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SupDock 10-01-2022 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 16498632)
I'm not because then after that happens they get evaluated personally by a doctor. Ethical doctors don't do what Chao did. They don't get evaluated by a twitter doctor. The decision on whether they get cleared through the protocol is not done by a twitter doctor.
If there is a “no-go” sign, they cannot be cleared.

Garcia Bronco 10-01-2022 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by SupDock (Post 16498633)
If there is a “no-go” sign, they cannot be cleared.
I understand. Chao isn't the person to make that pronouncement from his couch.

SupDock 10-01-2022 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 16498637)
I understand. Chao isn't the person to make that pronouncement from his couch.
I guess there is no controversy then. We can all move along.

Garcia Bronco 10-01-2022 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by SupDock (Post 16498640)
I guess there is no controversy then. We can all move along.
Exactly.

philfree 10-01-2022 09:40 AM
Tua isn't equipped to handle the pounding an NFL QB takes. Too bad for him and Dolphin fans.

Skyy God 10-01-2022 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by crayzkirk (Post 16498489)
I've always wondered just how independent you can be when you are paid by the people you are supposed to be independent of?

The injury to Mahomes in the playoff game didn't look very severe at the time however based on what we saw, he was injured. He was wobbly and unsteady. Later, he said he was fine to go back in however the Chiefs coaching staff would not put him in. And this was in a playoff game.

The lack of concern over Tua's health is alarming to me. The coach said something to the effect later of: He's fine, it was just a concussion... WTF?

Business don't care about the employees... They are raw materials to be used up and replaced. After all, it's not really your job, it's theirs. You are just filling it for now.
There is zero actual independence when a doctor is paid by a party to examine a patient.

rabblerouser 10-01-2022 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 16497948)
Phins Doctor: Tua where are you right now?

Tua: Placencia Belize

Phins Doctor: He good
Hahahahaha YES

rabblerouser 10-01-2022 10:05 AM
So the thing I don't understand how they have an "unaffiliated" doctor on the sidelines.

Mother****er surely ain't volunteering to protect a bunch of billionaires.

Home State Health ain't covering it

Who's paying him then?

The NFL?

okay...

SupDock 10-01-2022 10:58 AM
https://youtu.be/4VV0Qb5rK8I

Interesting video from a sports medicine physician.

B_Ambuehl 10-01-2022 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 16498345)
What else would cause disorientation and stumbling like paralysis? Could a pinched nerve do that or something with the spinal cord? If it's not a concussion then it seems to me he needs some extensive testing to see what's going on.
It was very hot in that game with heat index of 100. Several players had to leave the game due to heat related illness. Rising quickly from a seated or lying position can cause temporary dizziness due to orthostatic hypotension.

SupDock 10-01-2022 12:45 PM
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...s-controversy/

NFLPA terminates the unaffiliated consultant.




<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The NFLPA’s decision to terminate the unaffiliated neurotrauma consultant involving in clearing Tua Tagovailoa came after the union’s discovery of “several mistakes” made by the doctor in its view, per source.</p>&mdash; Jonathan Jones (@jjones9) <a href="https://twitter.com/jjones9/status/1576269781681852418?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 1, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Marcellus 10-01-2022 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by SupDock (Post 16498815)
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...s-controversy/

NFLPA terminates the unaffiliated consultant.




<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The NFLPA’s decision to terminate the unaffiliated neurotrauma consultant involving in clearing Tua Tagovailoa came after the union’s discovery of “several mistakes” made by the doctor in its view, per source.</p>&mdash; Jonathan Jones (@jjones9) <a href="https://twitter.com/jjones9/status/1576269781681852418?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 1, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
So they work for the NFLPA?

Time to stop claiming they work for the NFL so it’s rigged. Dude obviously ****ed up. Not a conspiracy theory after all. Weird.

notorious 10-01-2022 01:02 PM
They found their fall guy.

It's not like a dozen people didn't know.

KChiefs1 10-01-2022 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 16498821)
They found their fall guy.

It's not like a dozen people didn't know.

Yep.

It’s over.


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SupDock 10-01-2022 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16498820)
So they work for the NFLPA?

Time to stop claiming they work for the NFL so it’s rigged. Dude obviously ****ed up. Not a conspiracy theory after all. Weird.
The contract is approved by NFL and NFLPA I believe.

I don’t think it was rigged, just that someone ****ed up.

Not sure what the Dolphins coach is supposed to do after he is told Tua can play.

Skyy God 10-01-2022 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl (Post 16498793)
It was very hot in that game with heat index of 100. Several players had to leave the game due to heat related illness. Rising quickly from a seated or lying position can cause temporary dizziness due to orthostatic hypotension.
So the head injury is utterly coincidental to the head trauma??

Ok, Baghdad Bob.

Marcellus 10-01-2022 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 16498821)
They found their fall guy.

It's not like a dozen people didn't know.
Well one guy is responsible for examining and determining the outcome.

I mean the team should have had enough sense to step in but new coach new staff etc…I think it was just a series of mistakes really.

Nothing to do with money etc….you don’t mortgage a season on a week 3 or 4 game.

Wallcrawler 10-01-2022 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by SupDock (Post 16498633)
If there is a “no-go” sign, they cannot be cleared.
I feel like this is pretty obvious. You don't have to be a "doctor" to see that Tua hit his head, got up, visibly shook his head, stumbled, and fell.

This is a no go sign that should have immediately disqualified Tua from the game, regardless of ANY findings afterward.

When Mahomes got choked out against the Browns, as soon as he wobbled and fell, he was done.

This should have taken place with Tua, and for whatever reason, it didn't.

Sassy Squatch 10-01-2022 01:18 PM
So he's all but confirmed to have had a concussion Sunday and got what we can all assume is a much worse second concussion Thursday. Really hope his life isn't significantly impacted moving forward.

Chief Pagan 10-01-2022 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 16498705)
So the thing I don't understand how they have an "unaffiliated" doctor on the sidelines.

Mother****er surely ain't volunteering to protect a bunch of billionaires.

Home State Health ain't covering it

Who's paying him then?

The NFL?

okay...
The team can't fire them for not clearing the team's player.

So they are independent of the team. But sure, somebody is still paying them, but they get paid whether they clear a player or not.

What's the alternative?


Base the clearance on tweets from doctors watching the game on TV?


:shrug:

Tribal Warfare 10-01-2022 01:23 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The unaffiliated neurotrauma consultant involved in clearing Dolphins QB Tua Tagovailoa during Sunday&#39;s game against the Bills has been fired after it was found he made &quot;several mistakes&quot; in his evaluation, according to ESPN and multiple reports.<br><br>More: <a href="https://t.co/dbLlvWGQAU">https://t.co/dbLlvWGQAU</a> <a href="https://t.co/PormVRdxpI">pic.twitter.com/PormVRdxpI</a></p>&mdash; ESPN (@espn) <a href="https://twitter.com/espn/status/1576277263770914819?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 1, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

SupDock 10-01-2022 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 16498840)
The team can't fire them for not clearing the team's player.

So they are independent of the team. But sure, somebody is still paying them, but they get paid whether they clear a player or not.

What's the alternative?


Base the clearance on tweets from doctors watching the game on TV?


:shrug:
Exactly. Good luck finding Docs to do it for free and take on the liability.

KChiefs1 10-01-2022 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16498837)
So he's all but confirmed to have had a concussion Sunday and got what we can all assume is a much worse second concussion Thursday. Really hope his life isn't significantly impacted moving forward.

Two concussions in 4 days has killed people.


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SupDock 10-01-2022 01:57 PM
The other thing I read, is that if you are in the protocol, it takes 5 steps, and each step takes a day. Sunday to Thursday is not enough time to clear the protocol, so it seems like he was not in the protocol after Thursdays game

I guess that makes since, because how can he return to the game and then enter the protocol.

It looks even worse now, though.

rabblerouser 10-01-2022 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16498820)
So they work for the NFLPA?

Time to stop claiming they work for the NFL so it’s rigged. Dude obviously ****ed up. Not a conspiracy theory after all. Weird.
You are such a butt****ing moron. 100%

rabblerouser 10-01-2022 03:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by notorious (Post 16498821)
They found their fall guy.

It's not like a dozen people didn't know.
Yeah, they're probably like "you get to keep all the money in your contract. And here's $150,000 for you to sign this NDA and you can go back to your private practice now" with a wink and a pat on the head.

rabblerouser 10-01-2022 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 16498840)
The team can't fire them for not clearing the team's player.

So they are independent of the team. But sure, somebody is still paying them, but they get paid whether they clear a player or not.

What's the alternative?


Base the clearance on tweets from doctors watching the game on TV?


:shrug:
But he's NOT "unaffiliated".

There is no such thing. The NFLPA who pays these doctors ARE the affiliation. And don't think the NFLPA isn't just a dog and pony show to keep the thing looking like it's on the up and up.

Marcellus 10-01-2022 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 16499071)
You are such a butt****ing moron. 100%
I would go with conspiracy! That’s usually the intelligent route.

The doc just got fired by the NFLPA if that doesn’t tell you something don’t call other people stupid.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-01-2022 03:53 PM
What about the Dolphin coaching staff? Any idiot could see the kid wasn't right

MagicHef 10-01-2022 04:25 PM
So apparently gross motor instability does not require entry into the concussion protocol if the team/independent doctors determine that the instability was orthopedic.

Convenient.

rabblerouser 10-01-2022 05:19 PM
No one wants to talk about the UNFLAGGED belly-to-back suplex that CAUSED this injury?

I mean, we could legitimately be talking about "Will Travis Kelce ever play again" after Derwin James did the same shit without getting a flag. And just like Tua, Kelce was the ballcarrier, so it's not like "they missed it", because if you're not watching the ballcarrier, WTF are you looking at? How'd you blow the play dead?

**** the NFL. **** them in their stupid ****ing asses.

They truly are clown shoes.

rabblerouser 10-01-2022 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16499150)
I would go with conspiracy! That’s usually the intelligent route.

The doc just got fired by the NFLPA if that doesn’t tell you something don’t call other people stupid.
Then quit trolling me around the board and being stupid about it.

Dude, the doctor is a fall guy.

The NFL wants no blowback from this.

So how convenient.

Rainbarrel 10-01-2022 05:22 PM
NBC nightly news said brain stem injury. If even remotely true he needs an injury settlement of a full contract payout. Banned for life, too risky

rabblerouser 10-01-2022 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 16499157)
What about the Dolphin coaching staff? Any idiot could see the kid wasn't right
The NFL wanted Tua on the field to beat Buffalo and take the field for "Tua vs Burrow - The Pro Years" for high ratings because Amazon and money.

Doesn't matter that Bridgewater may be the better QB for the team.

They wanted Tua in the rematch with Burrow.

And they got it.

I guess.

rabblerouser 10-01-2022 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Rainbarrel (Post 16499429)
NBC nightly news said brain stem injury. If even remotely true he needs an injury settlement of a full contract payout. Banned for life, too risky
He'll get paid.

rabblerouser 10-01-2022 05:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 16499260)
So apparently gross motor instability does not require entry into the concussion protocol if the team/independent doctors determine that the instability was orthopedic.

Convenient.
Extremely.

"Oh there's no conspiracy, nothing to see here DERP DERP" - Marcellus the Dumbshit

Red Dawg 10-01-2022 05:31 PM
They ****ed up. It's obvious he had a concussion last Sunday. He looked like a boxer about to go down. They know they either goofed or have been caught.

Marcellus 10-01-2022 05:38 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NFLPA and NFL soon are expected to agree to new protocols in which any time any player demonstrates any instability, he is not allowed to return to the game. The rule could go into effect as early as week 5.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1576353703216676864?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 1, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Pasta Little Brioni 10-01-2022 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 16499425)
No one wants to talk about the UNFLAGGED belly-to-back suplex that CAUSED this injury?

I mean, we could legitimately be talking about "Will Travis Kelce ever play again" after Derwin James did the same shit without getting a flag. And just like Tua, Kelce was the ballcarrier, so it's not like "they missed it", because if you're not watching the ballcarrier, WTF are you looking at? How'd you blow the play dead?

**** the NFL. **** them in their stupid ****ing asses.

They truly are clown shoes.
But mean words draw a flag...pathetic

rabblerouser 10-01-2022 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 16499452)
But mean words draw a flag...pathetic
Exactly. ****ing. Clown. Shoes.

FloridaMan88 10-01-2022 06:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16499447)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NFLPA and NFL soon are expected to agree to new protocols in which any time any player demonstrates any instability, he is not allowed to return to the game. The rule could go into effect as early as week 5.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1576353703216676864?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 1, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
So if a player is dehydrated during a hot game and gets dizzy he’s out for the game… even if it isn’t concussion-related.

rabblerouser 10-01-2022 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16499502)
So if a player is dehydrated during a hot game and gets dizzy he’s out for the game… even if it isn’t concussion-related.
Hell yeah!

Imagine all the scenarios...

The NFL approves.

SupDock 10-01-2022 08:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 16499507)
Hell yeah!

Imagine all the scenarios...

The NFL approves.
I believe that an impact to the head is requisite to enter the concussion, Gameday checklist

GloryDayz 10-01-2022 08:09 PM
Every hockey player in the history of skates laughs at Tua...

rabblerouser 10-01-2022 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by SupDock (Post 16499707)
I believe that an impact to the head is requisite to enter the concussion, Gameday checklist
But the new protocol will simply be "any instability". A WR who runs a dig all the way across the field in hot weather could get winded and get those "flashers" and appear to "have an instability" and BOOM, the team's best receiver is gone.

As mentioned, dehydration could be another.

It's such a phantom thing, like holding, they could conceivably call it at any time.

The announcers would be all "well, we don't see it" but it doesn't matter, because "protocol, player safety" when the reality is that we've seen some pretty egregious noncalls on severe plays, one involving our own HoF TE and other probably ending the career of Tua. Bother egregious...both seen by the officals...neither one flagged.


THAT is an issue.

Baby Lee 10-01-2022 08:41 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Speaking with <a href="https://twitter.com/judybattista?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@judybattista</a> on <a href="https://twitter.com/nflnetwork?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@nflnetwork</a>, NFL Chief Medical Officer Dr. Allen Sills says Tua Tagovailoa was checked for concussion symptoms every day since Sunday. Points out independent neuro expert had to clear him. Once review is done, full results will be released publicly.</p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1575896647254609921?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 30, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

SupDock 10-01-2022 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 16499759)
But the new protocol will simply be "any instability". A WR who runs a dig all the way across the field in hot weather could get winded and get those "flashers" and appear to "have an instability" and BOOM, the team's best receiver is gone.

As mentioned, dehydration could be another.

It's such a phantom thing, like holding, they could conceivably call it at any time.

The announcers would be all "well, we don't see it" but it doesn't matter, because "protocol, player safety" when the reality is that we've seen some pretty egregious noncalls on severe plays, one involving our own HoF TE and other probably ending the career of Tua. Bother egregious...both seen by the officals...neither one flagged.


THAT is an issue.
Right. The protocol will include instability as a no go symptom. The protocol only starts after an impact to the head.

https://static.www.nfl.com/image/pri...j0va7fuium.png

rabblerouser 10-01-2022 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by SupDock (Post 16499865)
Right. The protocol will include instability as a no go symptom. The protocol only starts after an impact to the head.

https://static.www.nfl.com/image/pri...j0va7fuium.png
Is this the current one or the new one that comes week 5?

smithandrew051 10-01-2022 09:09 PM
This sure feels like the League found a fall guy.

srvy 10-01-2022 09:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 16499759)
But the new protocol will simply be "any instability". A WR who runs a dig all the way across the field in hot weather could get winded and get those "flashers" and appear to "have an instability" and BOOM, the team's best receiver is gone.

As mentioned, dehydration could be another.

It's such a phantom thing, like holding, they could conceivably call it at any time.

The announcers would be all "well, we don't see it" but it doesn't matter, because "protocol, player safety" when the reality is that we've seen some pretty egregious noncalls on severe plays, one involving our own HoF TE and other probably ending the career of Tua. Bother egregious...both seen by the officals...neither one flagged.


THAT is an issue.
Chiefs will get ****ed by this rule somehow some way guaranteed.

SupDock 10-01-2022 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 16499921)
Is this the current one or the new one that comes week 5?
It’s the current one, but instability is getting added to the “no go” section on the right I believe. It’s already there, but there is an asterisk describing that it needs to be determined to be from neurological causes.

In the Tua case, they said it was from a “back injury”.

These exceptions are going away it seems.

It still needs to start with an impact to the head.

crayzkirk 10-01-2022 09:29 PM
It's pretty well known that the current Dolphins coaching staff doesn't want Tua. Now that he has had two concussions within five days, the recovery time is months instead of weeks and perhaps never with a brain stem injury.

Seems very convenient... We trust experts to give us additional information, that doesn't mean we blindly trust them when we see something that appears to conflict with that information.

Rainbarrel 10-02-2022 06:46 AM
Concussion challenges by opposing teams could be like lightning delays

GloryDayz 10-02-2022 07:48 AM
Give them a standing-eight-count and if the player wants to play, let them play. If the coach wants to pull them because he's confident that the backup will provide a better chance to win, or is concerned for the possible longer term loss of a player, then the coach can pull them.

penguinz 10-02-2022 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by crayzkirk (Post 16499956)
It's pretty well known that the current Dolphins coaching staff doesn't want Tua. Now that he has had two concussions within five days, the recovery time is months instead of weeks and perhaps never with a brain stem injury.

Seems very convenient... We trust experts to give us additional information, that doesn't mean we blindly trust them when we see something that appears to conflict with that information.
So you think they tried to kill him instead of just cutting him. :shake:

rabblerouser 10-02-2022 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 16500286)
So you think they tried to kill him instead of just cutting him. :shake:
They say that the NFL is a ruthless buisness :shrug:

ROFL
LMAO

Garcia Bronco 10-02-2022 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 16500286)
So you think they tried to kill him instead of just cutting him. :shake:
You know this exact story happened on Days of Our Lives.

rabblerouser 10-02-2022 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 16500345)
You know this exact story happened on Days of Our Lives.
Been telling y'all "the NFL is scripted", and Jason Whitlock says that "players and coches are characters", and...well, characters DO get written out. :shrug:


ROFL
LMAO

crayzkirk 10-02-2022 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 16500286)
So you think they tried to kill him instead of just cutting him. :shake:
I wouldn't say tried to kill him; it seems that they really didn't think about the person over the player. The coach stumbling over the words and making statements that he would never put a player in danger before he was even asked rings hollow to me. Why go into CYA mode immediately?

Actions always speak louder than words...

rabblerouser 10-02-2022 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by crayzkirk (Post 16500427)
I wouldn't say tried to kill him; it seems that they really didn't think about the person over the player. The coach stumbling over the words and making statements that he would never put a player in danger before he was even asked rings hollow to me. Why go into CYA mode immediately?

Actions always speak louder than words...
The Dolphins' agenda is the NFL's agenda.

What QB gives the Dolphins the best chance to win?

Based on Thursday, it looks to be Bridgewater. The Dolphins looked more efficient AND Bridgewater has a better arm.

Who sells more tickets/jerseys, but most importantly, who is the better CHARACTER that will generate more casual viewers?

It's Tua.

And that's why he was rushed back so quickly. Had nothing to do with the Dolphins trying to win games.

FloridaMan88 10-02-2022 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by crayzkirk (Post 16499956)
It's pretty well known that the current Dolphins coaching staff doesn't want Tua. Now that he has had two concussions within five days, the recovery time is months instead of weeks and perhaps never with a brain stem injury.

Seems very convenient... We trust experts to give us additional information, that doesn't mean we blindly trust them when we see something that appears to conflict with that information.
Flores didn’t want Tua, but McDaniel doesn’t want Tua?

BWillie 10-02-2022 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 16499260)
So apparently gross motor instability does not require entry into the concussion protocol if the team/independent doctors determine that the instability was orthopedic.

Convenient.
It's not really convenient at all. If a guy hurts his ankle, knee or hip and is stumbling. All issues meant to not be immediately disqualified from a game. This just happened to be a grey area. It doesn't mean it was a conspiracy. It doesn't mean the NFL sucks or the Dolphins tried to do any time wrong. Sometimes shit ****ing happens.

BryanBusby 10-03-2022 12:04 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Somebody said NFL concussion protocol woulda let JFK back in the parade ����������</p>&mdash; kb (@karinasophia12) <a href="https://twitter.com/karinasophia12/status/1576619852613066752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 2, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

htismaqe 10-03-2022 06:06 PM
So this is interesting.

Bucs coach said Cam Brate came to the sideline complaining about his shoulder after being hit in the head. They routed him to the team docs, NOT the independent neurologist. Why? Because “you can’t see the neurologist if you didn’t hurt your head”.

In this case, he played more snaps before somebody finally realized maybe he should be examined, which happened at halftime. He never came back in the game.

htismaqe 10-03-2022 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16500508)
It's not really convenient at all. If a guy hurts his ankle, knee or hip and is stumbling. All issues meant to not be immediately disqualified from a game. This just happened to be a grey area. It doesn't mean it was a conspiracy. It doesn't mean the NFL sucks or the Dolphins tried to do any time wrong. Sometimes shit ****ing happens.
If you go to the doctor and deliberately or inadvertently misrepresent your symptoms and the doctor knows you did it, then the doctor has a duty to do what’s best for you not just do what you tell him to do.

rabblerouser 10-03-2022 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 16504759)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Somebody said NFL concussion protocol woulda let JFK back in the parade ����������</p>&mdash; kb (@karinasophia12) <a href="https://twitter.com/karinasophia12/status/1576619852613066752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 2, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Hold on, JFK actually had a well-known history of back problems stemming from that PT109 shit.

Mighta been his back...and to the left...


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