I dont think its a terrible signing..but bringing in a guy who is average at best and puts himself before the team is not a move to be thrilled about....

For 10 mil he better score more than 1

Exactly what this offense needed. Especially with the way defenses will be playing us

I'd bet 4 bags of Hog jizz JuJu has more receptions than Devonte next year.

unfair LMAO

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LFG! PHYSICAL presence in the slot who runs like a back after the catch. Exactly who Veach and Andy wanted. Make teams pay for playing 2 high shell. Lets address DE and corner now to allow Veach to go BPA in the draft.

Memo to the rest of the NFL: You better not let Jameson Williams fall to the Chiefs.

Hoping we draft a stud WR that we can premier on the outside, allowing JuJu to actually work in the slot.

Hill/Rookie/JuJu/Kelce/Hardman.

He excels at the intermediate zones and short catches with blockers in front of him. He’s also a hell of a blocker from the slot and often flexes into the outside shoulder of the TE/OT to block the edge.

I’d much rather have signed Allen Robinson, because I feel he offers more consistent big play threat, but this signing helps this offense in a lot of ways and after we draft a WR this will likely be the best set of WRs Pat had had.

The thought of a healthy JW on the other end of Mahomes throws….two amazing playmakers…

I would love him at 30, if Veach can address EITHER CB/DE with what’s left in FA.

Do average players put up a 1400'yard receiving season?

And this definitely doesn't take us out of the running of drafting a WR in the top 100 picks this year. It probably makes it more likely that we will.

And if I lose am I expected to fill 4 bags of mine orrrrrrr?...

ok..ill drop some positivity..i was a Juju fan his rookie season..and doing this to get back at Burfict for his hit on AB was nice

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Smart move by Juju. It'll be interesting to see what he can do with the world's greatest QB throwing to him. He had a great year when the Rapist was healthy, and then the last couple of years were not good when he had Mason Rudolph and then got hurt.

Faster than Pringle.

Runs toward the opposing end zone unlike DRob.

Seems like an upgrade to me.

This is such a great signing!! Remember we’re getting Metcalf as well 😀

He failed as a WR1. He's not going to be asked to be that here. But he succeeded as a WR2 when Brown was on the opposite side of him and Big Ben wasn't a ****ing corpse.

WR is definitely still a need in the draft… but now the pressure to go against the historical trend and have a rookie WR make an immediate impact in Andy Reid’s offense is lessened.

Fantastic signing.

good pickup and cheap... wonder how he was talked into a 1 yr deal?

Cox goes back to the Eagles

Nope - this is a DEEP WR Draft. We'll def grab one this year.

Man look at those feet off the line in that clip.

ROUTE. RUNNER.

We finished 3rd in offensive DVOA with Mahomes worst slump of his career and Demarcus Robinson and Byron Pringle as our secondary receiving options.

Unless we have injuries this offense is going to score a lot more points

I had completely forgotten about that.

I like him a lot more, now.

Ok, so we draft a rangy, outside WR in the 3rd...Tolbert, Ross, Pierce, Watson? Every other sumbitch better be a QB killer or a ball hawking DB. Throw in one LB that can cover a TE. This D desperately needs turnovers!

I just don't want Burks going to KC.

Possible Gracie could fall in love with his personality and bank account

I’m
Kinda suprised he didn’t wait a bit a see what Cleveland would offer.

Burks it is, you will get it and you will like it!

HUGE signing. Been waiting on this for a minute. Now sign Ingram, maybe a RT, a few value guys, and on to the draft.

I feel good again.

Isn't that the guy that did the "Chocolate Rain" song?

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So just so I'm clear here...

I stated who I wanted, why I wanted them and exactly how they could be used to best effect in this offense. Simultaneously I stated exactly who I didn't want and why I did not want them.

In so doing I specifically noted that I'm not interested in spending $8-10 million on JuJu Smith-Schuster and why I felt his skills specifically were not unique or difficult to find.

And it surprises you when I'm not gung-ho about Veach's decision to do this thing that I specifically said I did NOT want to do?

It's not like I've been all "JUJU IS AWESOME!!!" and then shit on the signing. I did not want this signing. I didn't want it last year. I definitely didn't want it this year. I've provided a fair amount of explanation as to why that is the case.

For ****'s sake, stop bitching when people don't like what the Chiefs are up to. I established where I stood on this WELL before it came to fruition.

Now, gimme Jameson Williams in the first and let’s strike fear into defenses again.

Juju is a really good weapon to combat the 2 high looks. Directly and indirectly.

You pessimists are getting really hard to stomach lately..

The last time Smith-Schuster was paired with a QB who didn't have a dead arm or dead brain, was healthy, and was not a defensive focus, he put up huge numbers.

Clearly, Reid and co. see something with him that is a nice complement to current players or they would not have pursued him so hard two years in a row. I like his toughness, his route-running, and his ability to break tackles. He also has, in the past, been more than willing to do dirty work across the middle both as a blocker and route decoy.

He gives them back some of the size and physicality the Chiefs have been missing without Watkins. He's an upgrade from Pringle... how much remains to be seen.

Andy Reid is probably the best offensive mind the game has ever seen. He wanted Juju bad enough last year to personally jump on the phone to recruit this dude. Veach and Reid wanted him so badly they turned around and went after him AGAIN this year. If Andy freaking Reid wanted him Im pumped! I wouldnt be shocked if they go after another elite weapon through trade or draft as well.

You're aware that term is nothing more than an accounting measure on NFL contracts, right?

Yes, that's absolutely what I'd have preferred.

Give him a 3 year deal for, I dunno, $30 million w/ $9 million of it as a signing bonus. presumptively he's going to what that $10 million in cash this year so you give him a base salary this year of $1 million to go with the signing bonus of $9 million. You pro-rate the bonus and now this year's cap hit becomes $4 million.

Additionally you now have 2 more years to cover $20 million in salary. Year 2 has a base salary of $8 million, year 3 a base of $12 million.

So if this year he's not any good, you go ahead and cut him and accelerate the remaining $6 million onto the cap and boom - same spot you would've been on the 1 year deal. Meanwhile if he actually proves to be valuable here, you now have 'team options' at $8 million (with an $11 million cap hit) next season and then $12 million (with a $15 million cap hit or $3 million in dead money and a $12 million savings) in year 3.

Yes. Absolutely I'd prefer that structure to this one. The year 1 cap hit is better, the year 2 cap situation is identical and in the process you've created 2 potentially 'value added' seasons to the back end of the deal.

Give me one single reason why a 1 year deal is preferable to that structure.

DJ really gotta stop acting like hes better at Veachs job than Veach. Getting old quick

JFC…

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He's 25 years old. In 2018 he had 1500 yards & 7 TDs. His injury this year was a shoulder so his wheels should be fine. Physical WR that we don't really have. He's going to have a ton of incentive to go out and prove he doesn't suck. Last year Big Ben was one of the worst QBs in the league and couldn't get anyone the ball. Hell the last few years.

I would have much preferred Gallup, Chark, ARob etc - but versus Jarvis Landry this is very good.

Hes not average and this deal should work out for both parties. We get a guy who excels in the intermediate part of the field but isn't limited to just that area. He can stretch the field some, and will force the defense to not solely focus on Hill and Kelce.

He had 98 catches two years ago while Big Ben's arm was actively falling off... Plus, since he had a shoulder injury last season and missed 12 weeks, he should be ready to go health-wise. He doesn't have to be THE guy, so he should have every opportunity to excel in this offence.

It's a win-win

He's averaged 61 yards per game in his career. Extrapolate that out to a full season and you're looking at a thousand yard season.

When's the last time someone other than Hill or Kelce had a 1000 yard season?

IMO this is going to be one of those signings where we look back and go 'that shit was a steal'

Good lord, if they trade for another offensive weapon with the 29th rated pass rush, that's really going to make this offseason a failure.

How you figure?

I mean, i'm hoping for the best and all and will certainly root for him. But I'm not seeing this "cover-2 beater" shit that everyone else is.

His skill set is not particularly unique or rare. He's not a guy that requires doubles, and you could man him up with a single defender fairly consistently with success.

Blow me.

I should just pay you to be a ghost writer for me. Tried to make this point in FA thread, you did it infinitely better. As always.

The last time JuJu played in an offensive situation similar to what he’ll be in next year in KC… with a legit #1 WR, with a QB who can throw the ball downfield… was in 2018 when he had 111 receptions for 1,400+ yards receiving and 7 TD’s.

And he’s still just 25 years old.

The odds are high that JuJu won't play all 17 games.

I'm really hoping for a 1st round WR at this point. I want a REAL threat on the perimeter.

KC is a good place to go and then leave if you are a WR. Mahomes has made some money for guys like Albert Wilson and Pringle. If JuJu does well here he can get a better deal from someone else and make up whatever money he feels like he lost this year.

nice, low risk deal and we definitely needed another WR. I like it

USC boy coming to KC lol.

That was 4 years ago, my dude. I woulda loved to have Josh Gordon of 4 years ago too...but time matters as we've seen.

Still might get one.

The page long armchair GM responses freaking obnoxious. The debbie downer feedback after we sign a good young player even more irritating.

Yea, the JuJu we get is more likely to be the one from 2 years ago (831 yards 9 TDs).

In attitude I can’t disagree, but 32 was too high priced

Josh Gordon’s equivalent career season was 8 years from when he signed with the Chiefs last year… not 4 years… he is 30 years old (JuJu is 25) and Gordon has been in/out of the league/rehab facilities during that time-frame.

But otherwise it is a comparable situation.

JFC. LMAO

But I thought we were trading the 30th pick for DK… Shit.. I guess you can’t believe everything you read..

If the Chiefs somehow come away with a J.Williams, Burks, Pickens etc then this JuJu signing will look a lot sexier.

Yay, we're back (did we ever leave) of being the CP where you can't have concerns about players we sign, but you can shit on superstars when they get signed by rival teams.

Good Christ, guys. We're all going to have different opinions - and there's a ****ton of nuance on this one considering his age, the 1-year deal and his lack of consistent success. He (DJ) stated well before this signing why he didn't like the player - it's not like this is revisionist history.

With that said, I'm pretty meh on it, but also wouldn't be surprised if we revisit this thread in 365 days and some of y'all are complaining that we don't have him locked up for 2023 or later.

Then don't read 'em.

I'm sure there are plenty of "WOOOO!!!! VEACH!!" posts to occupy your time.

I reiterate - been doing it this way for a decade+ and it ain't changing. If anybody has a problem with it, they know where the ignore feature is.

And as always:

Josh Gordon was also twice the player JuJu ever was.

My point being that production from that long ago means nothing when he's been rather unspectacular since then.

Watkins was a much better player at the time of his signing with the Chiefs.

They brought in a 25-year old WR on an affordable contract and who clearly has #2 WR upside and people are still bitching.

Honestly, I think I'm done with CP for a while.

That is where Im at as well. With this being a one year deal and Hardman headed towards free agency next year it doesnt feel like they are done.

See the good news is I've got it coming and going.

Didn't want him signed BUT if we're gonna sign him, should've signed him to some actual term.

If he sucks - I'm good. Had it all along. If he's great - still good; shoulda signed him long-term.

That's how you do this shit, boys...

#lawyered

There's plenty of the opposite reactions too.

The problem with CP, like society in general, is that there's almost no room for a neutral or moderate position.

Everybody has to be lumped into camps of polar opposition so that a fight can ensue.

It's tiring.

Guck that. We can get a good DE starter at 30. Signed for 5 years if they are great instead of 4 in later rounds.

I can't speak for DJ, but it seems like this is the breaking point.

Some believe he has that upside, some don't.

And I have a feeling that Juju wasn't looking for something long term. He wants a prove it deal where he can actually, you know, prove it this time.

Yes I realize that in your eyes that means we shouldn't have signed him.

Just saying....a long term deal has to have two sides to it.

What's wrong with just waiting and seeing how he does before we pass judgement either way?

JuJu’s career season: 111 receptions, 1,426 yards receiving, 7 TD’s.

Gordon’s career season: 87 receptions, 1,646 yards receiving, 9 TD’s.

Gordon’s career season was 8 years removed, and countless failed drug tests/suspensions from when he signed with the Chiefs.

JuJu’s career season is 4 years ago.

Gordon is 30, JuJu is 25.

Because he’s really good finding soft spots in zones, sitting down and then getting RAC with the ball in his hands. He also has reliable hands (69% career catch rate of overall targets to catches) so he helps move the chains on the long drives we’re become accustomed to since every team drops 2 deep safeties to combat the long TDs.

Exactly. Veach isn’t in or out on JuJu. Maybe it’s the injury history. Maybe his attitude? See how he fits in the locker room? Who knows but Veach.

So is banging Direkshun's whore mother and yet I persevere...

There's legitimate concerns about the player.

I'm glad the Chiefs made a move here as the cupboard was barren. I can see him as a piece. Just not "The piece".

They still need a legitimate threat to pair with Hill to make this group "Legion of Zoom" scary again.

Im holding out hope that they view JuJu as a piece of the puzzle for what is a complete WR room overhaul, including a high end draft pick.

Came back for Ben's last year.

What's the fun in riding the fence on an internet chat board?

I'm not interested in someone that puts their hand out the window and tells me its raining.

Ain't any money on this one, fellas - state your case and see if you're right.

I'm right more than I'm wrong. But I'm wrong with some frequency. Doesn't bother me any.

Shooters gonna shoot...