Get a 5th back and I’m ok.

3rd for Laviska and a 5th would be good value.

I'd give a 7th for him, maybe 6th. Nothing more.

OK Chris Ballard.

I’d throw in Josh Gordon with a full off-season

It’s a packers article but interesting.

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/202...wn-wr-problem/

Flip them a fourth and move on

Quit bumping this thread, dammit - I keep thinking we finally sealed the deal lol.

It is pretty funny that all the Jags are …well….. Jags.


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Yeah this. I think you could squeeze that out.


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Same here.

Absolutely!

COME ON BRETCH!!!!!!!!

The Kansas City Chiefs are exploring the trade market for a wide receiver and Seattle Seahawks star DK Metcalf seems to be emerging as a potential target for the Super Bowl contender.

Metcalf, frequently floated in NFL trade rumors, finds himself at a pivotal point in Seattle. The Seahawks are in a transition, shifting to a more run-heavy offense that fits what Pete Carroll wants. With uncertainty at quarterback and Tyler Lockett under a long-term deal, it’s possible Metcalf could be moved.

Carroll recently told 93.9 KJR that the franchise wants Metcalf to be a part of its long-term core. However, the young offensive weapon also wants to be one of the highest paid receivers in the NFL. Given the direction Seattle is headed, that might not align with the club’s long-term goals.

With that in mind, let’s examine how the Kansas City Chiefs could acquire DK Metcalf and what kind of impact he would have on their offense.

The starting point for any blockbuster trade involving a star wide receiver is a first-round pick. The Green Bay Packers and Kansas City Cheifs received first- and second-round picks for Davante Adams and Tyreek Hill. While Metcalf isn’t on that level as a player, his age is a significant boost for his trade value.

Seattle would start negotiations by requiring the 29th overall pick in the 2022 NFL Draft, real negotiations begin after that. While the club might push for the inclusion of a second-round pick, Metcalf being regarded as a tier below the elite receivers in the NFL likely means Kansas City gives up other picks.

Seattle Seahawks receive: 29th overall pick, 94th overall pick, 2023 conditional fourth-round pick

Kansas City Chiefs receive: DK Metcalf

The conditions on the fourth-round pick can be determined off Metcalf’s roster status for the 2023 season. If he is still with Kansas City in Week 1 of the regular season, it becomes a third-round pick. Otherwise, the Chiefs send their 2024 fourth-round pick to Seattle.

From the Seahawks’ perspective, picking up a first-round pick in a deep class allows them to continue their rebuild. Keep in mind, Seattle could trade down from the 9th pick to truly create a stronger collection of top-100 picks.

Kansas City is confident that Marquez Valdes-Scantling can step in and become a vertical threat for the passing attack. He offers better size than Hill, but no one is expecting him to replicate anything close to the production.

However, the Chiefs want to build a deeper receiving corps. Signing Valdes-Scantling and JuJu Smith-Schuster only plays a small part in that. Andy Reid knows he needs to find another go-to target for Patrick Mahomes, a playmaker in critical situations.

DK Metcalf’s last two season stats for 2020-’21:
158 receptions, 2,270 receiving yards, 14.4 ypc, 22 touchdowns.

Metcalf finished with the third-most deep targets (30) per game and ranked sixth in air yards (1,605).

Keep in mind, Geno Smith started multiple games.

Because of poor quarterback play and Wilson throwing with a finger injury, Metcalf led the NFL in unrealized air yards (940).

That wouldn’t be a worry with Mahomes. He posted the fifth-highest passer rating (113.3), per Pro Football Focus, on throws 20-plus yards downfield in 2021. A year prior, Mahomes posted a 13-2 TD-INT ratio on deep throws.

Adding Metcalf wouldn’t be about trying to replicate what Hill did. Instead, Reid would redesign his offense. Given how deep the Chiefs’ receiving corps would be, the offense would likely be even better in 2022.

Kansas City can’t replace what Hill forced defenses to do against it in the past four seasons. However, it can adapt to the modern NFL with an even more dangerous passing attack that causes headaches for defensive backs and defensive coordinators.


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Yes please

What does this have to do with Shenault?

It would seem strange to me to get picks for Hill with the additional goal of saving money only to send several of those picks to get a guy we'll soon have to spend most of the money we saved on.

That move would seem like a no-brainer. I’m surprised the Seahawks wouldn’t ask for more

Depends on the cost. Is DK worth say 80% of what Hill would have cost? Can you lock him up after this season for $21MM a year?

Frankly I want a young rookie WR but who knows. Cap $ is all about timing. DK is running a year behind Hill I think so more cap space for KC later? I'm just spit balling here.

This would be flipping Hill for DK, some cap space pushed down the road and a few more picks. :shrug:

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Source?

The Kansas City Chiefs are exploring the trade market for a wide receiver and Seattle Seahawks star DK Metcalf seems to be emerging as a potential target for the Super Bowl contender.

Metcalf, frequently floated in NFL trade rumors, finds himself at a pivotal point in Seattle. The Seahawks are in a transition, shifting to a more run-heavy offense that fits what Pete Carroll wants. With uncertainty at quarterback and Tyler Lockett under a long-term deal, it’s possible Metcalf could be moved.

Carroll recently told 93.9 KJR that the franchise wants Metcalf to be a part of its long-term core. However, the young offensive weapon also wants to be one of the highest paid receivers in the NFL. Given the direction Seattle is headed, that might not align with the club’s long-term goals.

With that in mind, let’s examine how the Kansas City Chiefs could acquire DK Metcalf and what kind of impact he would have on their offense.

The starting point for any blockbuster trade involving a star wide receiver is a first-round pick. The Green Bay Packers and Kansas City Cheifs received first- and second-round picks for Davante Adams and Tyreek Hill. While Metcalf isn’t on that level as a player, his age is a significant boost for his trade value.

Seattle would start negotiations by requiring the 29th overall pick in the 2022 NFL Draft, real negotiations begin after that. While the club might push for the inclusion of a second-round pick, Metcalf being regarded as a tier below the elite receivers in the NFL likely means Kansas City gives up other picks.

Seattle Seahawks receive: 29th overall pick, 94th overall pick, 2023 conditional fourth-round pick

Kansas City Chiefs receive: DK Metcalf

The conditions on the fourth-round pick can be determined off Metcalf’s roster status for the 2023 season. If he is still with Kansas City in Week 1 of the regular season, it becomes a third-round pick. Otherwise, the Chiefs send their 2024 fourth-round pick to Seattle.

From the Seahawks’ perspective, picking up a first-round pick in a deep class allows them to continue their rebuild. Keep in mind, Seattle could trade down from the 9th pick to truly create a stronger collection of top-100 picks.

Kansas City is confident that Marquez Valdes-Scantling can step in and become a vertical threat for the passing attack. He offers better size than Hill, but no one is expecting him to replicate anything close to the production.

However, the Chiefs want to build a deeper receiving corps. Signing Valdes-Scantling and JuJu Smith-Schuster only plays a small part in that. Andy Reid knows he needs to find another go-to target for Patrick Mahomes, a playmaker in critical situations.

DK Metcalf’s last two season stats for 2020-’21:
158 receptions, 2,270 receiving yards, 14.4 ypc, 22 touchdowns.

Metcalf finished with the third-most deep targets (30) per game and ranked sixth in air yards (1,605).

Keep in mind, Geno Smith started multiple games.

Because of poor quarterback play and Wilson throwing with a finger injury, Metcalf led the NFL in unrealized air yards (940).

That wouldn’t be a worry with Mahomes. He posted the fifth-highest passer rating (113.3), per Pro Football Focus, on throws 20-plus yards downfield in 2021. A year prior, Mahomes posted a 13-2 TD-INT ratio on deep throws.

Adding Metcalf wouldn’t be about trying to replicate what Hill did. Instead, Reid would redesign his offense. Given how deep the Chiefs’ receiving corps would be, the offense would likely be even better in 2022.

Kansas City can’t replace what Hill forced defenses to do against it in the past four seasons. However, it can adapt to the modern NFL with an even more dangerous passing attack that causes headaches for defensive backs and defensive coordinators.

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The Kansas City Chiefs are exploring the trade market for a wide receiver and Seattle Seahawks star DK Metcalf seems to be emerging as a potential target for the Super Bowl contender.

Metcalf, frequently floated in NFL trade rumors, finds himself at a pivotal point in Seattle. The Seahawks are in a transition, shifting to a more run-heavy offense that fits what Pete Carroll wants. With uncertainty at quarterback and Tyler Lockett under a long-term deal, it’s possible Metcalf could be moved.

Carroll recently told 93.9 KJR that the franchise wants Metcalf to be a part of its long-term core. However, the young offensive weapon also wants to be one of the highest paid receivers in the NFL. Given the direction Seattle is headed, that might not align with the club’s long-term goals.

With that in mind, let’s examine how the Kansas City Chiefs could acquire DK Metcalf and what kind of impact he would have on their offense.

The starting point for any blockbuster trade involving a star wide receiver is a first-round pick. The Green Bay Packers and Kansas City Cheifs received first- and second-round picks for Davante Adams and Tyreek Hill. While Metcalf isn’t on that level as a player, his age is a significant boost for his trade value.

Seattle would start negotiations by requiring the 29th overall pick in the 2022 NFL Draft, real negotiations begin after that. While the club might push for the inclusion of a second-round pick, Metcalf being regarded as a tier below the elite receivers in the NFL likely means Kansas City gives up other picks.

Seattle Seahawks receive: 29th overall pick, 94th overall pick, 2023 conditional fourth-round pick

Kansas City Chiefs receive: DK Metcalf

The conditions on the fourth-round pick can be determined off Metcalf’s roster status for the 2023 season. If he is still with Kansas City in Week 1 of the regular season, it becomes a third-round pick. Otherwise, the Chiefs send their 2024 fourth-round pick to Seattle.

From the Seahawks’ perspective, picking up a first-round pick in a deep class allows them to continue their rebuild. Keep in mind, Seattle could trade down from the 9th pick to truly create a stronger collection of top-100 picks.

Kansas City is confident that Marquez Valdes-Scantling can step in and become a vertical threat for the passing attack. He offers better size than Hill, but no one is expecting him to replicate anything close to the production.

However, the Chiefs want to build a deeper receiving corps. Signing Valdes-Scantling and JuJu Smith-Schuster only plays a small part in that. Andy Reid knows he needs to find another go-to target for Patrick Mahomes, a playmaker in critical situations.

DK Metcalf’s last two season stats for 2020-’21:
158 receptions, 2,270 receiving yards, 14.4 ypc, 22 touchdowns.

Metcalf finished with the third-most deep targets (30) per game and ranked sixth in air yards (1,605).

Keep in mind, Geno Smith started multiple games.

Because of poor quarterback play and Wilson throwing with a finger injury, Metcalf led the NFL in unrealized air yards (940).

That wouldn’t be a worry with Mahomes. He posted the fifth-highest passer rating (113.3), per Pro Football Focus, on throws 20-plus yards downfield in 2021. A year prior, Mahomes posted a 13-2 TD-INT ratio on deep throws.

Adding Metcalf wouldn’t be about trying to replicate what Hill did. Instead, Reid would redesign his offense. Given how deep the Chiefs’ receiving corps would be, the offense would likely be even better in 2022.

Kansas City can’t replace what Hill forced defenses to do against it in the past four seasons. However, it can adapt to the modern NFL with an even more dangerous passing attack that causes headaches for defensive backs and defensive coordinators.

Where you reading this from??

I don't think Metcalf fits the Reid offense that well but hes an elite WR so obviously if u can get him at the right deal I guess you consider it. Dont understand why they wouldn't just want to keep Tyreek though if you went that direction though.

****ing moron posts this in the Shenault thread and can’t even provide a link.

No way should we trade a first and 2 thirds for DK Metcalf.

The max I’d send would be pick 30 alone. If that’s not enough, on to the draft we go.

Never thought this idea of trading for Metcalf made all that much sense but holy ****ing shit is there a ton of smoke around the concept.

Here’s the link. Pure speculation.

https://sportsnaut.com/dk-metcalf-ka...ty-chiefs/amp/

Probably just talking heads talking.

Andy configures his offense to his players. He used to be a screen/WCO offense type guy. But how often have we seen the screen game be a major part of the offense since we’ve had Mahomes? Andy has never had a quarterback like Patrick. I honestly wish we had used more screens in the last few years. It would be DEADLY with the skill players we had. Reek, and Hardman would have had even more RAC with the screen game. Hell, I want/wanted to see a LOT more Clyde screens. He was dominant at in in college, and is barely used in that manor. Andy would design lots of plays to get Metcalf the ball, but he’s gonna want to get paid too. Hard to find a happy medium because Andy doesn’t play rookie receivers much, and we just got rid of an elite receiver who wanted to get paid.

Now give me Deebo.....

Rather trade a day 2 pick or later for Shenault or just draft a WR in the first. DK will eventually bust the bank just like Tyreek. Still need DL, DB and LB help. Trading away multiple picks for DK on a position we have already addressed twice for what could very well be a one year rental. I can't see how managing picks in that manner is responsible.

A trade and sign would have to be a team friendly, incentive laden or back loaded deal. No way the Chiefs can pay DK the price he would command if they weren't willing to do that with Tyreek.

Look who posted it. He’s a ****ing reerun.

Is SF even interested in dealing him?

Doubtful, but.... did you think KC was interested in dealing Reek before 3 weeks ago? This offseason is BONKERS!!! Give Andy the 5th stone (Deebo) and watch us destroy the league with the snap of Patrick’s finger!!

Spend our top draft picks on D line and pass rushers trade up for one if need be but get a tall WR in later rounds that can just catch touchdowns in the End Zone. Our offense will move the ball up and down the field but we need a guy that can out leap defenders and take focus off of Kelce. We have speed WRs that can take it to the house we need a possession WR that can out leap DBs

First again beef up the D line and pass rushers then worry about WR.

On DK, no thanks, really good player but he's going to be very expensive soon

No, they're not

Hell yeah bro!

Didn’t DK already say he didn’t want to go to KC…?

I'd trade a 3rd round pick for some of the reeruns in this thread to off themselves Chiefsfan123456-style

DK will likely come in cheaper than Tyreek, he's younger by 4 years and the Chiefs may be willing to spend on him NEXT offseason, when Clark comes off the books and Brown has his contract settled. Especially with the Cap expected to explode.

No please, the price is basically what you gave up for Hill with the draft picks and Cap space when you sign the extension.

Uhhhh how so?

Look at it this way. These are his stats in three seasons with the run first Seahawks.

2019 - 900 yards and 7 TDs
2020 - 1303 yards and 10 TDs
2021 - 967 yards and 12 TDs

Great, right? Now put him in this offense like everyone wants. What do you think his stats are going to be? Hill had 1239 yards and 9 TDs last year. 1276 yards and 15 TDs the year before that.

If Metcalf has around 1250 yards and 12 TDs....he's for sure going to want to be paid like a top 3 WR. He'll be 25 years old and in a high scoring offense. Plus he knows that he'll get paid someplace else if it isn't here.

He could EASILY get paid like Hopkins or Adams.

Really neat that DK Metcalf changed his name to Shenault and stuff.

I thought this guy was gonna really ascend in 2021. I wanted to grab him in my fantasy league. I'm glad someone else took him before I could...

I thought he was faster than he is. He's got 4.55 speed and I thought he was a 4.3 guy. That doesn't mean he can't or won't be productive but....meh.

Blame it on KChiefs1. He's a ****ing moron.

Even if that's the case (though currently, DK isn't regarded like a Hill, Adams or Hopkins) the Chiefs will be better poised to pay him next offseason than they were to pay Hill this offseason.

They'll see a younger player (Hill seemingly slowed down a little bit last season) and they'll see a a greater Salary Cap.

And we already know the Chiefs were willing to pay out a top 3 WR contract.

So i don't buy it that they aren't pursuing this.

For the last two weeks ive been saying i believe the Chiefs will trade for a top tier WR on a rookie contract. I still firmly believe that and i'll believe that all the way till our 1st round selections are made.

This move has Chiefs written all over it.

And I honestly think DK might be a BETTER match for Mahomes than Tyreek was.

I don’t see it happening. That’s just me though.

Better match than HIll? I dunno bout that.

Bigger target, stronger target, bigger catch radius. Not as quick, but can still get down field in a hurry and he can use his big physical frame to position on some of those off schedule throws.

We've never really seen Mahomes with WR's like that. Just Kelce, really. And to a lesser degree, Watkins. But a WR that can just win a 1v1 jump ball like that? Hill was aight at it, but he's only 5-10".

They tried with fat ass Kelvin Benjamin and busted ass Josh Gordon.

Exactly. He's coming off his rookie contract, seeing what Adams and Hill just got for contracts. He's going to want something very similar. He's not going to want any short term deal, he's gonna want his payday. The Chiefs would be putting themselves right back into the position they just got out of with Hill.

How about extending him at the time of the trade?

Then you’ve killed any value you had by trading Hill.

Well yeah, that's what I meant. He's not going to want to go somewhere without knowing that team will step up for an extension. Probably the same way Hill did with Miami. He wouldn't agree without that extension guarantee. My point was if we went after DK, we're not going to get him on a short term "Prove it" contract.

We're not getting Metcalf. Just stop already.

There's every reason to believe his contract will be bigger than Hill's.

Every top WR was drafted. We've got a ton of picks. Use them smart and we'll have our own no 1 WR...

Exactly.

Nope...the obvious thing to do is completely blow any value we created with the Hill trade.

JAMESON!

I'll be happy when I never have to hear Jameson Williams or DK Metcalf and the Chiefs in the same sentence ever again.

:thumb::clap:

What if?

Lets say they pull off a trade for DK. They immediately sign him to a new contract for roughly 20 million a year with a low cap hit this year.

We are paying him top WR money for his past production but not THE top, he gets his money sooner and gets Patrick. This helps him out as well as the Chiefs.

Then if he blows up which is likely, hes already under contract for 4 years?

Win Win!

I would argue that signing any player in the NFL below their actual worth would be win-win. It's almost a question of why said player would accept a deal like that...

Answer: If Christian Kirk is getting 18mm/yr, Metcalf is getting a lot more than 20mm/yr.

There's to much DK Metcalf bullshit in this thread about Shenault, god damnt.

Fair question, possible answers...

He isnt going to get a new contract this year from the Seahawks, he could be tagged next year so still no new contract.

He has no QB in Seattle, hard to build your brand over the next two years with no QB.

He gets his money NOW instead of a maybe in the next year or two. He goes to a much better team with the BEST QB in the league.

He then gets another contract at 29 after winning a few Superbowls!

Let's just go ahead and draft the next DK instead, and pay him a rookie salary for the next 4 years.

Even if we have to trade up slightly, it still would cost less than shipping picks to Seattle.

If it were that easy, we'd already have our DK and so would everyone else.

The last time we tried that we got a hardman.

Regarding Shenault, I would be ecstatic to bring in a 23 year old wide out with considerable upside

Honestly I'd prefer to concentrate on the D this year so Pat doesn't have to score 35pts a game to win.

I'd trade up for Wyatt and have a beastly pair of DT's. Use that lower 1st to take the best DE/WR that falls. In the second do the same - best DE/WR/S that falls to us.

Grab 2 DE's, a DT, and two WR'S in the top 3 rounds. That's the D line rebuilt and if all goes well the entire offense under contract for the next 4 years...

Why trade up for Wyatt when a guy like Winfrey could potentially be had without giving away picks?

DT is a pretty good group for where we pick.

FTR I AM STILL HORNY FOR LAVISKA

In the 2nd round? It's a completely different scenario this go around.

We had Tyreek's legal issue pop up literally an hour before the draft started, with no clue how it would play out. We had to take a speedster as insurance.

We didn't have a 1st round pick. This year we have 2 1sts, 2 2nds, 2 3rds, 2 4ths. If there's a guy we think is a star, we can go get him.

Just a joke big guy. I'm sort of in the Hardman defender camp. Not because i think hes a stud, but just because im not blind to the 1000 factors that went into it at the time.

I wasn't upset, just saying it's a different situation.

Looking backwards, Hardman was probably worth a 4th round pick, and if taken at that spot, we'd all be just fine with him.

I probably wouldnt scoff at our late third. We were balls deep in a super bowl window and needed a deep ball threat.

Edit: You meant if Tyreek wasnt in trouble. Yeah a 4 would have felt right.

I'm a fan of logic and reason but I also have my crush.

That's my girl - don't bother me with talk of education or birthing hips...

Totally get that.

I absolutely can’t wait to type:

WELL I GUESS WE ARE LIVIN’ LAVISKA LOCO!!!

come on vrent breach

Soon my friend soon!

I don't care which WR we get as long as it isn't Treylon Burks