If Josh Allen is even in the same galaxy as Mahomes he shouldn’t lose games with that many weapons and that good of a defense to teams like the Jets.

I learn a lot by being active on this forum. Lots of smart football fans on here and i’ve learned a lot from the posters here.

Lol

Wow the Jets only blitzed two times the entire game and still pressured Allen a ton. Their DL is for real.

Jets d is for real

Saleh is a very good DC and Jets have piled up some good defensive talent as well.

Sounds good bro. Looking forward to it.

ROFL

Guessing you're a big Jim Kelly fan. He was great at those.

As good as the Jets D was today, their O should get a great deal of credit.

That last drive was 13 plays. From their own 4. The first 8 plays were all runs and the Jets never even thought of allowing that QB to pass. Those runs resulted in 76 yards before a pass to Mimms was attempted and completed at the 2:08 mark.

To me, that shows that Buffalo really did build this team to beat the Chiefs. Of course the year before when the Browns came to town in the playoffs and lost a close game, they too built their team to beat the Chiefs in the playoffs.


But the division bit them on the ass.

I agree with this. He's great now but the toll on his body taking unnecessary hits is gonna make him fall off the cliff with the same speed as Cam.

The Bills are finding out what it's like to be every team's Super Bowl.

I think this is actually true.

Start of every game is a quote from an opponent player or coach or whatever talking about how this is a measuring stick game, blah blah blah.

Maybe we shouldn't crown their asses just yet. That division is awful tight right now and they are 0-2 in division games.

Buffalo is so bad against the run...

Yeah i hope the Patriots beat them at least once. **** the Bills,this is a Chiefs board. :evil:

I don't feel that's the case at all.

That team felt they'd waltz to the division title and 1 seed. especially after winning in Arrowhead. They still might. But that's not an easy task.

And yet the Chiefs struggled to run on them.

If only KC still had Kareem, maybe they would have won the last game...







:bolt:

Potentially. He needs to learn not to take the big hits.

There is an enormous difference in arm talent and processing ability between Allen and Newton though, heavily in favor of Allen.

I think as Allen gets older he'll be less inclined to subject himself to hits and take better care of himself.

Wow. What a scared ass pussy little ****ing bitch thing to say.

When you can pressure with just 4 even the best QBs struggle.

Josh Allen is a really good QB who is also an exceptional runner. I agree there will come atime where he no longer has that running style as a crutch. In an offense that relies almost exclusively on an aggressive passing game. But he will revert back to becoming a really good passer.

Cam newton was a really good runner who used his running to open up the passing game. Very big difference.

Cant knock on the guy. Now, do I believe mahomes is way better set to pass well even as his athleticism slips? Hell yeah. But I don't really have bad words for Allen. He's a hell of a QB but our guy just happens to be better.

The more fascinating examples are big Ben. Similar bowling ball style but couldn't evolve into a pocket passer. But Allen has thrived in way more structure than big Ben.

Or Russell Wilson who I don't know that many saw how bad he gets without his legs. But Allen is a way better leader than Russell.

I suspect what will happen is he moves toward the mean. Very soon the teams payroll will explode and he'll have to do this all on his own. And eventually his athleticism will slip. Maybe the best comparison is late career Aaron Rodgers.

The Jets will eventually be the Niners of the AFC meaning they will have one heck of defense with offensive weapons BUT no QB to utilize those weapons to take them to the top. Wilson was fortunate their running game was working today because of a beat up Bills defense. But like I said in another thread, Wilson ain't gonna take you anywhere for now.

"Cam" Allen is coming to fruition....uh oh. Injury 1 today.

Bills fans have been holding out hope for years that Mahomes wasn’t going to be nearly as good without Hill. They were way wrong clearly. They don’t seem to recognize though that Allen is much more risk at crashing without Diggs.

What a dumbass

Uhh, that "injury" had literally nothing to do with him as a runner.

It's fair to wonder, especially watching Aaron Rodgers struggle without Adams & MVS.

The biggest question for Mahomes is going to be when he loses Kelce & Andy Reid. We shall see how it goes at that point. Kelce is the main guy he trusts on 3rd down, even when Tyreek was part of the team. And who knows whether the next coach will do a very good job with the offensive schemes & playcalling.

That shit will add up with unnecessary hits during designed QB run plays

That girl in your avatar looks much hotter than the last few ones you were using.

Allen got hurt in the pocket. Throwing the ball.

Probably would have been safer running.

Mahomes had a bad game...still passed for 446 yds, a passing TD, 63 rushing yds, a rushing TD, 509 all purpose yds...and a win. Allen who???

Watching Allen the last few weeks, it's possible he's just going through a funk. But I've also had the lingering thought that Allen just MIGHT have been more dependent on the regular tutelage of Brian Daboll than I have believed to this point (it PAINS me to give Daboll any credit, because I'm still biased against him by how terrible he was with the Chiefs).

If Daboll really was the "Josh Allen whisperer" - as had been written about many times - it is possible that he could regress to the mean for his larger career on a regular basis going forward. Again...don't want to give Daboll that much credit, but we will see how he plays the rest of the season as Daboll's influence gets further into the rear-view.

He’s still having a great season. Dorsey is a good playcaller & QB coach. I’m sure they will get back into a better groove as the season goes along. It seems like defenses in general are having more success this year than recent history. Only 4 quarterbacks are above 65/100 this year in QBR.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr/_/seasontype/2

Allen is going to be just fine.

Long season, there are lulls.

But the easiest part of their schedule is over. They still have the pats twice, the vikings, the fins (who they already lost to), the jets (who they already lost to), and the bengals.

None of these are easy wins down the stretch. The AFC east is the best division in football. It's what the AFC west was supposed to be going into this season

That all might be true. We will see. Like I said...I hate the idea of giving Daboll any credit that he's anything but a fat tub of goo.

Exactly

Doesn't matter. Those extra hits he's taking every game are adding up.

Mahomes had a funk last year as well. It happens to every QB at some point. I do think designed runs are going to shorten his career some.

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm




I'm hearing troubling things about Josh Allen right now and my source is a Buffalo sports reporter.



Like, better hope his results are negative because it doesn't look great and if his test shows what they fear, which is a torn UCL



He's out 18 months.

Well he grabbed his arm and then had nothing on his throws afterwards...

Ouch

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bills?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bills</a> QB Josh Allen, who has a history of UCL sprain in 2018, appeared to suffer another UCL sprain on this play very late in the game. Threw a nice deep ball right after, but was shaking out the elbow/may have been dealing w some nerve stretch symptoms. Injury to watch this wk. <a href="https://t.co/61nLQO1cw1">pic.twitter.com/61nLQO1cw1</a></p>&mdash; DocFlynn (@DocFlynnNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/DocFlynnNFL/status/1589371841596227584?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 6, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

:popcorn:

Before anyone says BS some other Buffalo sports people are starting to catch the rumors



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">He&#39;s getting it looked at. There&#39;s a UCL fear.</p>&mdash; Benjamin Allbright (@AllbrightNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AllbrightNFL/status/1589700354232692737?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 7, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hey Moody why isn’t anyone in the fantasy community talking about this potential Josh Allen injury? He downplayed it but that could be a UCL strain <a href="https://t.co/jwWEv9pxxl">pic.twitter.com/jwWEv9pxxl</a></p>&mdash; James (@HOFMayne) <a href="https://twitter.com/HOFMayne/status/1589591871130832896?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 7, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He actually rifled a howitzer 70 yards after



but then grabbed his arm in pain again.

Holy crap, that would be catastrophic for the Bills post season hopes. And honestly, I'd be a little letdown. Allen was having himself an epic season, and i wanted the chance for KC to defeat a Josh-led BUF team in the playoffs.

I'd be surprised if he missed any time.

He literally got a running start and put his entire body into it, he never throws like that.

Here's the breakdown by Profootball Doc. Unfortunately NFL makes you watch it on Youtube.

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He missed 4 games in 2018 with a UCL sprain.

They way he moves his hand is kind of a tell, I injured my ulnar nerve and it literally made it where I couldn't feel my hand for several months.

Injuries are always surprising unless you're saying "I'd be surprised if kiimo knew anything" which I know I'm nobody but this is coming from a legit source.

So what, they think it's like a legit tear?

I don't want to share the screengrab so here's how the conversation went.


MY BUDDY: Allen is out long term, isn't he?

BUFFALO SPORTS REPORTER HE'S FRIENDS WITH: Looks like it.

MY BUDDY: *sad face emoji

MY BUDDY: Like, season?

BUFFALO SPORTS REPORTER HE'S FRIENDS WITH: If it's the UCL tear not only season, but it's about an 18 month injury.

MY BUDDY: So are we just waiting on test results or is it actually confirmed?

BUFFALO SPORTS REPORTER HE'S FRIENDS WITH: Yup

MY BUDDY: So you're telling me there's a chance?

BUFFALO SPORTS REPORTER HE'S FRIENDS WITH: There is currently a chance, yes.

Are they talking tommy John surgery?

Imma go with, "Shit meets wall".

That would be devastating to the Bills. I hope its not true.

If his UCL is torn, yeah, he'll have to have Tommy John's surgery I would imagine.

I'm torn on it. On one hand, you never wanna see your top opponent go down like that. Especially a guy like Allen who's pretty dang likeable....


BUUUUT....how am i not suppose to be happy about 1 less obstacle on our path to glory?

The Dolphins as AFC representative is already gaining steam in the media. If Allen goes down, all we're going to hear is about how the Fins are the best team in the NFL.

I know it benefits us. But I'd rather not have Josh Allen get hurt.


It's kind of like the basketball tournament, it's better to beat the best teams.

But if you're given an easier path, you take it. Hardware doesn't change based on the circumstances.

I've been thinking about them since week 2.

They're kind of the elephant in the room right now. But every week i've been pondering what that Dolphins/Chiefs matchup would look like in the playoffs.

Shit meets wall


unless


Shit hits fan

I know that would make things a lot easier for my favorite team but that would really suck for the nfl.

Yeah, it's not how i'd ASK to win. It's nothing i'd hope for. But i mean, damn. If you're a Chiefs fan idk how you wouldn't sleep easier headed into the playoffs.

I’m not sure if this guy is legit or not.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Buffalo <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bills?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bills</a> QB Josh Allen appeared to suffer an injury to his throwing elbow in their Week 9 loss to the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Jets?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Jets</a>. <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballDoc?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ProFootballDoc</a> gives his instant analysis 👇👇👇<br><br>Full video⏩ <a href="https://t.co/D7qgxn7Flw">https://t.co/D7qgxn7Flw</a> <a href="https://t.co/0oMZzZvu1t">pic.twitter.com/0oMZzZvu1t</a></p>&mdash; Sports Injury Central (@SICscore) <a href="https://twitter.com/SICscore/status/1589372351325478912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 6, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Then the Bills will shit their pants.

It would have to be a pretty severe tear for them to need to actually do Tommy John on him. You can play with varying degrees of fraying of the UCL.

But lord, if they do?

You're looking at, best-case, a 9-month recovery period. So out all of this season, and most of the offseason period for the 2023 year. 14-15 months is usually a more realistic recovery time to full ability.

That would be awfully devastating for a team that pushed in all its chips for 2022 and 2023.

Yeah bullshit. No one ever remembers how you won the super bowl. Just that you did. So whatever makes that path easier is better.

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Nobody would give a single **** if it were us, so **** em :shrug:

Do the Redskins or Giants or Cowboys not count their SB victories that happened because LT destroyed Montana's elbow?

McDermott was definitely pretty weird talking about it. Said they're gonna see in the next 24 hours.

Really? Then why do we go over and over all the cheating that the Pats have committed over two decades to win 6 SBs? Weird, right?

Whatever.

i just don't like it when great players get hurt, and I don't care which team they're on. Allen was having a great year, an MVP type of year, and it would be great for football in general if he kept it up for the season.

Also, Mahomes needs an archnemesis to augment his preeminence as his career unfolds, just as Tom Brady had Payton Manning. Josh Allen appears to be that dude. Personally, I want to see those matchups, over and over again, because those will be the best opportunities for Pat to increase, supplement, intensify, and even exacerbate Patrick Mahomes' legendary status and legacy.

So bring it on with your bad self, Josh Allen. Help make Pat the greatest GOAT!!!

Either way, I just find it hard to buy the rumors, because it would be so good for us and our chances this year that it's too good to be true.

Yeah, I don’t believe it either, he will be fine. And even if it was true the league will just pivot to the Dolphins. It won’t change anything.

I don't know if Allens that guy, I doubt he has the longevity with his style.

Gave a weasel answer, but someone with Buffalo leaked a pretty optimistic viewpoint to Ian Rapoport. Seems like they don't believe it's that serious. I doubt he misses more than a couple games.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bills?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bills</a> QB Josh Allen is likely to be limited this week because of an elbow injury suffered late in Sunday’s loss but as of now it’s considered a situation to monitor rather than an ailment that would keep him out of the game, sources say. He’s still undergoing tests to be sure.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1589704644447477761?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 7, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>