wrestling isn't a competitive sport. It's theater with spray tans and steroids.

Well, not everyone...

Mecca 01-31-2022 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush (Post 16122139)
Everyone knows pro wrestling isn't a competitive sport. It's theater with spray tans and steroids.

But it wasn't always that way...about 100 years ago pro wrestling was presented like MMA is.

Donger 01-31-2022 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16122145)

Are you under the impression that former NFL players cannot be conspiracy nuts?

Pepe Silvia 01-31-2022 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 16122130)
I only remember him getting injured a lot. That will derail any career. What did he say about the Super Bowl?

He was really angry in his post game interview. Let’s just say he didn’t handle being told what to do by his NFL masters too well.

Mile High Mania 01-31-2022 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerinMo (Post 16122157)
He was really angry in his post game interview. Let’s just say he didn’t handle being told what to do by his NFL masters too well.

ROFL

AdolfOliverBush 01-31-2022 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16122149)
But it wasn't always that way...about 100 years ago pro wrestling was presented like MMA is.

Any adult who ever believed pro wrestling was legit was a ****ing moron.

Donger 01-31-2022 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16122149)
But it wasn't always that way...about 100 years ago pro wrestling was presented like MMA is.

Are you sure? I thought that "professional" wrestling originated at carnivals.

Mecca 01-31-2022 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush (Post 16122161)
Any adult who ever believed pro wrestling was legit was a ****ing moron.

Wouldn't it be funny if in 100 years people said man anyone whoever thought THE NFL was real was a total dipshit.

Pepe Silvia 01-31-2022 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 16122160)
ROFL

They gifted you that SB cause of Manning and because you threw the SB to Seattle. When your offense hiked the ball over Mannings head on the first play. That was the signal to the Gamblers that you agreed to throw the game.

Donger 01-31-2022 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16122169)
Wouldn't it be funny if in 100 years people said man anyone whoever thought THE NFL was real was a total dipshit.

What did people say about the NFL 100 years ago? I suppose it wasn't rigged then.

AdolfOliverBush 01-31-2022 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16122169)
Wouldn't it be funny if in 100 years people said man anyone whoever thought THE NFL was real was a total dipshit.

What would be really hilarious is if you showed your conviction, and stopped watching or following Chiefs football.

Mecca 01-31-2022 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 16122163)
Are you sure? I thought that "professional" wrestling originated at carnivals.

Yes and no, wrestling was a carnival act to a point. It was generally a dude that would challenge people if anyone could beat him. The guy was usually a trained badass and would just beat the **** out of whoever accepted..that's where terms like mark came from.

After that it moved to competition with guys like Gotch and Hackenschmidt where it was presented like MMA is.

COchief 01-31-2022 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 16122122)
So, he threw the game... got it. The Broncos demolished the guy. And, since then he has been far from anything like he was prior.

He put the football on the ground and jumped away from it...

Doesn't even pretend to make an effort to grab it, watch his hands.

https://tenor.com/view/cam-newton-fu...l-gif-15167312

Mile High Mania 01-31-2022 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerinMo (Post 16122174)
They gifted you that SB cause of Manning and because you threw the SB to Seattle. When your offense hiked the ball over Mannings head on the first play. That was the signal to the Gamblers that you agreed to throw the game.

Got ya... ok, so based on what you're seeing - who wins the SB? And, for next year - who is getting paid back for their efforts and will participate in next year's SB?

Donger 01-31-2022 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16122178)
Yes and no, wrestling was a carnival act to a point. It was generally a dude that would challenge people if anyone could beat him. The guy was usually a trained badass and would just beat the **** out of whoever accepted..that's where terms like mark came from.

After that it moved to competition with guys like Gotch and Hackenschmidt where it was presented like MMA is.

So you are saying that "professional" wrestling was always rigged.

Mecca 01-31-2022 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 16122181)
Got ya... ok, so based on what you're seeing - who wins the SB? And, for next year - who is getting paid back for their efforts and will participate in next year's SB?

Rams..they did the Brady job 4 years ago...

Mile High Mania 01-31-2022 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by COchief (Post 16122179)
He put the football on the ground and jumped away from it...

Doesn't even pretend to make an effort to grab it, watch his hands.

https://tenor.com/view/cam-newton-fu...l-gif-15167312

Yes, he 'put it on the ground'...

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Mecca 01-31-2022 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 16122183)
So you are saying that "professional" wrestling was always rigged.

In the very early days of competition it wasn't rigged. But the matches lasted hours and it was boring...I forget the name but a guy figured out it'd be more exciting for the people if they rigged it, and pro wrestling was born. It was then still presented as real for a long time after.

Mile High Mania 01-31-2022 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16122185)
Rams..they did the Brady job 4 years ago...

Ok, so Denver played their role vs SEA and then 2 years later go their payback. Rams did their job 4 years ago and now they'll get their payback.

When is CAR getting their payback? I mean, there has to be some sort of payback math to work with yeah? How does that all work?

What is KC's projected payback given how Mahomes played... surely that 2nd half was a job and they set it up well with how the team played in the 2H a few weeks ago. That was superb planning, by the way... good job on not looking too obvious.

Are the Bills up next for what they allowed to happen last week in 13 seconds?

Mecca 01-31-2022 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 16122197)
Ok, so Denver played their role vs SEA and then 2 years later go their payback. Rams did their job 4 years ago and now they'll get their payback.

When is CAR getting their payback? I mean, there has to be some sort of payback math to work with yeah? How does that all work?

What is KC's projected payback given how Mahomes played... surely that 2nd half was a job and they set it up well with how the team played in the 2H a few weeks ago. That was superb planning, by the way... good job on not looking too obvious.

Are the Bills up next for what they allowed to happen last week in 13 seconds?

The Chiefs got a bowl then jobbed to Brady that's even..

Carolina doesn't have a young star QB, a HOFer at the end or a huge market...Cam Newton losing his shit derailed any of that.

Donger 01-31-2022 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16122189)
In the very early days of competition it wasn't rigged. But the matches lasted hours and it was boring...I forget the name but a guy figured out it'd be more exciting for the people if they rigged it, and pro wrestling was born. It was then still presented as real for a long time after.

And people started questioning the legitimacy of it around 1920, right?

Has the NFL always been rigged?

AdolfOliverBush 01-31-2022 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16122202)
The Chiefs got a bowl then jobbed to Brady that's even..

Carolina doesn't have a young star QB, a HOFer at the end or a huge market...Cam Newton losing his shit derailed any of that.

So you're not a Chiefs fan any more, right?

Pepe Silvia 01-31-2022 01:59 PM

The NFL works as one entity, all of the separate teams are an illusion.

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Mile High Mania 01-31-2022 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16122202)
The Chiefs got a bowl then jobbed to Brady that's even..

Carolina doesn't have a young star QB, a HOFer at the end or a huge market...Cam Newton losing his shit derailed any of that.

Ok, so KC is no longer owed anything. (mark that)
And, CAR is screwed until they get a young star QB to be good again and then when they're good again, they'll get their payback. (mark that)

Thanks... what about the Bills?

AdolfOliverBush 01-31-2022 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 16122208)
Ok, so KC is no longer owed anything. (mark that)
And, CAR is screwed until they get a young star QB to be good again and then when they're good again, they'll get their payback. (mark that)

Thanks... what about the Bills?

The Bills obviously gang-raped Goodell's mother at some point. No payback for them, ever.

Mecca 01-31-2022 02:04 PM

The Bills will get a bowl...

Donger 01-31-2022 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16122218)
The Bills will get a bowl...

Well, yeah. Most likely. Seem like a really good team. But they'll throw it, of course. Because it's rigged.

AdolfOliverBush 01-31-2022 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16122218)
The Bills will get a bowl...

But you won't watch it happen, right? Surely you can't be an NFL fan any longer, knowing what you know now.

Pepe Silvia 01-31-2022 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 16122204)
And people started questioning the legitimacy of it around 1920, right?

Has the NFL always been rigged?

Yes, the Rooney’s and the Maras started the NFL because they needed something to gamble on on Sundays.

Mile High Mania 01-31-2022 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16122218)
The Bills will get a bowl...

It's a QB driven league, so the AFC is going to see a lot of Chiefs, Bengals, Bills and Chargers for a while in these championship games.

Pepe Silvia 01-31-2022 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush (Post 16122223)
But you won't watch it happen, right? Surely you can't be an NFL fan any longer, knowing what you know now.

We know tv shows and movies are fake and we still watch.


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