donks, dolts & faiders are downtrodden troglodytes. A pox on all their houses (caves)! Those 3 teams have been beaten down for so long that they have no idea how to overtake the Chiefs as Division champions.

Chiefs hold firm at #1 in the AFC West.

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Chiefs are #1 in the division until someone takes their place.

I'm tired of hearing the Patriots comparison; there is no comparison to that era of football because the AFC Best is not the AFC Least. For twenty years, no team in the Least ever put up much of a fight (ok, the Jets for two years) and was absolute trash.

I actually think this will be good for the Chiefs and Mahomes; maybe plays will actually develop and it won't be **** it, chuck it to Tyreek.

There's too many good players and the NFL rules have been changing to allow more scoring. We all knew this time was coming, like Kelce will be retiring in a few years, so it's best to just accept it and move on.

When was the last time you saw a player in the NFL get upset because a fan changed jobs?

This is a pointless thread at this point. The off-season just started. Ton's of FA's still out there. Chiefs have cap space and a shit load of ammunition to trade/draft.

Ask again right before the season. I think they will be better because of the trade.

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Tag and trade. Didn't we do that with Ford? Didn't the Seahawks do that to us with Clark? :shrug::

Vitriol? Really??? You sure you know the definition?

Hill told the Chiefs he would sit out next year without a new contract. Now I guess they could've called his bluff but everyone would be roasting Veach if that scenario played out and he got nothing.

I think KC still has a legitimate chance of finishing in the top 3.

the talking clowns on ESPN has the Chiefs 4th in AFCW..:hmmm:

Yeah, their not done adding players yet and they still have Mahomes.

Chiefs sign Hill to the $30 million/year.... the same bitches bitch about the contract and cap, bitch every time he drops a pass, bitch if he gets hurt, bitch if he runs a route wrong or fumbles.

Chiefs trade him... see last 24 hours of bitching.

Hill holds out... like you said, more bitching.

Chiefs trade for another #1 receiver to big money... bitching that it's a desperation move.

Chiefs draft a receiver and don't sign a #1... bitching that it's a full rebuild year.

Real Housewives of CP post here dude.

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Its also interesting that the same clowns who are screaming the highest about Hill also are the owns who still bitch about Kareem Hunt not being here.

See, it seems you think of 'bitching' as some collective enterprise everyone but you is engaging in comprehensively.

You transform the reality of the world that there's always going to be someone who bitches about something, into a narrative that everyone but Bearcat is always bitching about everything.

Got someone in mind, or just generalized aspersions?

The biggest Hunt table pounder looks to me to be Pitt Gorilla, and I haven't seen his grumble once about the Hill situation . . .

Guys, it's MARCH.

We have more cap space than anyone else now.

We have 8 picks in the first four rounds of the draft.

We have Patrick Mahomes.

We have Andy Reid.

It's going to be okay. Veach knocked last year's draft outta the park. He does that again and we're going to be set for the near future.

When you have a GOAT level QB, You don't overpay guys. It's how BB stayed on top for two decades. This is the Way.

We're going to be fine. Have fun with it these next few weeks. Run mock drafts. Scour the league for FA's. Consider trade scenarios. Trust that Veach and Reid will put a contender on the field. It's going to be fun, it's going to be different, but it's going to be okay.

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And this is where you take what I said --- "the same bitches bitch", which is very clearly a subset of "everyone" -- and create an alternate opinion for me.... "some collective enterprise everyone" and that "the same bitches" actually transform "someone" into "everyone but Bearcat".... and then a step further "about everything".

And if this is like how it's always been, you would then take some completely innocent comment that could be completely unrelated to the topic and make some crazy passive aggressive "yOu'Re SuPpOsEd tO bE hApPy AbOuT eVeRyThInG!", just building off this strawman that you've created for your own arguments sake.

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Dude, you accused 'them' of being a national embarrassment to the entire board and entire franchise, and then you explicitly lumped me in for reasonable criticism.

Hiding behind a passive-aggressive strategy of 'I didn't say EVERYBODY everybody, I just complain about it constantly and bitterly and personally,' isn't a winning look.

You don't want me pushing back on your [non-existent] campaign against any [perceived] naysaying, don't hike on your jackboots and jump throats at every naysayer you perceive every time you see them.

You should just go ahead and ban him and get it over with.

Did you lose mod power?

It wouldn’t surprise me the ones bitching about him leaving are the same ones who wanted to cut him when he was improperly accused by his ex.

No, but Bearcat has been known to ban people just for disagreeing with him.

We're on eggshells in the mod lounge.

It would be a bad beach day in St Petersburg before I'd let someone disagree with me and get away with it.

Ban or not, LAST. We have had an INCREDIBLE run winning the AFC West numerous years in a row and hosting 4, count that, 4 AFCCG in a row - incredible! Back to Back SB appearances and won 1 after 50 years of dormancy. I will welcome this 1 year setback as long as Veach pulls the draft of drafts out of his ass this year and next to put us back in the black. It is time for him to infuse youth and Reid as well as Spags to take advantage of it.

It's going to be a fun regular season with the Raiders, Broncos and Chargers loading up for a quick run.

I'm interested in seeing how good Mahomes is without Hill and after his mini-breakdown in the second half of the Bengals game. He did not react well to whatever happened at halftime.

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Russ is in decline in a system that won't maximize him.



And here we are....

and their o-line is still questionable. Everyone thinks Boles is fixed but he just had an easier schedule last year. Watch Mr. Hold return !!LMAO

The preseason magazines will be fun to read.


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This is idiotic. Everyone knows the Chargers will win it all.

THANK GOD COLIN DIDN"T PICK CHIEFS


OMG I feel good now. I don't think he has ever been right and every time he doubts Andy Reid he is wrong.

Last time I checked it was 1st place for 72 months. That equals 6 years for some of you reruns

The Chiefs are tied for first place right now.

Don’t bother looking for the Chiefs. [emoji1787]

Is this como’s list? [emoji848]

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What's the source on this?

I'm so tired of the hot takes man. I know I shit talk the guy but I really hope Veach kills the draft and we shut everyone up this year.

The disrespect to Mahomes and Reid is insane.

AFC West: Power Ranking the Four Teams After a Wild NFL Offseason
by Matthew Wadleigh


The NFL offseason hasn’t taken a break since the Super Bowl ended. Aaron Rodgers returned to the Green Bay Packers, Tom Brady retired, then unretired, Deshaun Watson and Russell Wilson got traded, and the list continues. One of the most active divisions in free agency and the trade market was the AFC West.

The Kansas City Chiefs, Las Vegas Raiders, Los Angeles Chargers, and Denver Broncos all have a ton of new faces, and some watched familiar faces leave for new opportunities. The ripple effect in the AFC West should make for an exciting race in 2022 and beyond after years of Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs entering as the favorites.

Yet, here we are, just a couple of weeks away from the NFL Draft, and the entire landscape of the division has shifted dramatically. Let’s rank the AFC West after a flurry of acquisitions by every one of the four teams.

1. Los Angeles Chargers

Key Additions: Khalil Mack, J.C. Jackson, Sebastian Joseph-Day, Gerald Everett, Austin Johnson

Key Departures: Uchenna Nwosu, Justin Jones, Kyzir White

The Chargers have been one of the biggest winners in the entire NFL this offseason. They brought back wide receiver Mike Williams on a three-year deal and engineered a brilliant trade for Chicago Bears pass rusher Khalil Mack.

In doing so, they have formed one of the best pass-rushing duos in the NFL with Mack and Joey Bosa. If that weren’t enough, they landed the best cornerback on the market in J.C. Jackson and added depth on the defensive line with the other two.

Gerald Everett is a massive upgrade over aging veteran Jared Cook, and the Chargers still have the 17th overall pick in the draft to add another key piece.

To sum it up, the Chargers brought in a ton of weapons and addressed their biggest needs on defense while keeping Williams in town and adding a quality tight end. On top of that, they haven’t lost much this offseason, and Mack essentially replaces Nwosu on the edge.

The Chargers missed the playoffs last year, thanks to the Raiders edging them out in a thrilling Week 18 game. But make no mistake, this team is going all-in for a Super Bowl run, and they are expected to be the top contender in the AFC West and can even make a run for the entire conference if things go their way.


2. Kansas City Chiefs

Key Additions: JuJu Smith-Schuster, Ronald Jones, Justin Reid, Marquez Valdes-Scantling

Key Departures: Tyreek Hill, Tyrann Mathieu, Austin Blythe, Charvarius Ward, Byron Pringle, Demarcus Robinson

The Kansas City Chiefs can quickly go from the AFC West division winners in 2021 to the bottom of the division in 2022. That is how topsy-turvy this division is.

The loss of Tyreek Hill is a massive one for them, and they also saw wide receivers Demarcus Robinson and Byron Pringle leave. But, they brought in JuJu Smith-Schuster and Marquez Valdes-Scantling in a revamped WR room, so there is some hope.

The Chiefs also let Tyrann Mathieu walk, and he remains unsigned as of March 31. Justin Reid is an excellent replacement for Mathieu, but losing him, Hill, and Charvarius Ward in the same offseason are tough losses.

Nonetheless, it is hard to count against a team that still has Mahomes and Travis Kelce, not to mention a defense that was much improved down the stretch in 2021. Until Mahomes slows down, the Chiefs will be competitive, but the loss of Hill is more than enough to kick them out of the top spot of this division — and it could derail them altogether.


3. Denver Broncos

Key Additions: Russell Wilson, Randy Gregory, Alex Singleton

Key Departures: Noah Fant, Shelby Harris

The Broncos missed out on Rodgers but wasted no time acquiring Wilson in a massive trade with the Seattle Seahawks. For years, Denver has been playing quarterback hot potato, and they finally solved those issues by landing Wilson.

That is a massive get, and bringing on Randy Gregory is a significant addition for their defense, even if the contract is a little questionable.

Those moves are enormous bonuses, but the Broncos still have question marks. How will Wilson fit in with first-year head coach Nathaniel Hackett? How will the wide receivers in Denver perform?

All three of Courtland Sutton, Jerry Jeudy, and Tim Patrick have been on and off during their NFL careers, although a large part of that could be due to the quarterback limbo in the Mile High City.

It is also worth noting that Wilson is coming off a hand injury that bothered him a ton in his final year with the Seahawks, although he should be ready to roll with new threads for the first time in his career.

The Broncos are making the playoffs, assuming everything goes as planned, and could be on top of this division.


4. Las Vegas Raiders

Key Additions: Davante Adams, Chandler Jones, Brandon Bolden, Rock Ya-Sin, Demarcus Robinson

Key Departures: Yannick Ngakoue, Zay Jones, Alec Ingold, Casey Hayward, Brandon Facyson, Cory Littleton, Marcus Mariota

The Raiders might be a surprise at this spot on the rankings. But, let’s explain.

The blockbuster trade of Davante Adams was a stunning move for the entire NFL, and the reunion of Derek Carr and Adams is a welcomed sight. The former Fresno State pairing finally gets to play together in the NFL and hopefully for a long time, if Carr and the Raiders can ink a long-term deal.

The addition of Chandler Jones is a big one, and pairing him with Maxx Crosby is a dangerous duo. Rock Ya-Sin was an excellent trade acquisition, and Brandon Bolden is a solid change of pace back familiar with Josh McDaniels’ system.

However, the Raiders have failed to address their most pressing need: the offensive line.

The Raiders don’t have a first or second-round pick due to the Adams trade, and there is no question they need help upfront to protect Carr. That is a significant concern, and the secondary in Las Vegas is also somewhat of a problem. There is no doubt the offense got better with the addition of Adams, but the patchy offensive line might be a troubling factor in Sin City.

On the other hand, the Raiders have a path to another playoff trip, and who knows, this looks more and more like three teams make the playoffs from the AFC West.


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I’ve been to the beach in St Petersburg many times.... NEVER had a bad day there.



You in my county??

Josh McClown has a losing record as HC and Derek MasCarra has a losing record in the NFL and they have them 8 ROFL


Andy Reid has yet to have a losing season in Kansas City and I don't see us losing the division this year after 6 in a row why would they not count the Chiefs but I love it when they don't and then we finish on top.


Chargers win the offseason yet again. They will have the best draft too!

It may be a little disrespectful to Mahomes and Reid but it is certainly disrespectful to Brett Veach. If you exclude the draft, this is not a crazy ranking of teams since the Chiefs have lost more than Tyreek Hill.

The flaw in this ranking and several others is the Chiefs have a boatload of picks due to the Tyreek Hill trade and 2 out of the 3 other AFC West teams don't even come close in terms of their draft capital.

Raiders don't even have a pick until the 3rd round. I'd be very surprised if the Raiders finish above the Chiefs.
Chargers have 17th pick of first round but after that, their collection of picks is not nearly as good as the Chiefs.

Outside of KC, Denver despite not having a first round pick this year probably has the best collection of picks among AFC West teams heading into the draft.

Chiefs still deserve to be considered AFC west favorites

Until training camps starts and they lose 9 starters to injuries. :doh!:

We are better than last year, I'm 99% sure unless something happens to Patrick we are the team to beat next year, zero doubt about it.

I would bet 5k that the chiefs have a better record than the dolphins!!! Ho$y Hell...LOL

How?

On paper you simply cannot make this claim.

ROFL

That power ranking list is comical.

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The definition of insanity… jumping on the Chargers bandwagon every year, JFC.

If they keep saying it year, after year, after year.... eventually the prediction will come true.

Dang. I just don't see that at this point

Yep. But I get why KC is not there. I also get why some put them last in the West.. I'd put them 3rd as of right now. But still a ways to go this off season.

AFC West is capable of being won by any of the teams... I will pencil in KC right now because they are the defending west champs...

Barring injury any team can win it but I do believe all teams will be much better against teams outside the west. Winning the west is great but the Raiders actually beat every team in the west and still didn't make the playoffs when Hue Daddy was coach. Who has the hardest schedule next year?

We have like 40% of a roster right now. I think you could argue where the other 3 teams might land with KC getting an "Incomplete" grade until they have enough bodies to field a team.

Sounds about right.

You think drafting a bunch of rookies to fill out that 60% is going to push them over the top? And the other teams are going to pick players too...

I think it's going to help them fill a roster.

The quality of which we can argue afterwards...

That's pretty concisely where I'm at.

Difference being, Chief's injury situation is an on/off switch. Healthy Mahomes and we can line up something to compete [virtually] no matter what. Dinged or sidelined Mahomes, and there's not much to make us competitive for an entire season on the merit of non-Mahomes talent and effort.

Everyone in the AFCW, Chiefs included, have a new vision of how to compete that, if everything goes their way, is favorable to their prospects.

We still have the cheat code at QB, but we as Chiefs fans have to adjust our expectations from confidence to hope. Because we are hoping our advantages endure, but those advantages will in many ways be new and different from previous advantages and only direct observation will transform hope to evidence. . .

Chiefs have the edge because of the tenure of the coaching staff I think... barring injury

Andy Reid is still the best coach in the division. Patrick Mahomes is still the best QB in the division. That alone means we won’t finish last.

The Broncos and Raiders added players but still have massive holes on their team. The Raiders OL is really questionable especially on the right side. Leatherwood isn’t a RT. And their secondary was terrible last year. They didn’t do much to fix it.

The Broncos lost Fangio and still have a weak right side of their OL. Their TE is weaker, their pass rush is nothing special, their LB’s got destroyed by Kelce and their secondary aside from Simmons and Surtain is very vulnerable.

Did I mention the Raiders/Broncos both have no picks in the 1st rd?

Chargers are the biggest threat bc they have the 2nd best QB and right now the most talented roster, but will they Charger it up again?

Chiefs have holes but will likely be getting Bradberry and bring Ingram back while having tons of early draft picks to supplement creating a rotation. Need see what we do first

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Much of this list won't age well. Bengals first place schedule and a division where everyone plays everyone tough means they are least likely to merit this place by the end of the year. Bills are going to get ball-licked until they finally make the Super Bowl. I'm fine with them being at the top. 49ers are an odd choice in that spot...Trey Lance is far less of a known commodity than Jimmy G. - who isn't great, but knows how to manage a game. Power rankings...blegh.

"First place schedule" = Chiefs, Titans, Cowboys... big woop.

There's a lot of garbage there.

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Lol, this is the time of they they try to make other teams feel good about themselves.

OK

We're tied for 1st place! Lighten up.

Hardest schedule: anyone who plays the Chiefs twice...

Como has been surprisingly quiet since the draft...

They're in the same spot they've been for the past 1,949 days: on top of the AFC West, looking down at everyone else.

Some teams improved more during the early rounds of free agency. No AFC West team improved more on draft day, and none will improve more between now and the season.

I wonder how Dorsey’s draft fared this year. You know… for that team… of which he’s the GM

The 49ers & Donkos shocked me.


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It is being overlooked how inconsistent Buffalo was during the regular season last year, including Josh Allen... against a weak schedule.

They lost to Jacksonville, and Josh Allen looked like shit. They struggled to beat a bad Atlanta team at home towards the end of the season and Josh Allen looked like shit. And of course they lost at home to a Faketriots team that only passed the ball three times.

Yes Josh Allen was great in their two playoff games (one of which was a loss)... but can they sustain that over the duration of an entire season against a tougher schedule in 2022?

Chiefs have a few breakdowns in the secondary, yet still win the game, and the takeaway is that the Bills are the greatest team of all time.

Now if we're talking odds to get the 1 seed, I'd put them at the top because they'll have a much easier schedule.

Let's be serious. How many years in a row is that for the Chargers?

Chargers are the off-season GOAT


K Mack played 6 games last year then went out with a foot injury and had foot surgery I don't know the status of his foot how well he will do but I've heard from Bears fans that they were happy to get rid of him for picks.

I think our offensive line is going be better than any defensive line and will dominate the trenches so our offense is going be way better and we got some good talent at WR that can step it up and move the ball around we will be set.

Our defense pretty much countered anything the other teams upgraded at granted a bunch of rookies but they will be better than what we had before except the loss of Ward. We've won games without Ttyreek he wasn't the team and the team isn't one player except unless that player is Patrick Mahomes .

At least the reasoning is somewhat legit this time.

THANK YOU. Buffalo is very good, but the national media completely disregards any weakness that they show.

They were the 4 seed in 2020 and got blown out by KC in the AFC title game after being gifted wins in the first two rounds. They managed only the 3 seed in 2021 despite one of the easiest schedules in football, and really only managed the 3 seed after rattling off wins against the Jets, etc. after starting 7-5.

They’re offensive ceiling is high, but they’re very erratic and won most of their games last year behind a defense shutting down bad offenses (they were average against good offenses). Don’t think their defense is that spectacularly talented, though solid. Still feel like they’re a level below KC, but the national media narrative has spiraled so far in the positive direction that many have come to believe they’re the greatest team ever assembled. Would not be surprised if they don’t win a super bowl during this window.


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Which team has 15 and Big Red?

People who believe the Chiefs will win the Super Bowl = People who are smart, handsome, and epic

People who believe the Chiefs won’t win the Super Bowl = Pussy ass bitches with teeny peepees

49ers(10-7), Pats(10-7) and Bills(11-6) all tied for the 12th easiest schedule

We stand atop the division, until the crown is taken. Barring a significant injury to 15, or a rash of injuries across the board, KC will handily win the west again and host a home playoff game.

I understand a tiny bit of trepidation, given that KC has been no less than contending for the AFC title for four straight years, and battered fan syndrome creeps in and whispers " You can't possibly keep this up. You had your window. 4 straight AFC title games and you got 1 Lombardi out of it. Despair!! Despair ye dregs of Chiefs Kingdom, for your return to mediocrity is at hand!!"

With the departure of Hill, the battered fan syndrome voice is ruling out logic and reason entirely for some. (See Chiefsplanet user TEX for example)

It's like they are completely unaware that the off-season darling for the superbowl every season, the LA Chargers, are still coached by Brandon Staley. A man who willingly handicaps himself by banning his kickers from playing in the game. A man who sees a team clearly playing for a tie that would send both teams to the playoffs, jumps in and fist****s himself, taking a timeout and inspiring the Raiders to find their tiny little ballsacs, and go ahead and win the game.

Broncos bring in a washed up Russel Wilson, while at the same time firing the guy thar made the most of the strength of the team, the defense.

The Raiders have Josh McDaniels. Is there a bigger joke running? This guy sucked when he coached Denver, and bitched out of an opportunity to coach the Colts after agreeing to the job.


I'm sorry, but anyone looking at the AFC west and placing any team besides Mahomes and the Chiefs at the top has some personal bias against KC, has serious personal issues (again, see TEX), or is just a good old fashioned butt ****ing moron.